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=> Communities, Culture & Heritage => Topic started by: swindoncentric on November 04, 2015, 04:19:19 PM

Title: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: swindoncentric on November 04, 2015, 04:19:19 PM
Will the commercial options for Lydiard Park and House see the public lose free access to the parkland? The councillors seem to be saying no, but if someone offers them loadsa money, well... what do you think?  :wink:

http://swindoncentric.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/conservatives-to-sell-swindons-soul-all.html (http://swindoncentric.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/conservatives-to-sell-swindons-soul-all.html)
Title: Re: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: Terry Reynolds on November 04, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
wont the same apply to coate water if it goes for lease......
Title: Re: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: Phil Chitty on November 06, 2015, 10:33:01 AM
Would he?

Look at the detail of the listing - for both the house and grounds.

"From 1942 the park was used as a military hospital by the American Forces, and subsequently, at the end of the Second World War, as a prisoner of war camp. In 1943 the House and park were bought by the Corporation of Swindon, with a view to establishing a university. "

Allowing charging for access, or carparking should be resisted at all costs. I personally don't see a problem with leasing the land to an operator, whos aims to gain a return by improving the attraction.
Title: Re: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: Muggins on November 06, 2015, 02:50:13 PM
So long as the park and woodland is maintained, after all bloody millions of lottery and other funding  has gone into it over the last 20 years or so, the promise being that it stays that way and with open access.

I remember the Community Forest display inside  the CafĂ© area with a wooden five bar gate, when we couldn't get  sweet FA for anything over this neck of the woods - pardon the pun. 

The best outcome would be a trust set up by locals and managed as not for profit. If this doesn't happen, any sort of public ownership will continue to be eroded until, eventually it's built on.
Title: Re: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: the gorgon on November 06, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Would he?

Look at the detail of the listing - for both the house and grounds.

"From 1942 the park was used as a military hospital by the American Forces, and subsequently, at the end of the Second World War, as a prisoner of war camp. In 1943 the House and park were bought by the Corporation of Swindon, with a view to establishing a university. "

Allowing charging for access, or carparking should be resisted at all costs. I personally don't see a problem with leasing the land to an operator, whos aims to gain a return by improving the attraction.

More likely he's turning in his grave seeing that 70 years on we still don't have a university!  In fact we have the dubious honour of being the largest town in the UK without its own university. Remember DMJ wasn't a man who preserved everything in aspic.

If that's what the land was originally bought for then I for one would have no issue with it becoming the site of a university.
Title: Re: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: Muggins on November 07, 2015, 06:10:46 PM
Blimey, just how many bits of land was bought or being kept for this University thing?  If it was supposed to be at Lydiard, then Groundwell, (Oh, yes it was!) and Coate. 

They'll say we have a university of sorts, with Oxford Brookes being down in Ferndale etc. etc.

PS Groundwell has gone - all housing!
Title: Re: David Murray John will be turning in his grave!
Post by: zoso on November 08, 2015, 11:41:02 AM
Would DMJ actually be turning his grave though? Wasn't he the short-sighted Futurism-obsessed moron who was at least party responsible for turning Swindon into the Brutalist nightmare we know today?