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Coffee Talk & What's On => Rm 101. Misc. Odds and Ends => Topic started by: Terry Reynolds on April 25, 2014, 06:33:16 PM

Title: elections...
Post by: Terry Reynolds on April 25, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
All those who are allotment tenants and have seen their rent go up from £7.50, to £48 per year, should remember this when you go to vote in May.... :WTF:
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Mart on April 25, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
UKIP all day long.

The reasons some think I shouldn't are the reasons I think I should.

As I told Justin just the other day ......
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 25, 2014, 07:15:50 PM
UKIP all day long.

The reasons some think I shouldn't are the reasons I think I should.

As I told Justin just the other day ......

How did the election machine take it Mart?
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Tea Boy on April 25, 2014, 10:02:48 PM
UKIP all day long.

The reasons some think I shouldn't are the reasons I think I should.

As I told Justin just the other day ......

How did the election machine take it Mart?

Smiling from ear to ear I expect
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 25, 2014, 11:53:49 PM
Received Garry Perkins leaflet today.

No mention of Wi-Fi amongst his past achievements. If the project was as successful as Rod Bluh suggests, I am surprised that he didn't mention it.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Outoftowner on April 26, 2014, 12:17:08 AM
Perhaps Garry is much too modest to brag about his part in such a successful project, that has brought so much wealth to the Borough, as Wi-Fi?
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Muggins on April 26, 2014, 08:03:48 AM
I have Harriet Maltby's leaflet here, standing in Penhill and Upper Stratton, she's played clever one inasmuch as she put it through early, so people - but not many - are asking why haven't they seen the other party leaflets.

IT's A3 and glossy.  There are 12 sort of promises on the inside one of which, if she gets in, she will find she will get to know me rather well in my effort to keep her to it!

One naughty, in that she has included a photo of a local group receiving something from Justin - and that is something that shouldn't be done, putting their charitable status at risk. Making look like they endorse the candidate I mean - the group is very good at remaining aloof from Politics. I can't remember where or what the gift was about, had I known it was going to be used in a political document I may well have advised them not to accept it.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Weebleman on April 26, 2014, 09:02:45 AM
Received Garry Perkins leaflet today.

No mention of Wi-Fi amongst his past achievements. If the project was as successful as Rod Bluh suggests, I am surprised that he didn't mention it.

Is that the same leaflet on which he declares unstinting support for local business and community..... then you find the leaflet was printed in Grimsby or Hull or somewhere like that?  Can't quote the actual location as the leaflet is probably being recycled as I type :)
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 26, 2014, 12:27:12 PM
Received Garry Perkins leaflet today.

No mention of Wi-Fi amongst his past achievements. If the project was as successful as Rod Bluh suggests, I am surprised that he didn't mention it.

Is that the same leaflet on which he declares unstinting support for local business and community..... then you find the leaflet was printed in Grimsby or Hull or somewhere like that?  Can't quote the actual location as the leaflet is probably being recycled as I type :)

Printed by GTEC in Oldham
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: I Could Do That on April 26, 2014, 12:43:53 PM
I guess we can look forward to a bit of spin on the Adver pages and read "excerpts of a troll" within the comment sections  :popcorn:
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11174108.Election_will_be_very_close_fight/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11174108.Election_will_be_very_close_fight/)
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 26, 2014, 12:54:02 PM
Here is what Garry has to say:-

Council Tax - Frozen Again
The Conservative Council has frozen Council Tax for 4 years. In stark contrast to when Labour hiked it by 42% in 3 years.

Local Regeneration
Garry is delivering the regeneration our Town needs. Regent Circus development is nearly finished, bringing a new cinema, supermarket and restaurants. The £65 million Oasis redevelopment plans are progressing well.

Supporting Local Schools
Garry welcomes the £4M expansion of Haydonleigh school to help accommodate the growing number of local pupils. He also supports the proposal for a new Secondary School in North Swindon.

The Haydon Centre
Garry is committed to supporting our popular local community centre and ensuring its long term future.

EU Referendum
It is our sovereign right as a nation to have a final say on our borders, our laws and our lives. Only the Conservatives can give local residents THEIR say on Europe.

Improving Highways and Potholes
Garry welcomes the significant additional money to fill potholes and make improvements to our roads. He also wishes to widen the road by Morrison's to improve traffic flows and upgrade the crossing on The Street.

Quality of Life
We will continue to tackle litter, dog fouling and graffiti. Garry will work with the Police to tackle anti-social behaviour and he is a member of the Wiltshire Fire Authority.

North Swindon Library
Our popular and well used local library is an integral part of life in North Swindon. Garry will ensure the continued success of this essential local service.

Working Together
Garry will work with local MP Justin Tomlinson, Swindon Council, Haydon Wick Parish Council and local residents to represent our community.

Listening to Residents
Garry will be a highly visible and hard working local councillor committed to communicating with residents through door knocking, monthly surgeries and newsletters.

Budget - Savings Boost
The ISA limit boost will help people get more from their savings and the Chancellor has also rightly given pensioners, not banks, control over their pension fund.

Purton Road & Moredon Park
We have delivered improvements to the parking and waiting regulations at Purton Road shops and Moredon Park which benefits local residents, visitors and shoppers alike.

Title: Re: elections...
Post by: I Could Do That on April 26, 2014, 01:01:00 PM
Sounds wonderful.
I now love him and want to have his babys  :2funny:
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 26, 2014, 01:09:53 PM
Local Regeneration
The £65 million Oasis redevelopment plans are progressing well unless you believe stories about financial difficulties.

The Haydon Centre
Garry is committed to supporting our popular local community centre and ensuring its long term future by handing it over to a developer on a 99 year lease

EU Referendum
It is our sovereign right as a nation to have a final say on our borders, our laws and our lives. Only the Conservatives can give local residents THEIR say on Europe but you have no say over religion. We are a Christian country because David says so.

Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 26, 2014, 01:33:20 PM
UKIP all day long.

I can't see the relevance of UKIP in a local election. EU membership, immigration policy etc are decided by central government.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 26, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
Received Garry Perkins leaflet today.

No mention of Wi-Fi amongst his past achievements. If the project was as successful as Rod Bluh suggests, I am surprised that he didn't mention it.

Is that the same leaflet on which he declares unstinting support for local business and community..... then you find the leaflet was printed in Grimsby or Hull or somewhere like that?  Can't quote the actual location as the leaflet is probably being recycled as I type :)

Printed by GTEC in Oldham

Supporting Swindon business then?
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 26, 2014, 02:01:09 PM
UKIP all day long.

I can't see the relevance of UKIP in a local election. EU membership, immigration policy etc are decided by central government.

I remember the 2012's when Nick Martin was in the Gents ranting that Mary, she who is now trying to join him in the supposedly safe seat of Shaw. had lost in Lydiard Freshbrook due to the UKIP vote. 

So they have some relevance to the local scene even if they hoover up disaffected Conservatives, which they will.

I wonder what will happen to Nick this time if Mary actually fails and for that matter his own position within the Conservative Party?

Would they dare to deselect him next year/
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 26, 2014, 02:13:58 PM
Local Regeneration
The £65 million Oasis redevelopment plans are progressing well unless you believe stories about financial difficulties.

Do you think Garry should be proud of the fact that his partner at the Oasis came back to the table to renegotiate the Lease because they could not finance it?  Mind you Lead Member for Leisure Councillor Williams clearly stated at the Cabinet Forum on last Wednesday Night that the Council had investigated Morai and they did not find anything that undermined their confidence in them.  So if they are not concerned what right do we have to be?

Some Documents:

[url]http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=47351[/url] ([url]http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=47351[/url])
 
[url]http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=35227[/url] ([url]http://ww5.swindon.gov.uk/moderngov/mgIssueHistoryHome.aspx?IId=35227[/url])

The Haydon Centre
Garry is committed to supporting our popular local community centre and ensuring its long term future by handing it over to a developer on a 99 year lease

What I would like to know is what they hope to gain from doing this?  I wonder if the Labour Party have decided to actually use this fact and campaign on this issue because once it is gone it is gone without undoubtedly phenomenal financial penalties and as we are already £120m in debt why do we want to add to it?


EU Referendum
It is our sovereign right as a nation to have a final say on our borders, our laws and our lives. Only the Conservatives can give local residents THEIR say on Europe but you have no say over religion. We are a Christian country because David says so.

Good one that!! :D  If Cameron wanted to give us a referendum we would have had one already.  I would not trust him or Garry to deliver on this anything further than I could throw Swindon!!

Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Muggins on April 26, 2014, 03:49:21 PM
Her Goes with Ms Maltby's then:

Council Tax frozen Again
Our conservative Council has frozen council tax for the 4th year running, keeping bill down for families an pensioners.

Backing Local Schools
Our excellent schools are benefitting from £7.8 million of additional funding through the Pupil Premium.

Boosting Swindon's skills:
The new university Technical College will give young people skills vital to our local economy, getting them making, inventing and working in our town.

EU Referedum:
It is our sovereign right as nation to have the final say on our borders, our laws and our lives. Only the Conservatives can give local residents THEIR say on Europe (nice pic of Justin in front of I support... banner'

Local Parks:
We are blessed to have excellent parks, Stratton Wood and Sevenfields (it's two words Harriet) Nature Reserve. I will ensure they are kept clean and well maintained for the community to enjoy.

Budget Savings Boost:
The new ISA limit boost will help people get more from their savings and the Chancellor has also rightly given pensioners, not banks, control over their own pension fund.

Supporting Local Businesses:
Having worked in a  family business, I know the importance of local businesses for jobs, growth and the community.

Town Centre Regeneration:
the Regent Circus development is nearly finished, bringing a new cinema, supermarket and restaurants to our town centre.

Income tax:
I am a proud member of the Conservatives, over 80,00 Swindon residents have had an income tax cut worth on average £700 a year.

Supporting Community Groups:
I thoroughly support the excellent contribution local voluntary groups make to our community and I will do all I can to help them even more.

Fixing potholes:
Our local roads have suffered the bad weather and I welcome the £200 million fund now available to help fix potholes. Work has already begun!

Local Library Protected:
Despite budget pressures, the Upper Stratton Library has been protected, giving local residents continued access to this excellent service.






Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Des Morgan on April 26, 2014, 10:56:35 PM
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The £65 million Oasis redevelopment plans are progressing well.

Really - so the rumour that Morai owe SBC money for energy bills (they couldn't split the meters) is just a load of guff ?

The snowdome is on track, and the hotel !!!!

Really??

Would the people of Haydon Wick trust Garry Perkins to run a whelk stall ?.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 27, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
Would the people of Haydon Wick trust Garry Perkins to run a whelk stall ?.

Yes because there appears to be no one to take him on, that is head on, in Hayden Wick.

Sadly the person who could have done that is Steph Exell who chose to challenge the strong Conservative Ward of Shaw instead.  As a Hayden Wick Parish Councillor she was halfway there, wasn't she?

Interesting to note just how many people talk to me on the doorsteps about our Garry and his Digital City Caper, but I am not sure whether it is Mr Wi-fi or Mr Mayor who will damage the Conservative (Mrs Martin's) vote the most!
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Mart on April 27, 2014, 05:51:06 PM
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Re: elections...
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Quote from: Mart on April 25, 2014, 07:12:56 PM
UKIP all day long.

I can't see the relevance of UKIP in a local election. EU membership, immigration policy etc are .....

I like them because of their irrelevance. Eventually they'll become relevant, if enough people vote for them.

Only a matter of time before the Lib Dems coalesce with them probably.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Mickraker on April 27, 2014, 09:00:59 PM
Would the people of Haydon Wick trust Garry Perkins to run a whelk stall ?.


I thought he was a Shaw councillor until 22nd May  :-\ http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10998639.print/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10998639.print/)
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 27, 2014, 10:30:29 PM
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10998639.print/

The mayor, whose wife Mary will be standing for the vacated Shaw seat, declined to comment on either the disagreement or the alleged comments.

He said: “I am delighted that a councillor of 12 years’ experience at Toothill and Freshbook has been selected to stand and I congratulate Coun Perkins on being selected for Haydon Wick.”

What this article fails to say is that Mary Martin seeks to join her husband as a Councillor for Shaw and if he didn't say the above he would not very loyal to his wife, would he?

Additionally, of course, the electorate of Lydiard Freshbrook chose not to re elect Mary in 2012 and she was replaced by Labour Candidate Cindy Matthews or was it the UKIP vote that done it Nick as you were shouting in the gents at the count?
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 28, 2014, 11:29:36 PM
What has happened to the elections?

Is this going to be the biggest non event of the year with very few people voting?
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Muggins on April 29, 2014, 08:17:14 AM
Shame they are not like the olden days - the REALLY olden days, Mum used to tell me that even the kids walked around chanting:

Vote, Vote for Mr (it was always male) Doodah, Kick ol' (opponent) up the A%*
and then there was another line or two getting ruder.

Elections must have been so much more fun then!

Some of it's going on on facebook.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 29, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
What has happened to the elections?

Is this going to be the biggest non event of the year with very few people voting?

A low turn out seems par for the course these days.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 29, 2014, 07:46:59 PM
What has happened to the elections?

Is this going to be the biggest non event of the year with very few people voting?

A low turn out seems par for the course these days.

The question is how low is low?
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Terry Reynolds on April 29, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
New subject on elections, can anyone, tell me what ward, the east side of Drove road is in, that is the part from Upham Road, down to Walcot road??
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on April 29, 2014, 09:02:06 PM
It is in Walcot and Park North.

The maps on the SBC website are very poor, but there is a good one on the South Swindon Labour website.

http://southswindonlabour.co.uk/page/ward-map-south-swindon-constituency (http://southswindonlabour.co.uk/page/ward-map-south-swindon-constituency)

It lets you zoom in so that you can read the street names.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Terry Reynolds on April 29, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
that's funny, Ms Ellis says she lives in old town....... (touch of the Mr Bluh and Clifton st\old town.......)
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on May 04, 2014, 06:47:51 PM
Improving Highways and Potholes
Garry welcomes the significant additional money to fill potholes and make improvements to our roads. He also wishes to widen the road by Morrison's to improve traffic flows and upgrade the crossing on The Street.

Potholes seem to be a big issue for the Tories during this election campaign. A friend at the council tells me that David Cameron is popping into the Civic next week to talk about government funding for potholes.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Muggins on May 04, 2014, 07:05:10 PM
That'll be the civic getting  a spruce up then? 
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on May 04, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
When Gordon brown visited Drove School in 2010, Swindon Council banned the media from attending. A spokesman said the Local Government Act 1986 meant the authority "cannot allow electioneering on any council premises or property in the official pre-election period".

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/8109742.swindon_council_bans_media_from_gordon_brown_visit/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/8109742.swindon_council_bans_media_from_gordon_brown_visit/)

When David Cameron attends Swindon, I wonder if the media will also be banned from council property.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on May 05, 2014, 03:45:59 PM
I have just received the Labour leaflet.

The Tories posted a leaflet asking me to vote for Garry Perkins and listing 12 reasons why they think I should (See Post #10).

Labour's leaflet is shaped like a green wheelie bin and promises to reverse the green collection charge if they get in. There is no mention of who their candidate is.

I will be surprised and disappointed if Labour are going to fight this election on a single policy.

I am not a fan of the £40 green collection charge, but I pay £1600 per year in council tax. Are Labour seriously hoping to win my vote over something which accounts for 2.5% of my bill? What about the other 97.5%? Are labour suggesting that they think the Tories have got everything else right?  :WTF:
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on May 05, 2014, 06:41:09 PM
An interesting quiz which compares your views on key topics with the main political parties.

http://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz (http://uk.isidewith.com/political-quiz)
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: OTTed on May 05, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Thanks for that link Spunk. Quite interesting. I won't be posting my results, but interesting.

Bit weird though. I am hugely against Scottish independence, yet I get them fairly high in my matches.....so they aren't really prioritising properly :-)
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Mart on May 06, 2014, 07:03:53 PM
UKIP 87%

With a bit of Labour for Education, and a couple of Conservative bits.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Terry Reynolds on July 25, 2014, 03:28:33 PM
Have you all received your election letter from the council, and noted how they have now produced two election lists, one for the electoral stint and one, which now called the 'open register', this one, with your details on it, is available to anybody who wishes to purchase it, for whatever means, and all you details will be given to them.  That is, if you don't ring in to the number provided and take your name out of the register..
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Weebleman on July 25, 2014, 04:17:14 PM
Have you all received your election letter from the council, and noted how they have now produced two election lists, one for the electoral stint and one, which now called the 'open register', this one, with your details on it, is available to anybody who wishes to purchase it, for whatever means, and all you details will be given to them.  That is, if you don't ring in to the number provided and take your name out of the register..

Just done it! Interesting that it uses a charged 0800 number and takes almost 2 minutes per person in the household. Yet another money spinner!
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Tobes on July 25, 2014, 04:35:42 PM
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Have you all received your election letter from the council, and noted how they have now produced two election lists, one for the electoral stint and one, which now called the 'open register', this one, with your details on it, is available to anybody who wishes to purchase it, for whatever means, and all you details will be given to them.  That is, if you don't ring in to the number provided and take your name out of the register..

Do what?! I thought bullshit like this was supposed to be opt in rather than opt out? So, given I haven't had a letter, am I doomed to receive even more environment busting junk mail I don't even bother opening, and a deluge more pointless unsolicited automated calls from India?!

I have an active list in my kitchen now - any - and I mean ANY - companies who write to me or call me by name with an unsolicited approach are automatically but on my boycott list.  :tickedoff:
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Muggins on July 25, 2014, 06:02:41 PM
Here you are Tobes, a copy of the letter, with all the personal things left off, and the contact details.

When you get to the 'need to know more':  https://www.gov.uk/yourvotematters (https://www.gov.uk/yourvotematters)

It doesn't tell you much in fact it's going round in circles. Except it seems councils don't have to ask you, i.e. they can keep the register as it is i.e. secret. It wasn't secret before the Data Protection act. 'course then they probably didn't have the opportunity to sell it for cash.

So the epitome of bureaucratic excellence and efficiency that is SBC, will have a phone call to say you want to 'opt out'!
Can't get the document up, will try later.

Well I can see how that's going to pan out, can't you?

I think if I opt out of allowing my name to go on the open register, might mean I get opted out of voting altogether.

Like you Tobes, my stomach churns at the chances of those hourly phone calls again.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on July 25, 2014, 06:33:33 PM
Do what?! I thought bullshit like this was supposed to be opt in rather than opt out? So, given I haven't had a letter, am I doomed to receive even more environment busting junk mail I don't even bother opening, and a deluge more pointless unsolicited automated calls from India?!

I have an active list in my kitchen now - any - and I mean ANY - companies who write to me or call me by name with an unsolicited approach are automatically but on my boycott list.  :tickedoff:

I have just received my letter and was pissed off by it. I previously registered to be on the 'secret list' so why do they feel that they have a right to change this decision.

I previously opted out in order to avoid receiving the environment busting junk mail, but now as a protest I am intending to dispose of all junk mail in the wheelie bin for landfill. Why should I help the borough achieve it's recycling targets if the greedy money grabbing bastards are part of the problem.

Is it a legal requirement to be on the Electoral Register. I would happily trade my vote for no junk mail.  :argh:
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on July 25, 2014, 07:21:48 PM
I have an active list in my kitchen now - any - and I mean ANY - companies who write to me or call me by name with an unsolicited approach are automatically but on my boycott list.  :tickedoff:

Tobes, any companies daft enough to send me unsolicited mail and include a postage paid envelope get it sent back at their cost. Surprising how quickly it stops.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Spunkymonkey on July 25, 2014, 07:56:21 PM
Do what?! I thought bullshit like this was supposed to be opt in rather than opt out? So, given I haven't had a letter, am I doomed to receive even more environment busting junk mail I don't even bother opening, and a deluge more pointless unsolicited automated calls from India?!

Sorry for so many posts on this issue.

You might not have received a letter if you are a sole occupier. According to the blurb:-

Up to now, the head of a household has been responsible for registering everyone who lives there.

From 10 June, people in England and Wales will register as individuals instead, using a new system.


My girlfriend and I have both received a letter. Is it the case that they are now registering us separately and assuming that our previous request to opt out was the household's decision and not the individuals?

I will let the leader of the council deal with the fall out from my girlfriend having officially decreed that I am the Head of the Household. Oh yeah !!!  :banana:
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Terry Reynolds on August 01, 2014, 10:27:56 PM
I watched the 6.30 bbc west news tonight, on it there was an item about the shortage of doctors in both Bristol and Swindon, in the Swindon brief, they showed the bungalow that has now been sold, that was the doctors surgery in croft road, and also, they mentioned about the surgery in Freshbrook, that is going to open twice a week, again due to shortage of doctors.
What surprised me, was how Ms Excel, Ms Snelgrove and others, were bumping their gums about this, and yet at the last west Swindon forum, when this was discussed in great detail, none of them were there to comment
Did they just miss the meeting, or did they know that there would be no tv or press photographers there !!.
Title: Re: elections...
Post by: Karsten on January 27, 2015, 04:31:39 AM
All those who are allotment tenants and have seen their rent go up from £7.50, to £48 per year, should remember this when you go to vote in May.... :WTF:

Less than residents parking!