Topic: Changes To Plastic Recycling

[Justin Tomlinson]

So what does everyone think to the changes to the plastic collections, where additional items are now collected.

[Muggins]

Brilliant - except I seem to spend all my time serving my recycling bins.  It's not clear though, whether or not we can put the plastic packaging in the same bag as the plastic bottles etc.

I have a small wheelie bin and only one small bag of landfill in it this week.

Don't know how people with flats/no gardens/outhouses manage for space.

[Justin Tomlinson]

Brilliant - except I seem to spend all my time serving my recycling bins.  It's not clear though, whether or not we can put the plastic packaging in the same bag as the plastic bottles etc.

Same here - I will check and put the answer on here 

[kecl]

Brilliant - except I seem to spend all my time serving my recycling bins.  It's not clear though, whether or not we can put the plastic packaging in the same bag as the plastic bottles etc.

Well last week I put out a single mixed bag of bottles and plastic packaging and they took it away.

[Mart]

Would that be the leaflet I recycled a few weeks ago?

Wish I had seen the recycling boom coming, sort of the Microsoft of the noughties ain't it.

S'pect one day someone will STOP MAKING THE EFFING STUFF.

Apparently Wales is about to ban free plastic bags, you can have them for between 5p and 15p. Everyone in the Principality is thrilled, excited and delighted by the initiative. That'll be that consultation thingumajig again. Must be true, the Enviromental Minister for Wales said it.

How the hell did we end up with an Environmental Minister for Wales?

I am doubting the sincerity of some of these initiatives if I am honest.

Pshaw!

[Justin Tomlinson]

S'pect one day someone will STOP MAKING THE EFFING STUFF.

100% with you. 

Whether we 'landfill' or 'recycle' it costs us the Council Tax payer a lot of money.  Why can't the Government make the manufacturers cut the amount of packaging etc?

[Muggins]

Oh Mart, the whole point of recycling is to make people aware of the waste they produce, so the best outcome is that they will stop making the effing stuff - especially plastic wrapping.

Anyway, if they don't soon stop making it, I will need a lot of support in my old age, because even now I have a job to to get to the food/padlocks/paintbrushes/soap, well just about anything wrapped/welded in to the effing stuff. Have already warned the kids they will be getting regular calls.

Justin, as usual it won't be governments or councillors who bring about this revolution, it will be the volunteer campaigners or at least through them - I think Marts ready to give it go!

[Justin Tomlinson]

Justin, as usual it won't be governments or councillors who bring about this revolution, it will be the volunteer campaigners or at least through them - I think Marts ready to give it go!

I do though think the Government (of any colour) can and should do more to cut packaging.  We (the consumer) often have no choice but to either fill our recycling box or wheelie bin, both of which cost us (Council Tax payers) to process / dispose of.

[Muggins]

And volunteer campaigners will keep on to them until they do.  Jaded and fed up thought they are with the fight.

[easyracer]

So what does everyone think to the changes to the plastic collections, where additional items are now collected.

I think it is still very confusing!

Why does Swindon Council think it is necessary to completely ignore these perfectly reasonable plastic identification symbols, and just give us vague descriptions of what can or cannot be recycled.
Surely these descriptive-based instructions are open to too much interpretation, which will lead to a lot of the recycled plastic being contaminated with who knows what.
For example, at their Plastic Bottle Banks, does a Black Polypropylene Bottle count as a recyclable item or not, when compared with the kerbside collection, which clearly states it isn't?
I mean, I have noticed people recycling other things, that clearly aren't plastic bottles into the plastic bottles collection points anyway, so they hardly need anymore of an excuse for getting it totally wrong.

Another brilliant example is the description "Plastic Film". Does that include Cling Film, Acetate, Celluloid and Carrier Bags?!

I'm sure if everybody used the Plastic Recycling symbols a lot of this would be cleared up! (Pun intended!)

[Muggins]

The way I read it, you bung everything in except black plastic and those terra-what- sits longlife containers you get fruit juice and milk in.

Don't ask us to read instruction on sides of packets for goodness sake, I'm changing from reading to distance glasses every five minutes as it is.

Can't be doign with idiots who put things (or taking things out of) in recycling bins that are obviously not supposed to be in them

[Mart]

C-4 is made up of explosives, plastic binder, plasticizer and, usually, marker or taggant chemicals such as 2,3-dimethyl-2,3-dinitrobutane (DMDNB) to help detect the explosive and identify its source.
As with many plastic explosives, the explosive in C-4 is RDX (cyclonite or cyclotrimethylene trinitramine), which makes up around 91% of C-4 by weight. The plasticizer is diethylhexyl or dioctyl sebacate (5.3%) and the binder is usually polyisobutylene (2.1%).
Another plasticizer used is dioctyl adipate (DOA). A small amount of SAE 10 non-detergent motor oil (1.6%) is also added.
C-4 is manufactured by combining the noted ingredients with binder dissolved in a solvent. The solvent is then evaporated and the mixture dried and filtered. The final material is an off-white solid with a feel similar to modelling clay. It has a faint bituminous odor and an astringent taste.

So, can I put cyclotrimethylene trinitramine in my recyling bin or not?

C-4 detonates with a pressure wave of about 8,040 m/s (26,400 ft/s), or 28,900 km/h (18,000 mph).

Which reminds me, must get the sprouts on for Christmas.

[Muggins]

Words defeat me - if you are that clever at chemistry you should know the answer to that.   

It's a lemon!

[Geoff Reid]

Hahahah - re: C4
 

..... It has a faint bituminous odor and an astringent taste.[/b][/i]

Reminds me of a Yamaha owners manual I once read in which Mr Yamaha had thought it necessary warn owners sternly: 'Do not drink the battery acid' .


(I should point out that Mr Yamaha didn't include the in the manual....that was my doing)

[Justin Tomlinson]

This issue was covered at Scrutiny last night and apparently there has been a significant jump in the volume of plastic being recycled which is great 

[Chav]

You put ya clover tub in
Take ya curry tub out
Take the lids of ya bottles
And rinse the milk ones out!

Thats what its all about !

Oh this is how to recycle
oh this is how to recycle

in out
in out
sorting it about !

[Justin Tomlinson]

The way I read it, you bung everything in except black plastic and those terra-what- sits longlife containers you get fruit juice and milk in.

That's my understanding too - though you can take the longlife containers to the special collection banks, I know there is one at the Haydon Centre.

[easyracer]

This issue was covered at Scrutiny last night and apparently there has been a significant jump in the volume of plastic being recycled which is great 

Can I ask, how all this plastic gets recycled, and into what?
It's all very well saying we recycle everything, but if you are making unwanted plastic widgets from it, that nobody needs, it is hardly a good thing?!
Or if all this recycling goes half way round the world to be recycled in some grotty factory, with scant regard for the welfare of it's employees, how is that great?
As they say, the devil is in the detail. Something we seldom hear.

[Mart]

Recycled into recycling bins and wheelie bins.

And them little toys in Kinder Eggs.

And, of course the explosive C-4 which is RDX (cyclonite or cyclotrimethylene trinitramine) makimg up around 91% of C-4 by weight. The plasticizer is diethylhexyl or dioctyl sebacate (5.3%) and the binder is usually polyisobutylene (2.1%).

Handy for clearing tree roots and civilizing backward nations.

[Muggins]

Does it work on Japanese Knotweed and them who do the ASB?