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Title: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on March 26, 2012, 08:43:54 PM
I wonder who this 'bobby wright' character on the Adver comments section is, as 'he' seems awful upset with talkswindon (I assume he means TS as I can't find a site called trashswindon) :idiot2: as this rant shows:

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If the vile gentlemen and women of trashswindon get their noses into it, then they’re bound to start throwing wild accusations of corruption and underhanded deals around that will scare off yet more potential investors in Swindon.

About time these Muppets were held to account with an AK47


http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9612748.__65m_overhaul_of_Oasis_a_step_closer/#commentsList (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9612748.__65m_overhaul_of_Oasis_a_step_closer/#commentsList)

So I thought I'd give him something else to get upset about  >:D

I can't help but wonder if a Tory councillor or associate/propagandist is behind the pseudonym. Personally I can't see why a normal person would get upset by  talkswindon. In the same way that when the Telegraph exposed the MPs expenses scandal Joe Public wasn't angry at the paper but rather at the MPs. The only people who were upset with the paper were those with their noses in the troughs. 

Having a pseudonym very similar to the name of Labour Cllr. Bob Wright is mightily iffy as well, why do that if you're a normal member of the public?

I wonder about Always Grumpy as well...
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on March 26, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
'Vile Gentlemen' has a certain ring to it as well, I believe I have heard that before.

Spelling is unusually consistent as well.

Could be Bob Wright has gone bonkers, though I doubt it, so it's a pop at TS and maybe a niggle at it's supposed Labour bias.

It's not me either.

Even though you are all pinkos as anyone knows.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 26, 2012, 10:12:03 PM

I liked the irony of a right-wing-nutter-to-the-point-of-being-fascist advocating the use of an AK47 to hold members of the public to account for scrutinising a democraticly corrupt council.

Any decent insurgent knows the AK47u is a better choice of weapon for urban work.  Amateurs, eh?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: bobwright on March 26, 2012, 10:29:15 PM
Its not me. I do write to the letter page and the Adver kindly prints most of the letters. I have to give my name and address etc and I send these by the email address I use for public communication.

I do expect to be called bonkers now and again.

There is no doubt Talkswindon has changed but I think that this has come about because of experience. I still find I am challenged by contributors with a different view and political leanings.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on March 26, 2012, 10:42:56 PM
Vile women!!!!!!!!

Hmmm now I wonder ......

Well lets have a look at the definition of vile shall we
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Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on March 26, 2012, 11:10:24 PM
In my view, the word  'Vile' is what I would use to describe paedophiles,  sex offenders, men or women who get pleasure out of beating their partners because they want to control them, sex pests, and cruel evil people who torture,  kill or maim animals and old people for fun. 

I would in fact use the words 'Vile Scum'.

Well I suppose to even think about using an Ak47 to bring us Muppet to account is quite a sick thought for someone to have. Now most posters on TS as far as I am aware use the forum to discuss and debate topics that are current within Swindon and within government.

OK there have been posts on here by posters that sometimes make you think oh dear and is cringe material,  the same as if you read the adver site. However I don't think anyone has felt the urge to post that they want to sort people out with an Ak47 before!

This individual or persons appear to hold a grudge and its a tad worrying.

It bothers me to think that normal people are being judged for posting on things they believe in. And why shouldn't they. 

I think there will be more to come - why can't people just be nice!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Jean on March 27, 2012, 07:52:43 AM

I wonder about Always Grumpy as well...

Always Grumpy never misses an opportunity to have a go at me on the Adver website about the Coate campaign - and his postings go back for years. I'm sure that he is rabid conservative supporter if not a councillor.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on March 27, 2012, 08:43:21 AM
I've seen those descriptions over on facebook and whilst I don't mind being lumped as 'vile' ?????   

I do object to the trashswindon bit. 

With very few exceptions the grumbles on here are not about Swindon itself, quite the reverse, it seems most of us care deeply about what's happening to it and therefore what we are trashing is Swindon Borough council trashing of our town, and even then only a part of SBC - where the buck stops.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: DarkAuror on March 27, 2012, 09:14:23 AM
I wonder what email address "Bobbywright" uses to create his/her Swindon Adver account and is he.she on the electoral roll?  :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on March 27, 2012, 09:53:39 AM
No doubt someone is looking and asking questions, considering how vile we are, it seems some are very interested in who we are.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Martin Wicks on March 27, 2012, 11:07:51 AM
If my memory serves me well wasn't Bobby Wright posting on the Housing Facebook page during the debate over the 'transfer' of our housing stock?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on March 27, 2012, 01:06:13 PM
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About time these Muppets were held to account with an AK47

This is a thinly veiled death-threat .  If he repeats this threat, his posting should be reported to the Police. I’m fairly sure that issuing threats is a public order offence.

However, for now, I doubt that we should take this threat seriously but you can never tell with nutters, which in my book includes political and religious extremists.

It is curious, that to seek the outcome where this person is comfortable, i.e. no scrutinising of a council, he considers the use of an AK47.

To those who are not familiar (which are few and far between in this world) this is a military assault rifle invented by a Russian and supplied widely from Russian, Chinese and North Korean factories to governments and terrorist organisations around the world, who coincidently, also do not like scrutiny of what they do. The AK47 has probably been used to kill and suppress more people than any other man-made device in history. That is when the weapon is used in it's intended military role. As examples of assassinations and attempted assassinations by ex Soviet Block agents over the last 20 odd years show, they never choose the AK47.

(Personally I don’t rate the AK47. It can be used by almost anyone, can survive ill treatment and infrequent cleaning but it still a piece of inaccurate cr*p, which is also difficult to conceal in an urban environment. For these last two reasons I don’t think that bob wright has a clue about weapons and if he did get hold of an AK47, would put himself in more danger than anyone else, which might stop him posting anything, anywhere again. So there may be an upside!)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 27, 2012, 02:54:53 PM
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I don’t think that bob wright has a clue about weapons and if he did get hold of an AK47, would put himself in more danger than anyone else, which might stop him posting anything, anywhere again. So there may be an upside!)

I think we need to point out that you're referring to 'Bobby Wright' (The Troll residing under the virtual arches of the Adver comments bridge), and not the genuinely corporeal form of Bob Wright, Labour councillor of Central. :)

The real Bob Wright is much more of a gentle-Gentleman.


On the subject of threats.....

I've received several threats since Talkswindon started in 2006.  Without exception they have all originated from individuals directly involved with or closely attached to the political & commercial dealings of the Conservative dominated council administration.

A good example of one would be: (I make no apology for reproducing this verbatim)


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12 November 2010 at 00:27 Report

Ur fuckin dead u cunt I'm gonna put u 2 sleep!

Sent via Facebook Mobile


I'm certainly not the only vocal swindon person to receive threats, (veiled or direct), over very recent years and one of the common triggers appears to be the potential interruption in the flow of money and/or land moving from public ownership and control into the hands of private enterprise, as caused by the public scrutiny of the same. 

If readers reflect on the above, and then consider it against a likely future picture of Swindon Police Officers standing guard at council meetings and developers 'consultation' events, (consider HabOakus for example), then I'm sure some will recognise the that 'maintaining public order and keeping the peace' are quickly becoming synonymous with the deliberate suppression of public enquiry, scrutiny, challenge and debate. The Croft debacle is a perfect and current example of this in action. It won't be long before the Police start appearing at any 'event' connected to Cllr Bluh's Pop-Up School proposals.

Tbh, (and going back to the Adver's 'Bobby Wright'), I like it when some associates and supporters of this administration lash out and make threats openly because the more people that bear witness to their behaviour the better, and the quicker Swindon people will grasp why they ought to reject what is being offered as 'Conservatism' here. 

Moderate conservatives within the Council have no influence or control over the ones in control, and the ones in control are actually out of control, corrupting local democracy to their own ends and behaving as if they cannot be held accountable for their blighting of local lives, land and livelihoods.

Some Conservative Councillors, (and their few remaining minions), are becoming increasingly fascist in my honest opinion and I think my previous analogys and examples look more apt by the day.  I expect their behaviour and actions to get steadily worse as we approach Mays elections, (if they think they are going to fare badly), and head rapidly towards atrocious if they hold onto control of the council until the next local elections in 2014.

Dark times ahead.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: SN1 on March 27, 2012, 04:21:04 PM
Would appear that 'Bobby Wright' has been around for a while.

Just did a quick search of Google and he has commented on at least 6 articles since August last year ... but does appear to be upping his comments of late ...

For more 'Bobby Wright' gems ... check out ...

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=bobby+wright+swindonadvertiser (http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=bobby+wright+swindonadvertiser)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on March 27, 2012, 04:32:52 PM
(Personally I don’t rate the AK47. It can be used by almost anyone, can survive ill treatment and infrequent cleaning but it still a piece of inaccurate cr*p, which is also difficult to conceal in an urban environment. For these last two reasons I don’t think that bob wright has a clue about weapons and if he did get hold of an AK47, would put himself in more danger than anyone else, which might stop him posting anything, anywhere again. So there may be an upside!)

Wasn't it a copy of the innovative German Assault rifle of WWII vintage? Dumbed down for cheap production and use by poorly trained peasant soldiers.

My heads full of this stuff and sometimes I hear it talking.

But I'm not Bobby.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on March 27, 2012, 04:35:02 PM
Thanks Geoff. I should have clarified that myself.

Bob Wright is a person, I believe of good character, who is a Councillor on Swindon Borough Council. I refer to him using capital letters for each part of his name as is correct for a "Proper Noun" i.e. a name, a place etc.

I used bob wright, using lower case letters for each part of the term, for our scumbag Adver contributor as it is unlikely to be his name and so it is a "Common Noun". I use the term "scumbag" as an adjective. How fitting

So for the avoidance of any doubt; we have, "Councillor Bob Wright" and "scumbag bob wright". They are different people and we would dearly like to know who the second one is. (How fitting the English language can be!)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 27, 2012, 04:35:10 PM
My heads full of this stuff and sometimes I hear it talking.

Sigmund Reid says: "Please don't climb any water towers"  ;D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on March 27, 2012, 04:43:17 PM
Funny you should say that. They've only gone and put scaffolding and ladders on the two at work.

Bit provocative I thought.

Though with my eyesight there's nothing to fret about even if I was moved to correct what I thought was a political imbalance with firearms.

SLR in my view but that's been done elsewhere.

Re the eyesight, according to recent tests, no change, so how come I can't feckin see?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Terry Reynolds on March 27, 2012, 08:33:20 PM
I have sent an email to Mr Hurley, and asked him what is going to be done about 'bobby wrights' comments..  :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on March 27, 2012, 09:17:43 PM
I guess we all have an idea of the most likely candidate behind the real identity of Mr 'Wright'. There's only been one or two people that aggressive, rude and wilfully antagonistic on TS - and it doesn't take a detective to spot the common use of language and shared political slant between them and the current batch of Adver political sock-puppets...

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on March 27, 2012, 09:56:06 PM

I wonder about Always Grumpy as well...

Always Grumpy never misses an opportunity to have a go at me on the Adver website about the Coate campaign - and his postings go back for years. I'm sure that he is rabid conservative supporter if not a councillor.

These are mere guesses and I may be wrong but...
I would consider placing a bet that " Always Grumpy" and I 2 Could B are the same person.

The latter was originally called I 2 Could B Coate Water (as a deliberate ploy to be confused with and intimidating to "I Too" ? )

I 2 Could B was also called 20 Eyes (pretty certain of that one)

"They" are avid defender(s) of the most prolific wannabe politician dominating the threads (who has been caught out using multiple logins more than once) regardless of how rude he is? (recently discredited TS when it was mentioned)

Check out the threads that have arguments lasting days/weeks and see what you think

I have spent far too much time on those threads.   :D

Think I'll give it up now before I turn totally doolally  :crazy2:


Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: boothill on March 28, 2012, 12:26:57 AM
I have sent an email to Mr Hurley, and asked him what is going to be done about 'bobby wrights' comments..  :wink:

The second word is ALL !
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 28, 2012, 02:18:51 PM

I wouldn't waste time wondering who any of them are. 

Trolling using multiple personas is the www equivalent of using inflatable tanks or a pufferfish inflating itself to look bigger than it really is and when one person flits between multiple web personas to 'surround' and gang-bang their 'nemesis' their state of mind is probably such that they are not going to write anything credible, convincing or trustworthy.

I have sent an email to Mr Hurley, and asked him what is going to be done about 'bobby wrights' comments..  :wink:

Personally speaking:  I don't want anything done about Bobby Wrights comments because to request their removal is to condone the same censorship and curtailmant of free speech and debate that the 'Bobby Wrights' of the www want to impose on everyone else.

That 'Bobby' says he wants it done with an AK47 says much about his political viewpoint and is an interesting reflection of the dictatorial and mentally violent nature of Swindon's right wing who ignore the views of others until the noise level becomes such that they start fantasising about gunning them down.....

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on March 28, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
Mean while, north of the town, an old biddy is polishing her runes and buffing up the crystal ball, whilst the acrid essence of a pot of herbs boiling on the back burner surrounds her, later they will be cast into a cauldron and used in a vile spell.

Swifter and more deadly than any metal weapon.

Is still it illegal to cast spells, or threaten to cast them?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on March 28, 2012, 06:15:40 PM
Indeed. The last 'Bobby' (totally unrelated OF COURSE to this particular character  :wink:) whom we tried to moderate because of their increasingly offensive behaviour went off falsely claiming he'd been banned.

My attitude is to let them have their say as far as is legally possible, as all reasonable people can see them and their ethics for what they are.

What I find odd is their dedicated compulsion to keep doing it when its so obviously counter-productive. Stupidity is the word which best describes, I guess.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on March 28, 2012, 06:35:28 PM

Yes Tobes;

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Stupidity is the word which best describes, I guess.

How would anyone imagine that gunning people down with an Assault Rifle would attract business to the town?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on March 28, 2012, 08:52:07 PM
Hmmm
To say something or to write/type something - the initiator must therefore have thought about it / had the thought in his /her head/mind!

One does wonder what images this conjures in the mind of the initiator.

For example when people initiate communication /converse etc the recipient imagines/creates images in his /her mind from what the other person is telling them!  Hence why we laugh at jokes as we picture the scenario.

Most people know that an AK47 is a powerful machine gun and just by looking at the word AK47 conjures up an image of a gun (for me personally ). The word ' muppets' for me relates to the puppets used on the Muppet show.

Not only has Bobby wright indicated an urge towards violence and letting rip with a machine gun,  he/she has also de-humanised members of Talk Swindon by referring to them as Muppets which as we know are puppets. Does this make him feel better about his/her thoughts of using the Ak47?

Serial Killers do this allegedly - people become objects, that's how they deal with the guilt and morality of the situation by using this process of dis association and distancing.

In layman's terms, the bobby wright character has a score to settle - what, I don't know, why,  I don't know - is it a personal score? Highly probable.

Funny things us humans eh? 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on March 28, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
We is all Nutters Chav.

But some of us is less Nuttier than others(?)

(Your streamlined milk-float is lookin' hijackable at the moment. If I nick it, can I bring it back to be recharged?)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on March 28, 2012, 11:20:26 PM
We is all Nutters Chav.


But some of us is less Nuttier than others(?)

(Your streamlined milk-float is lookin' hijackable at the moment. If I nick it, can I bring it back to be recharged?)

You will have to!  There are no other charge points in Swindon !!
Well that's a lie - fish brothers Nissan,  or anyone who is willing to let you plug it in to their socket !
(No I am not being vile - just in case)

My streamlined milk-float does well over 90mph and pulls away very quickly.
I have helped to save two eco trees on the planet now! Oh and I'm currently ranking silver because of my eco driving - my car tells me this. It talks to me in a posh ladies voice.

No I'm not a nutty  Nutter - it really does tell me this information! 

Renault are bringing out the 'tizzy an EV made for two - one behind the other tandem style - a bit of a con though as you have to rent the battery and pay to have a charge point installed.  They are also bringing out the Renault Zoe.  Both can be found on youtube.

I like the look of the Nissan nuvu
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Des Moffatt on March 29, 2012, 12:24:18 AM
In my absence just before Peter Mallison crossed the floor he described me as a muppet in Labour group, presumably a twisting of my family name. My mate Maurice Fanning was instantly very unkind to Peter. I hadn't heard of the word being used in derogatory fashion before that. I later had a poisen pen letter in the same vein to my home address complete with post code with the name Des Muppett. It's of no importance and I do not suggest Peter Mallison responsible for the poisen pen letter or that he is bobby wright.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on March 29, 2012, 04:57:22 AM

 'Wing Commander Shattering-Buttocks' would be an appropriately vile Adver pseudonym for Peter Mallinson :)

Of course he'd be talking of strafing the Talkswindon trenches, not clearing them with an AK.

Like his leader he prefers to devastate Swindon from a safe distance. 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on March 29, 2012, 10:34:06 AM

 'Wing Commander Shattering-Buttocks' would be an appropriately vile Adver pseudonym for Peter Mallinson :)

Of course he'd be talking of strafing the Talkswindon trenches, not clearing them with an AK.

Like his leader he prefers to devastate Swindon from a safe distance.

Geoff I am very sorry I must correct you - Peter was a Flight Lieutenant in the RAF not a Wing Commander.

The Bramptons is blessed with two retired Flight Lieutenants and even one retired Squadron Leader.

I live in exalted company!!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on March 29, 2012, 12:02:06 PM
Exalted aye? But there again, did they get to be that via what they knew, who they knew, or how much they could pay?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 03, 2012, 10:35:20 PM
Aahahahahahaha!

 ;D

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9625668.Mobility_scooter_goes_up_in_flames/?ref=mr (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9625668.Mobility_scooter_goes_up_in_flames/?ref=mr)

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Bobby Wright says...
3:54pm Mon 2 Apr 12

You can bet your bottom dollar that those special kind of people from the vile trashswindon will soon be trying to blame it on poor maintenance due to council cuts.
We’re all glad that Brenda is OK and as anyone knows, these things sometimes just happen.


They're really doing their ineffective best to troll up a reaction, eh?

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on April 03, 2012, 10:56:51 PM
Aahahahahahaha!

 ;D

[url]http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9625668.Mobility_scooter_goes_up_in_flames/?ref=mr[/url] ([url]http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9625668.Mobility_scooter_goes_up_in_flames/?ref=mr[/url])

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Bobby Wright says...
3:54pm Mon 2 Apr 12

You can bet your bottom dollar that those special kind of people from the vile trashswindon will soon be trying to blame it on poor maintenance due to council cuts.
We’re all glad that Brenda is OK and as anyone knows, these things sometimes just happen.


They're really doing their ineffective best to troll up a reaction, eh?


Far too much time on ones hands me thinks! 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on April 04, 2012, 02:34:49 AM

Desperately seeking attention, isn't he?

Anyhow, several lamplighters have (independently of each other) advanced opinions of who 'Bobby Wright' is.

Interestingly they have all reached the same conclusion.

Personally speaking I can't be arsed to pander to his grudge.  He isn't, and never was,  up to challenging nature of TS so it's no surprise that he's taken up an 'anonymous' residency within the mastabatorium of the adver comments section....

...Which suits his low brow admirably :) 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Jean on April 04, 2012, 09:51:11 AM
And more from him today on the Adver letter's page:
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/#commentsList (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/#commentsList)

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Bobby Wright says...
9:33am Wed 4 Apr 12
Oh what a really silly woman Mrs Boyd is.

The so called “800” named petition was actually 2 petitions and a survey and contained the same multiple signers across the three. Boyd cannot even understand the rules of submitting a council petition.

Egged on by the sanctimonious support from those special kind of people on the TalkShite forum, she now think that the whole of the town really supports her. In fact most see these NIMBY’s for what they really are, self interested individuals who’s only real interest is protecting the price of their properties by not having a needed school in their area.

Best advice to Mrs Boyd is to take a long hard look at what she’s been hearing from the likes of the vile gentleman and understand that she is merely being used as yet another bullet in the gun he’s not man enough to fire himself.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on April 04, 2012, 10:15:30 AM
He knows an amazing amount about the petition for someone supposedly not involved at the council level, doesn't he?

And misguided in his comments!   
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on April 04, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
He knows an amazing amount about the petition for someone supposedly not involved at the council level, doesn't he?

And misguided in his comments!   
:wink:    :coffee:

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 04, 2012, 03:23:23 PM
He knows an amazing amount about the petition for someone supposedly not involved at the council level, doesn't he?

And misguided in his comments!   

Is that a clue in itself as to his identity?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 04, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
Dear oh dear, it would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

That someone could be reduced to such ineffectual mad trolling and barking is really sad.

 :-\
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on April 04, 2012, 09:28:16 PM
It's more than sad.
That is one seriously toxic individual
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Up The Crossing on April 04, 2012, 10:51:24 PM

I wouldn't waste time wondering who any of them are. 

Trolling using multiple personas is the www equivalent of using inflatable tanks or a pufferfish inflating itself to look bigger than it really is and when one person flits between multiple web personas to 'surround' and gang-bang their 'nemesis' their state of mind is probably such that they are not going to write anything credible, convincing or trustworthy.

Absolutely, bit like Mellon and Ben Reid on this site - not sure exactly who they are and regularly lacking the balls to say what they think under their own name.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Keith on April 04, 2012, 11:02:40 PM
I nearly walked on; but it is fair to say that Mellon has been quite open about the fact he is Ben Reid. He even came right out and stated it a few months ago when similarly challenged.

The simple rule of thumb I follow is that if you wouldn't say it in Public with everyone knowing who you are, then don't type it into a forum.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 04, 2012, 11:11:37 PM
Quote
The simple rule of thumb I follow is that if you wouldn't say it in Public with everyone knowing who you are, then don't type it into a forum.

I would generally agree Keith... but for the fact that I've spoken to employees of SBC who say that they would never dare express an opinion (however reasonable or gently expressed) which might run contrary to a policy promoted by the council, for fear it would have 'bad consequences for their future job security'.

I once publicly complained about an aspect of SBC service under my own name in the Adver - and one of your council officers found out who my employer was, and told them that as a result of my criticism, they were going to cancel a lucrative service contract with them. (I wasn't speaking for my employer - nor was I involved in the supply of the service)

After that point, I realised that the protection of anonymity was fully justified!

Up The Crossing, do you think Bobby Wright is a Toxic Twat... or are they the sort of person you'd like to look at in the mirror?  :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Up The Crossing on April 04, 2012, 11:33:19 PM

Up The Crossing, do you think Bobby Wright is a Toxic Twat... or are they the sort of person you'd like to look at in the mirror?  :wink:

Sadly, Bobby Wright appears to me to be a person with political thoughts on his mind, therefore no more helpful to the people of Swindon than any of the political bods who have put themselves up in the May elections.
Not sure if you are suggesting I might be a toxic twat or even Bobby Wright, but I can assure you, i'm neither of these, I just fail to understand the constant need for politics on all sides to spew over into the most important thing, that of making Swindon a better place now and in the future. From what I have seen in this town over the last 6 decades that I have lived here, they all promise the earth and deliver little.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 04, 2012, 11:44:52 PM
Those, sadly, are very wise words  :'(

As for Ben, hmmm. I think he went a little too far with his winding up of people as The Mellon, but I think as noted by Keith, he recognised that and that's why he's 'outed' himself.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on April 04, 2012, 11:47:23 PM
I think that anyone with a modicum of English comprehension knows that Ben Reid was heavily involved in "The Hanging Gardens of Reidom" and therefore exactly who he and The Mellon are.  Up the Crossing and bobbie wright are carrying out a pathetic, unintelligent anti TS / free speech campaign ahead of the elections. They are both true Muppets whose misplaced loyalty is being used by others.

Up the Crossing, try looking around you, thinking and then offer an opinion.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Des Moffatt on April 04, 2012, 11:52:52 PM
Bobbie Wright might not be a man, it might be polythene Pam
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 05, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Has/is Up The Crossing saying stuff comparable to Bobby...?

je suis confused
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Up The Crossing on April 05, 2012, 12:12:19 AM
  Up the Crossing and bobbie wright are carrying out a pathetic, unintelligent anti TS / free speech campaign ahead of the elections. They are both true Muppets whose misplaced loyalty is being used by others.

Up the Crossing, try looking around you, thinking and then offer an opinion.

Sorry,  where is the pathetic, unintelligent anti TS / free speech campaign from me?

My opinion is, I've no misplaced loyalty,  I have none, the whole political spectrum in Swindon is full of guff and meaningless promises..
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Beale on April 05, 2012, 01:21:00 AM
Quote
The simple rule of thumb I follow is that if you wouldn't say it in Public with everyone knowing who you are, then don't type it into a forum.

I would generally agree Keith... but for the fact that I've spoken to employees of SBC who say that they would never dare express an opinion (however reasonable or gently expressed) which might run contrary to a policy promoted by the council, for fear it would have 'bad consequences for their future job security'.


Too true... Seen it happen.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Rochelle on April 05, 2012, 07:30:32 AM
Des,
The vision of Polythene Pam wielding an AK47 in a Rambo outfit has reduced me to hysterics!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on April 05, 2012, 08:26:35 AM
"It's more than sad. That is one seriously toxic individual"

He's only toxic to others that want him to be, if his mission in life is to be that unpleasant, he will be unpleasant about anything that others hold dear, I would suspect that he is a magnificent putter-downer of everything and everyone and therefore not popular in any circle in which he moves. Still someone must love him.

Keith: Nearly walked past - blimey you fairly jumped out of the hedgerow that time!

I know that some people are overly worried and concerned about who is who on TS, I also worry as to why they should be so concerned and worry about the influence they have over people's jobs. (I could say more here, but I'm worried the effect of what happens is I do)  Maybe it's about time some TS'r with the time did a little SWOT analysis to being a contributor.

AS to my 'cover' I found it very useful at first - but by now most people know who I am and in fact I seem to be being called Muggins, more than my name now, I certainly refer to myself as it mroe and more often.

For over 30 years of community stuff, when I want to say something to someone I have to think very carefully about what's going on with them personally, nothing to be gained by screwing someone into the ground who is already suffering with all sorts or undermining the importance of a councillor in a meeting etc.  On here, we come to it equal - I don't know most of the people personally, don't have to deal with them outside of these pages.

Can you imagine TS'rs turning up at the SSP Conference and having their say there?
Don't worry it will ever happens they are far too carefully managed. Mellon, bless him for his youth!, would be quickly route marched out.

What get's written on TS needs saying, it needs an airing, and most of it is true.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Ben Reid on April 05, 2012, 12:18:34 PM

I wouldn't waste time wondering who any of them are. 

Trolling using multiple personas is the www equivalent of using inflatable tanks or a pufferfish inflating itself to look bigger than it really is and when one person flits between multiple web personas to 'surround' and gang-bang their 'nemesis' their state of mind is probably such that they are not going to write anything credible, convincing or trustworthy.

Absolutely, bit like Mellon and Ben Reid on this site - not sure exactly who they are and regularly lacking the balls to say what they think under their own name.

 ::)  :fish:

I nearly walked on; but it is fair to say that Mellon has been quite open about the fact he is Ben Reid. He even came right out and stated it a few months ago when similarly challenged.


Bang on Mr Williams...........i think its upto 4 times now  ;D

Those, sadly, are very wise words  :'(

As for Ben, hmmm. I think he went a little too far with his winding up of people as The Mellon, but I think as noted by Keith, he recognised that and that's why he's 'outed' himself.

hmmmmm interesting prospect...... ;D theres only 2 people i went too far with (ooooeeeeeerrrr missus) but thats in the past ;D .


  :azn:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on April 05, 2012, 02:19:01 PM
Bobbie Wright might not be a man, it might be polythene Pam


Just for you Des  :wink:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eiJxZ8AOrY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eiJxZ8AOrY#)


And the lyrics

Well you should see Polythene Pam
She's so good-looking but she looks like a man
Well you should see her in drag dressed in her polythene bag
Yes you should see Polythene Pam
Yeah yeah yeah

Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the news of the world
Yes you could say she was attractively built
Yeah yeah yeah

............. and no it isn't me,  although I have been known to wear a kilt as part of a punk rock fancy dress outfit  >:D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: helen thompson on April 05, 2012, 05:48:21 PM
Muggins the SSP 6 monthly conference would soon send any body who showed disent out and not ask them again and also i find.the SSP. only good for networking etc. being who i am i find that being open about yourself is the best way to live your life and yes i have put my foot in it sometimes, so no nickname for me etc what you see is what you get
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 05, 2012, 08:05:07 PM
Welcome back to the site Keith.

A question appropriate to this thread.

Have you personally been trying to identify Talk Swindon members who work for the council?

Perhaps you would be kind enough to confirm or deny it as you seek re election in Shaw?

Talk Swindon the place where only the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth is discussed.   O0
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Terry Reynolds on April 05, 2012, 08:13:55 PM
Perhaps Mr Williams will point out to Mr Martin, how the lack of staff came about!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on April 05, 2012, 08:15:25 PM
Perhaps Mr Williams will point out to Mr Martin, how the lack of staff came about!!!!!!!

Hey T can you expand on that question please?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on April 05, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
"Bobby Wright" appears tohave morphed into "I 2 Could B" at 9:51am Thu 5 Apr 12
www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/)

Whilst Robfm appears to have morphed into "Localboy88" at 6:28pm Thu 5 Apr 12
www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/)

I knew I shouldn't have gone back in, but I'm off for a week at the coast now to rehabilitate  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on April 05, 2012, 09:13:04 PM
Dear me.

Makes some of the stuff on here look like classic literature.

The threads start off sort of OK but within about a dozen posts you could just cut and paste the rest of it.

I had an account once but I'm reasonably sure it's not irony.

Is it?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Steve Wakefield on April 05, 2012, 09:29:26 PM
I knew I shouldn't have gone back in, but I'm off for a week at the coast now to rehabilitate  :crazy2:

What only a week :o have a good time away I hope the sun shines down on you.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on April 06, 2012, 08:40:52 AM
"Bobby Wright" appears tohave morphed into "I 2 Could B" at 9:51am Thu 5 Apr 12
[url=http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/]www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/[/url] ([url]http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/[/url])

Whilst Robfm appears to have morphed into "Localboy88" at 6:28pm Thu 5 Apr 12
[url=http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/]www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/[/url] ([url]http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/[/url])

I knew I shouldn't have gone back in, but I'm off for a week at the coast now to rehabilitate  :crazy2:


Didn't someone speculate that I 2 Could B is 20eyes, which would explain the venom.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Jean on April 06, 2012, 09:42:57 AM
Evidently we are all rabid Labour Party supporters. No we aren't!

 :hippy:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 06, 2012, 11:30:07 AM
....not me, nor Ph1C, nor Kohima, nor Mart (i should imagine!) - nor a whole host of others...

... but because we're not blind supporters of the current administration and have made public (and, from the reaction, apparently effective criticism), it suits the intellectually weak and opportune to label us as de facto Labour supporters.

Mind you, both parties seem to be doing such a good job of aping the worst excesses of the other, a little bit of confusion amongst the stupid and the desperate is bound to happen, eh?  :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'abbot boy' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on April 11, 2012, 03:15:27 PM
I wonder who Abbot Boy is.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9629402.It_s_David_v_Goliath_at_council_elections/)

I suspect it's "that pub man"

I doubt anyone is unaware of who "that pub man" is

Especially on such a dated thread.

Thankfully "that pub man" isn't up for election this time
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on April 11, 2012, 04:28:08 PM
Haha  ;D


Quote
"Best advice to Mrs Boyd is to take a long hard look at what she’s been hearing from the likes of the vile gentleman and understand that she is merely being used as yet another bullet in the gun he’s not man enough to fire himself."

Bobby and his mates need to make up their minds.  One week I'm a vile and discredited person shunned by all, but the next I'm controlling the actions of independent candidates in this years local elections.  It's fairly obvious that neither is true.

Anyhow, I don't think I'll be taking lectures on manhood from anyone hiding behind an Adver screen name  ;D

Thanks to the likes of Bluh, Bawden and Bobby, becoming 'vile' has been a very positive thing.  They and their henchtwits are slowly realising this, hence the recent increase in gusts of wind and piss from 'anonymous' online Onanists within the Adver Mastabatoryum who, I should point out, seem to be the only people in Swindon who jerk liberally when I give their strings a gentle pluck......

 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on April 11, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
Its a terrifying insight into how paranoid and deluded people have got about you and TS though, isn't it?

Kareen Boyd is a driven and independently minded person from what I've seen of her - and that tw@ expressing his poisonous opinions on the Adver is either stupid or trying a pathetic and transparent attempt to be manipulative and misleading - the Croft protest campaign was well underway before the people behind it were even aware of TS.

Its so funny that someone should be so in thrall to a party and a system that they can allow themselves to become so removed from reality.

In fact, for all those of us who've decided we'd like a change from the current status quo, regardless of our natural political allegiances, examples like him are fantastic news. They are all the proof any reader could want of the ethical and intellectual meltdown which has taken place amidst that grouping and the need for some sort of reform.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on April 11, 2012, 05:11:36 PM
Its a terrifying insight into how paranoid and deluded people have got about you and TS though, isn't it?

Some people are genuinely terrified of, and resistant to change, others want things to stay the way they are because they benefit directly from a politically anaerobic environment.  Perhaps if I hadn't moved to Swindon, and perhaps if Talkswindon hadn't started when it did, that the status quo may have lasted a couple more years, but in any event I doubt the lids on the worm can and pork barrel would have stayed on much longer and something like TS would have arrived anyway.

The Bobby Wrights of the town fit into the second group. They neither deluded or paranoid, but they are deliberately poisonous towards anything and anyone who threatens 'their' selfish view of things.


Kareen Boyd is a driven and independently minded person from what I've seen of her - and that tw@ expressing his poisonous opinions on the Adver is either stupid or trying a pathetic and transparent attempt to be manipulative and misleading - the Croft protest campaign was well underway before the people behind it were even aware of TS.

Yup.


Its so funny that someone should be so in thrall to a party and a system that they can allow themselves to become so removed from reality.

In thrall to themselves and their own selfishness. They deliberately confuse what is best for them with what 'is best for the town', and then work hard to create and maintain a system which continues to benefit them at the expense of others.  The most damaging disconnect from reality occurs when the influential convince themselves that the town cannot prosper without them and that the 'end' they desire justifies whatever 'means' they employ to satisfy their own desires. Their dreams become other peoples nightmares. See Croft, see Pickards fields, see Coate, see wifi, see Tabernacle stones, see the Eastern Development Area, ad infinitum.....


In fact, for all those of us who've decided we'd like a change from the current status quo, regardless of our natural political allegiances, examples like him are fantastic news. They are all the proof any reader could want of the ethical and intellectual meltdown which has taken place amidst that grouping and the need for some sort of reform.

Absolutely :)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on April 11, 2012, 09:56:39 PM
I 2 Could B/ Robfm / Bobby Wright

All agreeing in perfect harmony?

Or all the same person?
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on April 12, 2012, 08:10:48 AM
Well 20Eyes didn't like the fact he couldn't just rant and instead of debating would just shout over them or would keep repeating his point when his posts had to be approved prior to posting.

Robfm flounced off just before last years elections because he was subjected to some serious cross-examination.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: A Very Nice Lady on April 12, 2012, 12:53:01 PM
I 2 Could B/ Robfm / Bobby Wright

All agreeing in perfect harmony?

Or all the same person?
[url]http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/[/url] ([url]http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/[/url])


Hello
I have signed up to this forum after coming across many references to it on the Swindon Advertiser online forum.
There are all sorts of comments and opinion's flying around on the SA online forum.

I have been on here as a guest and I do not see what all the fuss is about. All I see is debate, opinions being shared and a mixture of what usually goes on pre election time.  All political parties behave in the same way in the run up to an election, that's my view anyway.

and as Thatcher once said '' I love argument, I love debate. I don't expect anyone just to sit there and agree with me, that's not their job''

So back to the point in hand. I have posted on the SA online forum and I have been asked by a poster on there 'which one of the 15 are you '. Not quite sure what was meant by this. The poster also referred to this forum as being a pro - Labour platform and I was told if I signed up that I wouldn't last very long on here.

Well here I am!
I vote Conservative,  I am not here to judge anyone, or will I take anything personally. I am here to contribute and debate from time to time and to find out what it is like to be a poster for myself.

Thank you for allowing  me to join

J
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tea Boy on April 12, 2012, 01:03:05 PM
Hi AVNL.... Hope you don't mind the acronym, I post from my smart phone so a long name takes forever to type...

This forum isn't pro this or that. Just expect debate and any outrageous or questionable opinions to be rigorously questioned.

As the forum says.... Beware live ammuntion is used O0
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: A Very Nice Lady on April 12, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
Hi AVNL.... Hope you don't mind the acronym, I post from my smart phone so a long name takes forever to type...

This forum isn't pro this or that. Just expect debate and any outrageous or questionable opinions to be rigorously questioned.

As the forum says.... Beware live ammuntion is used O0

Hi,
Thank You Tea Boy.
I think I will enjoy it here and I agree with what I have come across so far isn't pro this or that,  It is a forum for
debate and questions to be questioned etc.
I saw the live ammunition bit which says it all really!  If you are of nervous disposition then maybe this isn't the forum for you!

Its about taking the rough with the smooth. That's life.
I guess by reading what's on the SW online forum - it comes across as if there have been people who have taking things very personally hence the reason they are spitting feathers on the SW forum. They being people who once posted here.

Well I'm off to work now, but I will come back later.

Thank you
J

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on April 12, 2012, 01:22:57 PM
Hello AVNL

Welcome to TS  O0
I hope you enjoy being a member of this forum and I look forward
to reading your posts  :wink:

Chav
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on April 12, 2012, 03:29:31 PM
Hello
I have signed up to this forum after coming across many references to it on the Swindon Advertiser online forum.
There are all sorts of comments and opinion's flying around on the SA online forum.

I have been on here as a guest and I do not see what all the fuss is about. All I see is debate, opinions being shared and a mixture of what usually goes on pre election time.  All political parties behave in the same way in the run up to an election, that's my view anyway.

and as Thatcher once said '' I love argument, I love debate. I don't expect anyone just to sit there and agree with me, that's not their job''

So back to the point in hand. I have posted on the SA online forum and I have been asked by a poster on there 'which one of the 15 are you '. Not quite sure what was meant by this. The poster also referred to this forum as being a pro - Labour platform and I was told if I signed up that I wouldn't last very long on here.

Ah, bless them, the attendant irony in one of the 'Adver 5' asking 'which of the TS 15 are you?' is self evident and inextricably related to a unhealthy mental fascination with, and compensation for, size. 

I'm pretty sure that the multiple-persona's of the 'Bobby Wrights' etc of the Adver comments section suffer some confusion between their own 'size', (intellectual and otherwise), and the 'virtual' size of both the small part of the www they seek to dominate, (the Adver comments section), and venues like Talkswindon.org where they find their efforts to dominate other users and the forum itself rendered impotent because other members do not tolerate their behaviour or methods.

Like small and aggressive dogs, the 'Bobby's', (let's call them that to avoid any confusion with the real Bob Wright), puff up to make themselves look bigger than they really are, and the method they use to 'puff up' is to create multiple persona's, (creating a small dog pack you might say), which are then used to surround, harrass and gang-bang anyone expressing a view of which the Bobby's disagree.  Within the Adver comments section only two or three people using multiple persona's are responsible for driving most, if not all of the genuine regular posters away from the site.  That a couple of Bobby's are driving new users away from the Adver site just highlights their own selfish, dog-like behaviour - 'Woof, Woof, The Adver site is mine!, Go away, go away, Woof!' - before resuming their previous growling at the other Bobby's.

They're pretty dumb because in trying to 'flame' Talkswindon from within the Adver site they are actually achieving the exact opposite of what they want.  They would love the Adver site, (inhabited and dominated by them), to be the only online discussion venue in town, but in behaving as they do they are guaranteeing that Talkswindon remains the only venue in the Borough where this is possible, enjoyable and useful.  It's sad really, Swindon would benefit from a greater variety of online venues, but that doesn't bother the Bobby's, as long as they're having their 'fun' they don't care much about anything or anybody else.

I could deliver a lecture about 'size', and the hows and whys of the members:readers dynamics, but I there's no need to belittle the Bobby's any further, (and I can't be arsed to respond to their comments any further than I already have), except to say this:

"Dear Bobby

Size doesn't really matter when it comes to the size of a forum or other online media - a relatively small number of contributors can interest, amuse and keep a much larger number of readers engaged.  The Swindon Advertiser has a very small number of staff yet has a daily readership of several thousand.

Now, just to be very clear Bobby, my above comments refer solely to the size of forums and other online media. When your missus tells you that 'size doesn't matter'......

....she's trying to make you feel better about yourself. :) " 


Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on April 12, 2012, 03:32:59 PM
Hello and welcome AVNL!

I agree with what teaboy said the site isn't pro/anti any particular party, if Labour or the LibDems were in charge now I'm sure they'd be getting just as hard a time as the Tories (it's what always happens to ruling parties).

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: swindoncentric on April 12, 2012, 03:55:25 PM
A friendly welcome to TVNL!

Prepare for healthy, vibrant, democratic debate.

And on TS, all views are welcomed!

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on April 12, 2012, 05:07:43 PM
"So back to the point in hand. I have posted on the SA online forum and I have been asked by a poster on there 'which one of the 15 are you '. Not quite sure what was meant by this. The poster also referred to this forum as being a pro - Labour platform and I was told if I signed up that I wouldn't last very long on here."

Hello Very Nice Lady.
I am one of the Adver 5 (I Too)

I have no allegiance to any political party, but a negative comment about money wasted on WiFi is enough to get  a "loony lefty" tag from a certain Adver commenter.

You will have a much better debate on this site and nobody will try to contact your employer if you say something they don't like.  O0

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mr Nosey on April 12, 2012, 05:30:16 PM

You will have a much better debate on this site and nobody will try to contact your employer if you say something they don't like.  O0

Unless you are employed by Swindon Borough Council, Swindon Commercial Services or Thamesdown Transport, (which are wholly owned by Swindon Borough Council).

If you are employed by either, and dare to say something which Mr Bluh's political administration does not approve of, you can expect Cllr Williams and his colleagues to do their utmost to find you and monitor everything you do and say until they have gathered enough material on you to make you malleable. Then they will pounce without warning and deliberately deny you the opportunity to gather your thoughts or discuss your/their actions with an appropriate representative present.

If you don't work for any of the above you have nothing to worry about :)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tea Boy on April 12, 2012, 05:51:42 PM

You will have a much better debate on this site and nobody will try to contact your employer if you say something they don't like.  O0

Unless you are employed by Swindon Borough Council, Swindon Commercial Services or Thamesdown Transport, (which are wholly owned by Swindon Borough Council).

If you are employed by either, and dare to say something which Mr Bluh's political administration does not approve of, you can expect Cllr Williams and his colleagues to do their utmost to find you and monitor everything you do and say until they have gathered enough material on you to make you malleable. Then they will pounce without warning and deliberately deny you the opportunity to gather your thoughts or discuss your/their actions with an appropriate representative present.

If you don't work for any of the above you have nothing to worry about :)

Wot .... The SBC thought police. Haven't found me out yet.... Luckilyso far, everytime 'they ' try to out people at SCS they get it sadly wrong.

Cllr Williams needs to get his facts right rather than jumping to the wrong conclusions.

Like the rest of that sorry shower the sooner the incompetent ones ate found out for what they are

 The better
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on April 12, 2012, 06:38:51 PM
The current comment on the Adver site demonstrates Robfm trying to track my current employment.
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/?action=add_comment (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9632311.The_countdown_to_elections_begins___/?action=add_comment)

He has also substituted "bobby" with "bob".

He must know full well the significance of doing so.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on April 12, 2012, 06:43:19 PM
If you don't work for any of the above you have nothing to worry about.

I think we still have something to worry about.........
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Weebleman on April 12, 2012, 06:55:15 PM
A friendly welcome to TVNL!

Prepare for healthy, vibrant, democratic debate.

And on TS, all views are welcomed!

Just don't mention the war  :)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on April 12, 2012, 07:15:38 PM
welcome avnl, from the senior vnl poster, all our women posters are very nice, so you should fit in.   

Mind, we do have that chav sometimes. 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on April 12, 2012, 08:23:37 PM
welcome avnl, from the senior vnl poster, all our women posters are very nice, so you should fit in.   

Mind, we do have that chav sometimes.

Oi !  :2funny:

Yes I'm afraid there is the Chav.
I am a nice person really and so is muggins and the other lady posters.
The men posters are OK too.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: swindoncentric on April 12, 2012, 09:26:39 PM
A friendly welcome to TVNL!

Prepare for healthy, vibrant, democratic debate.

And on TS, all views are welcomed!

Just don't mention the war  :)

Don't tell him Pike!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on April 12, 2012, 10:50:00 PM

Mentioning the war, any war in fact, is fine.

What upsets the cretins is when they do something, or behave in a way which reminds you of something done by Hitlers political party activists...and you point out that one reminds you of the other.

Apparently some politicians consider it 'vile' to notice and pass comment on them when they behave like right bastards. That it's the Right Wing doing both the behaving and the complaining seems historically ironic to me....

...Like Peter Sutcliffe complaining about being called a hammer wielding prostitute murdering nutcase.

Still, as long as we all do what they tell us, and not do as they do, I'm sure we'll all be fine :)

 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: A Very Nice Lady on April 22, 2012, 02:14:56 PM
Hello Geoff,
May I just ask the following :

This web forum has many many members and guests and has been running for a very long time from what I can make of it.
If Cllrs  and others have an issue with this forum, why have they not tried to engage with members of the public by creating their own forum?

I am sure I read something a long time ago in the SA that some Cllrs were thinking about doing this?  please quote me if I am wrong.
I will have a look in the SA archive to try and establish who it was and why it has not happened.

This is obviously a very popular site and certainly thriving.
I would just like to back track and see who came up with the idea of  a council forum and why this did not happen! 

J
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on April 22, 2012, 03:18:23 PM
If Cllrs  and others have an issue with this forum, why have they not tried to engage with members of the public by creating their own forum?

Because they only want to engage with very specific MOP on very specific issues and want absolute editorial control. Also they engage firms like Digital City for their IT aspirations. Their version of engagement does not require responses.

It'll never happen, they won't even broadcast what they get up to in the Council Chamber which in my view should absolutely be in the public domain.

Could be done for a fraction for what was spunked on WiFi.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Terry Reynolds on May 07, 2012, 05:58:00 PM
With reference to the life of the adver, has anyody else today bought the adver, 42p and its full of the football club and nothing else, I thought, when I picked it up from the front door, that it was a flyer for someone, and then realised it was the adver, and they have also now cancelled out the 'your say' comments on the web site.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on May 07, 2012, 06:25:37 PM
" and they have also now cancelled out the 'your say' comments on the web site."

Does this mean that if we now want a letter to appear in the Adver we have to resort to pen, paper, and postage?

Or is it the demise of "Your Say", limiting comments to the Adver comments forum?

If so, has Robfm been told  ;D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on May 07, 2012, 06:32:24 PM
Have a heart Ko, I can't stand football, but they do have something to crow about at present. And what else was gogin on in this appalling weather - except the Dawn Chorus event and the start of the Swindon Literature Festival of course.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on May 07, 2012, 06:58:38 PM
Have a heart Ko, I can't stand football,

You're safe in Swindon then.

C'mon you Blues.

Just saying.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Terry Reynolds on May 07, 2012, 07:46:04 PM
with ref to the letters, you can still send them in either by letter (50p stamp), or email, but you cant now read what has been printed or is for publication in future copies. just sems a bit off, or perhaps they dont want to let you know whats coming !!.
I lost the footbal habit when they engaged that tank called rudduck to play for them......... ;D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on May 08, 2012, 07:59:39 AM
Ko, you can also send a letter for publication by email...........
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on May 10, 2012, 07:48:23 AM
Ko, you can also send a letter for publication by email...........

didn't he say that M?

with ref to the letters, you can still send them in either by letter (50p stamp), or email,
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on May 10, 2012, 07:50:41 AM
Whoops so he did. What would I do without you putting me right Richard?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on May 10, 2012, 09:37:29 AM
Whoops so he did. What would I do without you putting me right Richard?

Touche M!!
Title: 'bobby wright' strikes again as TalkSwindon ?
Post by: I Could Do That on July 12, 2012, 09:08:44 AM
Looks like he's at it again ?
This time under the login of TalkSwindon ?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9811281.Young_high_flyer_to_take_on_Tomlinson_in_North_Swindon/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9811281.Young_high_flyer_to_take_on_Tomlinson_in_North_Swindon/)

I guess mimicking is also a sign of flattery
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on July 12, 2012, 09:23:20 AM
Calling himself "Talkswindon" on the Adver web-site could get us all a bad name.

Just when I was relishing the name, "vile."
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mickraker on July 12, 2012, 09:43:35 AM
Publicity is publicity and political smearing is political. Out of curiosity people will search out talkswindon as a curiosity and if you ask me this comment is cute.

 "Jibberjab says...
7:45pm Wed 11 Jul 12
 
Justin Tomlinson said: “I very much hope that Mark will plan to focus on a positive and constructive campaign and avoid the typical personal and nasty attacks that he’s so well known for. I’m focused on making sure I do my very best job for my fellow local residents and we will all see what 2015 will bring.”
 
Tomlinson having a personal and rather nasty attack about Dempsey for having personal and rather nasty attacks on others.

pot kettle black.....”

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on July 12, 2012, 10:15:21 AM
Penned a short note to the Adver webbies:

Quote from: Geoff Reid
This poster has no relationship with Talkswindon or authority from Talkswindon to speak on its behalf.

I would request that the Adver extends the same courtesy to Talkswindon as we would to the Adver, (if a similar deception were to occur at Talkswindon - with a member claiming to be 'Swindon Advertiser), and change the name of the poster to something other than 'Talkswindon'.

We are not requesting that the post be removed in its entirety or the content of the post altered in any way, just objecting to the posters deceitful use of 'Talkswindon' as a user name.

Thanks

Geoff Reid

It's not worth getting wound up about. There will be a reckoning and payback will, as they say, be a bitch.  :wink:

It doesn't matter who is pretending to be 'Talkswindon' on the adver, a lie is still a lie and the telling of the lie destroys any serious points contained within their post.

It's another instance of an 'anti-TS' troll trying to initiate a battle of wits but has turning up to the battle unarmed.  Again.

Personally speaking, I like a good bunfight and am pleased to provide a level playing field/venue for this to happen, but I remain constantly disappointed by low level of self-belief and behaviour exhibited by those who should be, if they really believed what they were saying and doing to be right and honourable, defending and promoting their actions and attitudes.

Is there a correlation between rising numbers of figurative lily-livers and metaphorical white feathers?

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on July 12, 2012, 03:47:33 PM
Oh dear Olly has got his knickers in twist over on the adver. Claiming that he's never hidden behind anyone's identity  ;D. 

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on July 12, 2012, 04:02:04 PM
Oh dear Olly has got his knickers in twist over on the adver. Claiming that he's never hidden behind anyone's identity  ;D.

I haven't been back to the comments so I don't know in what context he's publishing a denial, but....

....Olive says a lot of other things which are demonstrably untrue and, having read enough of his rabid whitterings to reach my own conclusions about his credibility, I take anything he says with a serving spoonful of Sodium Chloride. 

The singular thing which interests me about Olive is whether anyone takes him seriously.

I don't, and thankfully the electorate didn't either :)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Des Moffatt on July 12, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
I read TS daily and post occasionally. Long may it function as it does now.
Should put this on the Housing Transfer threads somewhere but during that period TS was the only place I could get the truth about the finances of the sell out heard.
The actual costs of borrowing the HRA buy out funds was an average of 3.26% on £138.6 Million when at one time people were being told it would be 10.6% on £145 million. I don’t expect a free ride on TS nor should or does anyone, ask Ann Snelgave. The local paper is obsessed with the politicians currently in charge of the Council and Councillors like me seldom get a hearing. TS is always there, it costs nothing, it’s not censored and no-one is forced to read it.
Thank you Talkswindon.
Cllr Des Moffatt Rodbourne Cheney
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Steve Wakefield on July 12, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
Mark Dempsey PPC had a good time today, he looked relaxed and cheerful meeting people. If the Libdems go into spiteful meltdown and clash with Tory grandees. Mark and Anne Snelgrove PPC will  get an opportunity sooner than 2015 to ask the people to choose.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Terry Reynolds on July 12, 2012, 09:14:57 PM
I know its old 'wounds' but if the party cannot put anybody better then the dreaded anne get your gun then its a bad world we live in........... :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on July 12, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
That particular Adver Thread appears to have turned into "Ollie's Column"

Thing is...... nobody actually named him?

He's just had multiple rants and hints that people have had cars keyed because they've disagreed with TalkSwindon.

Not unlike a certain barmen making a completely ficticious claim that I frequented his pub and caused public disorder.

Are they related?



I also just realised I was put in the frame  :embarassed:

Bobfm , says...
7:37am Thu 12 Jul 12

Talkswindon aka mr Blackwell aka I 2 could do that....is there no end to your pseudonyms??



20 Eyes / Mr Blackwell's other login was "I 2 Could B"

Perhaps I should have a rant .......?

Nah!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on July 12, 2012, 11:44:25 PM
That particular Adver Thread appears to have turned into "Ollie's Column"

Thing is...... nobody actually named him?

He's just had multiple rants and hints that people have had cars keyed because they've disagreed with TalkSwindon.


Olive never lets the truth get in the way of a good smearing, Talkswindon, Oakhurst Residents, ORA committee members, Gorsehill Residents, just about anyone who has, is, or seems willing to scrutinise the actions of Conservative and liberal Councillors in fact.

It's a particularly stupid form of bullying fascism really: If you're not with him, you must be against him, and if you're against him you'll be the recipient of the same behaviour he's been displaying on the Adver.  His Father in law (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9759447.New_man_at_Swindon_Chamber_of_Commerce/) must be so proud of his daughters spouse, and I bet he can't wait to induct Olive into the power structure of the chamber of commerce and Federation of Small Businesses, where I'm sure he will be quickly recognised as a prized asset. Or indeed not. 

I don't know what prospective members of his proposed Priory Vale Residents Association will make of him, and I doubt he's given any thought to the notion that his current behaviour is likely to influence whether PVRA makes it out of Olive's womb alive, let alone survive in the political and community toxicity he's creating in Priory Vale.  It's never a good idea for expectant mothers to take a shit in their own birthing pool but Olive seems intent on pouring effluvia out of every orifice.

Without bothering to go for another look I'm willing to bet that liberal doses of innuendo, hints, url's and bold suggestion are being applied in the Adver comments, but actual facts, are a tad thin on the ground?  This is just business as usual for him, but I would hope that he has, if there's even a grain of truth to his claims of cars being 'keyed', (which I doubt in the first place and find very hard to believe there's any connection with Talkswindon in the second ), already reported what he knows to the police? and if not, why not?

Read what Olive says carefully, it's rare that he has the nerve to make a definite statement or allegation against a named individual and even rarer that he produces any facts.

Reading Olive is like reading a Lib Dem leaflet - it might seem feasible on a quick glance but any perception of credibility vanishes on close inspection.  When I do bother to read what he's said I usually play bullshit-bingo with it - Unless I've run out of toilet paper.

BTW, anyone else noticed that Bobby Wright seems to have adopted almost identical literary mannerism's, 'style' and phrases used by Andy Harrison on his facebook page.  Either a very clever piece of impersonation or incredibly dumb-arsed ex-councillor IMVBHO.

Both he and Harrison are absent from Talkswindon with good reason, and I think that is what lies at the very root of their joint obsession with it.

Yes, I know I'm being derisory about the pair of them, but experience has taught me that it's fairly useless indulging them in a discussion because neither has much interest in, or use for the truth and both find the concepts of rationality and proportionality a bit difficult to master. Perhaps because both of them share an unhealthy obsession with this forum and some of its members.

Anyway, grab popcorn, enjoy their whitterings when they can be heard amongst all the background noise and, if things get a bit quiet, give them a poke now and again to liven things up.


Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tea Boy on July 13, 2012, 07:20:30 AM
I do particularly like Olive's PVRA facebook posts.

Read them and you could swear that he's not linked to Swindon Tories at all, just that he's a concerned resident.

Just gotta love the way he talks about Toby Elliot and Emma Farma-wotsa-name in the third person. As if he doesn't actually know them personally.

Must be great talking to each other "over the pillow" if thats what it's really like in their house.
Now I wonder why he's doing that, should he just admit hi relationship up front. Surely being hubby shouldn't preclude Emma from still helping, unless he sees and advantage in appearing seperate from her.

As for the car keying, seems a threat came from Twitter. With strangely enough some one using another's name in a post. Hence why I find a facebook residents association wrong. A hall with people who can be seen to be how they are has to be more legitimate than a website with anonymity built in.

Especially if it claims to represent the other residents of an area
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on July 13, 2012, 08:45:16 AM
I don't know about the web presence community association Tea - maybe someone was stood in the foyer of our local centre when I arrived on the Titanic about a fortnight ago, still fuming from yet ANOTHER car parked across the dropped curb, where I, a normally placid and very law abiding citizen, hair on end, thumping tables, threated to 'key' the next vehicle I saw across it.

You know how these things are misunderstood and apportioned to quite the wrong thing. Now racking my brain to remember who was there and who could have overheard it and who would repeat it - to who(m) with the wrong story.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on July 13, 2012, 09:04:06 AM
I don't know about the web presence community association Tea - maybe someone was stood in the foyer of our local centre when I arrived on the Titanic about a fortnight ago, still fuming from yet ANOTHER car parked across the dropped curb, where I, a normally placid and very law abiding citizen, hair on end, thumping tables, threated to 'key' the next vehicle I saw across it.

You know how these things are misunderstood and apportioned to quite the wrong thing. Now racking my brain to remember who was there and who could have overheard it and who would repeat it - to who(m) with the wrong story.

Ah, so the choice of identity for Olive's 'Talkswindon' car-keyers has grown overnight and is now:


1. An indignant Muggins, muttering darkly to herself after finding disability facilities blocked by an unthinking/uncaring/oblivious driver.

and

2. A threat to key a car, made on Twitter, from one Twitter User to another, and sweet-fanny-all to do with Talkswindon.

 
Once again Olive is heavy on innuendo but light on facts, but is even he repugnant and stupid enough to take a quote from Muggins and foment it into: "Penhill Grandmother Stabs Driver In Face In Mobility Scooter Riot" or, more in keeping with his current witch smeller pursuivant persona: "B,b,b,b,b,b,b,.....burn the Witch!" :)

Probably.

Right, I'm off to foment some political unrest in the East....
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on July 13, 2012, 11:25:31 AM
 

...and, while fomenting political unrest in the East I had an interesting conversation regarding Olive's current smear campaigns.  The general perception being that Ollie, having made himself unpopular with almost every societal group apart from his own, (rapidly shrinking), circle of political colleagues, seems intent on exercising his own brand of censorship by exerting pressure on people to 'condone' or 'disavow' people he doesn't approve of - essentially putting pressure on the friends, family and colleagues of anyone expressing an opinion he wants to suppress. 

As I said last night, it's a form of bullying fascism although the tactic is usually self defeating because, as we've recently seen with Kareen Boyd in the Croft and the Oakhurst Residents Association in the North West, it often achieves exactly the opposite effect than the one desired as the people who are attacked in this way harden their resolve to prosecute their own campaign effectively, and are therefore less likely to be subsequently deflected but more subtle means of political manipulation.

It's also apparent that rational people understand why the Olive's and Bobbie's reach deep into their underpants for their regular dung-flinging soirree's at Talkswindon and its members. Like a pair of fevered chimpanzee's they hurl faeces at all and sundry in the hope that at least some of it sticks :)

One of Olive's current tactics, enthusiastically supported by 'Bobby Wright', (who is himself doing a passable job of impersonating Andy Harrison), is to try to create the innuendo-led perception, that comments posted from various url's, (internet addresses), which I own should be attributed to me personally.  I'm told that this approach didn't fly too well in the Twittersphere, so the tactic was then modified to describe Talkswindon itself as a haven for homophobics and that comments he describes as homophobic were published on Talkswindon, by a talkswindon member.  This is demonstrably untrue, but being untrue hasn't stopped Olive from suggesting it is.

As for attributing things to the 'owners' of websites, Olive and Bobby know very well that 'owning' internet addresses, (url's), is almost identical to being the registered keeper of a vehicle.  One person may well be the registered keeper of a vehicle, but that does not mean that the registered keeper was at the wheel when the vehicle goes past a speed camera at 100mph or, to give a more extreme example, that the registered keeper of a hackney carriage must be responsible for sexually assaulting a female passenger. 

I don't care what the Olives and Bobbies say about me, I don't have a reputation to protect, (apart from the 'Vile' one awarded to me by them which I'm quite chuffed with), but the lengths to which both will go to try to discredit other TS members either gives a solid indication of how good other TS members are at holding to account and scrutinising elected members, their activist supporters....

....or that both of them harbour a mentally unhealthy obsession with the Vile Gentleman and anyone he talks to or assists.  Maybe it's both, in which case both need to get a life away from a keyboard.

In any event, and to paraphrase Justin Tomlinson: "I'm not hearing what Ollie and Bobbie are saying on any doorsteps other than their own".

I urge Olive and Bobbie to continue - I cannot think of a better way of publicising the Black Heartedness of Bluhliganism in Swindon  :clap:

 

 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Steve Wakefield on July 14, 2012, 09:01:51 AM
Quote
...and, while fomenting political unrest in the East

Are you exciting?
I feel sorry for the person who can't get genuinely excited about his work. Not only will he never be satisfied, but he will never achieve anything worthwhile
 :azn:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on July 17, 2012, 03:00:54 PM
Aw bless  :crazy2:

How many people would choose a dated (6 day old) topic on the Adver comments pages as a venue to sit and wait for a reply from a prospective parliamentary candidate?   :popcorn:  :idiot2:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9811281.Young_high_flyer_to_take_on_Tomlinson_in_North_Swindon/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9811281.Young_high_flyer_to_take_on_Tomlinson_in_North_Swindon/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on July 17, 2012, 03:15:39 PM
Good grief, I've just seen all of the comments, I can't believe that the arguments are still going on.

Madder than a box of frogs springs to mind!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on July 17, 2012, 03:42:31 PM
I think frogs get a raw deal.

The tadpoles get attacked by fish.
The froglets get eaten by birds and even spiders.
The adult frogs get attacked by cats or run over.
My neighbour thinks they're poisonous

They are quite harmless and quite interesting (the frogs. Not my neighbours)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tea Boy on July 17, 2012, 06:51:17 PM
Madder than a box of frogs springs to mind!

I've just read the comments section from the latest backwards.....

And I think the gorgons got it spot on

I think Oliver Donachie needs to step back from the spade cos that's a whacking great hole he's digging for himself.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on July 17, 2012, 07:42:22 PM
Quote
I think Oliver Donachie needs to step back from the spade cos that's a whacking great hole he's digging for himself.

Whilst many suspect that's who it is, nobody (apart from the man himself) actually knows that's who's behind these personas though, do they?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Chav on July 17, 2012, 08:20:50 PM
I think frogs get a raw deal.

The tadpoles get attacked by fish.
The froglets get eaten by birds and even spiders.
The adult frogs get attacked by cats or run over.
My neighbour thinks they're poisonous

They are quite harmless and quite interesting (the frogs. Not my neighbours)
Not to mention the old lady who swallowed a fly !
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Beale on July 17, 2012, 09:38:53 PM
Quote
I think Oliver Donachie needs to step back from the spade cos that's a whacking great hole he's digging for himself.

Whilst many suspect that's who it is, nobody (apart from the man himself) actually knows that's who's behind these personas though, do they?

Perhaps Tea Boy needs to use "AKA Oliver Donachie"? :popcorn:

The joys of unverified internet logins?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: bobwright on July 17, 2012, 11:27:17 PM
There are times and places where revealing ones true identity could be dangerous for an individual and those who are close to them. Contributing to the Advertiser does not seem to be one of those situations so it says much more about the individual who has to hide behind a false name.

Intially I thought it sad that someone would use the pseudonym 'bobby wright' now that I have given it a bit more thought perhaps my great grandfather and father could be chuffed that someone has used their names.
Title: Idle Curiosity or How Desperate
Post by: I Could Do That on July 22, 2012, 11:23:26 AM
I wonder how much longer this thread might last.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9811281.Young_high_flyer_to_take_on_Tomlinson_in_North_Swindon/?action=add_comment (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9811281.Young_high_flyer_to_take_on_Tomlinson_in_North_Swindon/?action=add_comment)

I reckon another week.

Any other estimates?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on July 22, 2012, 11:55:21 AM
erm.....who cares?  but it does seem like a cheaper alternative than sending them to a mental health day centre :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on November 01, 2012, 05:32:39 PM
Has "Jason Reeve" gone overtly political or is Olive Dognasty up to his old tricks again?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10018841.Police_hopefuls_differ_over_extra_cops_cash/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10018841.Police_hopefuls_differ_over_extra_cops_cash/)

More here
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10013989.Swindon_given_chance_to_win_City_Deal_from_Government/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10013989.Swindon_given_chance_to_win_City_Deal_from_Government/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on November 01, 2012, 05:48:53 PM

Bashing the judiciary was also a particular favourite of 20 Eye's, mind you,  there's not more than a fag papers difference between the tactic and behaviour of 20 or Olive, so it doesn't matter much which is which or whether it's neither imho  :)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on November 01, 2012, 07:45:21 PM
I think frogs get a raw deal

You are joking, they get feckin shedloads of Euros to prop up their bloody peasant farmers making their stinky cheese in their unfathomable toilets.

They can stick their crappy skinny chips up their bums as well.

Or, have I misunderstood again?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on November 01, 2012, 10:58:31 PM
Um... Yes I think you missed the point, but raised some other interesting perspective  ;D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mickraker on November 02, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
Um... Yes I think you missed the point, but raised some other interesting perspective  ;D

Wonder if Ollie D will be commenting on the Torun bus gate comments made by an Oliver Donachie chairman of the PVRA  :-\
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on November 02, 2012, 02:44:31 PM

Wonder if Ollie D will be commenting on the Torun bus gate comments made by an Oliver Donachie chairman of the PVRA  :-\

By PVRA, do you mean the Priory Vale residents association as set up by Olive Donachie, and run by Olive Donachie for the apparently exclusive political use of himself and wife/partner Cllr Faramarzi, with carefully orchestrated guest appearances by Fionualala Foley & Co?

If so I encourage readers to visit www pvra.info* to have a look for themselves.  It's as much a genuine residents association as I am an olympic pole vaulter  :wink:


It's an overtly political blog with pretensions towards creating a fanbase of residents in thrall of Olive 'n' Emma, (not likely), but let's surprise Olive anyway by doubling his readership in one afternoon :)


* Insert your own dot after the www   :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on November 02, 2012, 03:16:35 PM
Wow!
Checked out the website.

Vomit inducing, pass the bucket
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on November 02, 2012, 03:17:47 PM
Checked out the website.

Readership doubled  ;D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on November 02, 2012, 04:28:24 PM
On the face of it, without digging too deep, it would look like a reasonable web page for a residents association. 

However it does state that it is not Political but reserves the right to work with any policial party to get the best for the community it serves - my interpretation of their words - that's legal -just! Providing it's not too attached to the political party and it would be hard to prove otherwise if the Donachies/Famarazzi's are holding the keys to the web site.

And I hope that they realise that even if they are not a registered charity, they are expected to behave like one, especially if raising money. I could look up the section of the latest Charity Act if need be.

I also notice that they keep the right to 'meet' via email etc. but there is no clause to say that the minutes of that will be published right away, or indeed if minutes will be kept of such meetings and how any member would know that was happening on any given month. And who would want to with an embryonic community (or five) like Prioy Vale.  In my opinion, residents would be better served by each neighbourhood having it's own community association, with maybe a Priory Vale Forum.

Some of the wording is a little flowery to that of a usual constitution. i.e. Dissolution Clause 'hoping it would not be used'

I was interested in this sentence Under the 'Equal Opportunties' Clause

"The Association will challenge any remarks or behaviour that cause offence and makes some people feel unwelcome"

Wouldn't fancy your chances if you turned up then, Geoff.

Equal opps is about so much more than Race, Religion, Ability and Gender.

I'm off to see if there is a facebook page!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on November 02, 2012, 05:27:48 PM
Had a look at the web site ... it is a bit odd... not sure it's objectives are very clear.

But... it has a letter from Cllr Foley!

What a surprise.. I haven't seen many of these...

One for the antiques roadshow of the future perhaps?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on November 02, 2012, 07:20:37 PM
If so I encourage readers to visit www pvra.info* to have a look for themselves.  It's as much a genuine residents association as I am an olympic pole vaulter

That'll be a substantial feckin pole, but it's good to have a hobby.

No offence.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on November 03, 2012, 05:44:12 AM
If so I encourage readers to visit www pvra.info* to have a look for themselves.  It's as much a genuine residents association as I am an olympic pole vaulter

That'll be a substantial feckin pole, but it's good to have a hobby.

No offence.


No....this is a substantial feckin Pole :)

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01438/Lech-Walesa_1438541c.jpg)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Mart on November 03, 2012, 08:24:46 PM
Ohhhhh Oohhhh Oo Ooh
Slowly I picked my life up
Now I go and pick the wife up
She works in Marks And Spencer’s
La la la Lech Walesa

When Cupid threw her last dart
You, girl, were still in my heart
I love you more than ever
Even though I married Trevor


http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/back-in-the-dhss/reflections-in-a-flat/ (http://www.chrisrand.com/hmhb/back-in-the-dhss/reflections-in-a-flat/)

About 5:50 in.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on December 03, 2012, 08:08:42 PM
Lawdy lawdy.

It would appear that Olive is owed an apology and he only has one login after all
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10083031.The_curtain_falls_on_town_Big_Arts_Day/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10083031.The_curtain_falls_on_town_Big_Arts_Day/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on May 29, 2013, 09:53:52 PM
Guess who has resurfaced after a long absence and immediately launches into an attack on Kareen Boyd?

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10450376.Council_chief_in_community_call_to_arms/#commentsList (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10450376.Council_chief_in_community_call_to_arms/#commentsList)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on May 29, 2013, 10:33:24 PM
Pfff! I'm pretty sure that the tiresome twat quotient which renders the Adver comments function virtually pointless is no more than a small handful of people with multiple log ins.

I'd hope that Kareen would see the vitriol of such an ineffectual person as an adver troll as a compliment! The obvious fixation also makes it pretty obvious that they're almost certainly a serving conservative councilor (if not 'close to' a councilor  :wink: ) - and such posts show how hurtful they find the exposure of the truth...
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on May 30, 2013, 11:35:44 AM
It is all a bit puerile and ignores the fact the I and others were only following the instructions of our then Old Town and Lawn WCs Bawden, Mattock and Foley.

These instructions were that if we ( constituents ) wanted info then it was DIY.

I believe that the modern 21st councillor would see it as a key part of their role to engage with and answer questions from their constituents.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: OTTed on May 30, 2013, 03:03:46 PM
As someone who has been repeatedly promised answers to questions by council committees ..... which rarely, if ever, appear....it seems that FOI is often my only recourse. And I agree that I have been previously encouraged down this route by sitting councillors.

Actually I rarely use it because I am a busy bee. But it begs another question....

why is the information not to hand?  In most cases information should be easy to answer if the council had SAP or even a fairly juvenile way of measuring progress. Or if officers and cabinet members were measuring performance by normal management conditions.  Occasionally I follow the log of FOI requests as pass through from the website, very few of the requests can be seen in any way vexious. And in many cases if the officer or councillor had fronted up with a fair, believable estimation at the point of first contact,.....well the request would not need to be formalised.

One FOI I did note that Swindon Council could not answer was a request as to how many FOIs had SBC raised on themselves. Amazing, but they did not see fit to measure this.  Given that the FOIs that I know have been self raised seem to take a long time and rarely to provide conclusive answers,........well then SBC are causing the biggest waste of money and might consider curtailing their own activity?

As for Bobby Wright [who ever the vexious simpleton may be] is that really the best way to conduct politics. I look forward to a more inclusive and cooperative version of politics come my version of a 'velvet positive change in attitude'.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on May 30, 2013, 03:25:53 PM

One FOI I did note that Swindon Council could not answer was a request as to how many FOIs had SBC raised on themselves. Amazing, but they did not see fit to measure this.


Probably(?) SBC legal has either found a form of words which circumvents the question [how many FOI's it has raised against itself] or had coached it's officers on how to submit an FOI without their status as an officer of the council being recordable.

In any event, SBC's FOI department could very easily compare the names of all FOI applicants and compare it against a list of SBC officers.  Of course they don't even need to do this because they know damn well who submitted which FOI.

I suggest you have at your fingertips yet more examples of SBC's FOI misfeasance and malfeasance.  Have you considered inviting the Information Commissioner (http://ico.org.uk/) to chew them over?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on May 30, 2013, 03:52:20 PM

One FOI I did note that Swindon Council could not answer was a request as to how many FOIs had SBC raised on themselves. Amazing, but they did not see fit to measure this.


Probably(?) SBC legal has either found a form of words which circumvents the question [how many FOI's it has raised against itself] or had coached it's officers on how to submit an FOI without their status as an officer of the council being recordable.

In any event, SBC's FOI department could very easily compare the names of all FOI applicants and compare it against a list of SBC officers.  Of course they don't even need to do this because they know damn well who submitted which FOI.

I suggest you have at your fingertips yet more examples of SBC's FOI misfeasance and malfeasance.  Have you considered inviting the Information Commissioner ([url]http://ico.org.uk/[/url]) to chew them over?


As a consequence of the March 2013 opening and closing schools report presented to the CYPOS committee I asked for information relating to the 2009 Steering Group (mentioned in the report but unknown to the public and unmentioned in any other officer reports) which played a key role in delivering the Croft.

Initial responses from the committee officer were open and provided detail of the members of this group. When I asked for information relating to basic governance ( as clearly specified in guidance from the Office of Law and Democratic Services which I have since seen in the public domain) I was informed that this was an FOI request which although I had not requested ( an officer generated FOI) I waited patiently to have fulfilled.

After the requisite FOI deadline I asked for the information and was surprised to be told that the council was taking advice as this request was seen to be 'vexatious'.

I simply asked for evidence of governance for a steering group of senior councillors and senior officers who provided information to the cabinet on which a significant decision was made whilst the public had been kept in the dark by ward councillors.

FOI requests are managed by the office of law and democratic services.

Decision making in Swindon and a guide to report writing and clearance is the output of the office of law and democratic services.

Advice is commonly sought from the office of law and democratic services.

Why is it vexatious to ask the department who state the rules of governance for evidence of governance ? 

I have again been patient and await this 'advice' with interest.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on October 23, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Letter sent to the Adver

Kareen

A word of thanks.    
 
Having recently been the subject of threatening and inciting comments on the Swindon Advertiser's comments page relating to the burying of a time capsule at the Croft School, I would like to register my thanks to both the Swindon Advertiser and the local police for their prompt attention to this matter. The comment in question named my family and that of another local resident as well as making disparaging comments about the Pipers Area Residents' Association.
 
The Swindon Advertiser promptly removed the offensive post and provided the Police with the technical details relating to the poster using the pseudonym ' Bobby Wright'.  From this the Police were able to establish that the poster was located in North Swindon and subsequently visited the identified address to inform him about the implications of harassment and consequences of further activity of this nature under this or any other pseudonym.
 
Kareen Boyd
Hesketh Crescent, Old Town, Swindon   
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on October 23, 2013, 03:49:03 PM
Well done Adver and police, harassment is harassment.

Does make you wonder about why someone from North Swindon would have such a problem with the activities of someone living the other side of town.

Unless of course they had some sort of vested interested or had a link with someone who did.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 23, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
And not an isolated case  ....

Earlier this year , The Adver wrote a good article about the Spring Clean that we did in Old Town.
It was a nice article about a positive initiative that brought together local residents from 5 years old up to 87, along with local businesses, scouts, people who worked in SBC & SCS, councillors from both of the main parties,  2 vicars  and blokes from the nightclub.

Anyone who wanted to be part of it was welcomed. A good day was shared by the 75 people who took part ... & the flowers continue to bloom to this day.

As one of the organisers, my name & a sentence or two was  included in the feature - along with 100% positive statements from at least 2 other people . It was a "good news story".

....Or at least it was until online comments were added , singling me out for special attention.

I cant remember the exact names as It was a while ago ... but Ringer & Mr Grumpy come to mind.
 
I wasnt chuffed to read nasty, demeaning comments from anonymous posters but decided to ignore them at first.

As they kept going, I made the mistake of trying to engage on line to clarify some of the facts hoping it would diffuse the vitriol.
Totally pointless ( a lesson learnt for me ) as it went on and on .... ending with something like
" her ( ie my ) clear hatred of the tories can be seen on the labour site ( = assume  Talkswindon )

On the back of the other stuff and as someone who might hate the actions of some - but doesn't " hate " anyone " I decided I'd had enough & lodged my concerns. It took a week to remove the comments.

I also mentioned that since speaking up about the Croft, It wasn't the first time that " odd " things had been said or written and that if anything similar happened again,  I'd have no hesitation in instructing a lawyer to take action against the perpetrators.
 I knew I was only one of a number of people who felt the same.

The identities and agendas have been "strongly" suggested to me since then and boy - some people should be ashamed.

The " burying the time capsule " piece was even worse so well done Kareen for " calling time " and getting police to act on this.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Des Moffatt on October 23, 2013, 08:41:59 PM
If this person holds public office or seeks to hold public office he/she should be exposed.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on October 23, 2013, 09:45:42 PM
I totally agree.

A 'name and shame' is fully justified in this case. The vitriol and the personal abuse are beyond the pale. No further action than merely exposing their names is necessary. Shame will do the rest.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: concerned_of_Old_Town on October 23, 2013, 10:12:14 PM
If you do know/suspect who the real Bobby Wright is can you give us a hint?

For instance is it someone connected with a political party  or is it an individual acting alone? 

Wonder if same person who is Bobfm/Robfm?


PS well done Police/Adver/Karen





Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on October 23, 2013, 10:40:44 PM
Quote
If you do know/suspect who the real Bobby Wright is can you give us a hint?

I'd counsel caution. No speculation - only facts and only from those who knows for sure (if anyone outside of The Adver or the police actually does, of course  :wink: ). We don't want to compound their malign influence by libelling or unfairly besmirching an innocent party.

I'm rather hopeful a lamplighter might sing out. I think, for sheer poison and vitriol. the individual concerned has foregone any right to hide behind anonymity. Attacking ideas or policies is one thing - but regularly trolling ordinary people for no better justification than naked hate is about as low as anyone can stoop.

I'd like them to squirm whilst they contemplate the very real possibility that the whole of Swindon might be about to discover who they are.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on October 24, 2013, 10:00:03 AM
This is a long overdue breath of fresh air.

Notice logins using the name "Tim" have also vanished.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Jarvis on October 24, 2013, 04:19:29 PM
This is a long overdue breath of fresh air.

Notice logins using the name "Tim" have also vanished.

He'll be back.  Dog's always return to sniff at their own poo.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on October 24, 2013, 06:42:38 PM
Well anticipated.

Within a very short time of my comment one of the "tim" logins has suddenly come back into use.

Thought that might happen.

Despite his continual slating of TalkSwindon, he does read it every day  :thumb:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on October 24, 2013, 09:12:15 PM
As an advocate of freedom of speech I recognise what a great privilege it is to live in a country where this is revered.

With such a privilege comes the responsibility to use this wisely.

I have learned much in these past 3 years and have been the subject of more attacks than I have the energy to list at this moment.

The boundaries of acceptability are quite clear.

As are the implications of crossing this threshold.

Kareen
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 24, 2013, 10:07:43 PM
Roosevelt  said ....“Knowing what's right doesn't mean much unless you do what's right.”

Local people who rightly speak up when they see something wrong shouldn't be under " attack " or told they are " being punished "



 
 

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on October 25, 2013, 12:00:38 AM
I am sure you will both recall that I once said to you that, having dared to dissent with our local governance, you would be treated as enemy combatants by the ilk.

It's a non-xclusive and quickly growing club....I think Mayor Barnett crowned Mary Ratcliffe as our most senior member.

Wear your orange overalls with pride and dignity Ladies :)

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on October 25, 2013, 08:41:47 AM
I am sure you will both recall that I once said to you that, having dared to dissent with our local governance, you would be treated as enemy combatants by the ilk.

It's a non-xclusive and quickly growing club....I think Mayor Barnett crowned Mary Ratcliffe as our most senior member.

Wear your orange overalls with pride and dignity Ladies :)

Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk

I'm honoured to be thought of in the same sentence as Mary.

And I am led to believe that orange is quite my colour!!

Kareen
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: ph1lc on October 25, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
Kareen

You've fought a tireless campaign entirely honourably and for that you deserve nothing but congratulations.

The 'orrible little adver troll deserves a public naming and shaming!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on October 25, 2013, 11:42:01 AM
Kareen

You've fought a tireless campaign entirely honourably and for that you deserve nothing but congratulations.

The 'orrible little adver troll deserves a public naming and shaming!

I agree if only to set an example.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 25, 2013, 12:58:41 PM

Hi Geoff, I remember your words about " what to expect" for daring to dissent ( ie  treated as enemy combatants)

Having met only once,  I had no basis to know whether your views were right or wrong on this at the time.

Truth is - you were right about how "some" would behave, the evidence speaks for itself.

But.... there have also been a  number of people who have made contact to offer support or to share their own worrying experiences, including from some within SBC itself who are fed up with what has been peddled by some of their colleagues.

I respect peoples confidence so won't name names, but its interesting how many people are expressing a real distaste for the kind of antics that a small cabal have seemed to consider "appropriate" in 2013.
 
Some of the questions that I've been asked more than once are  " What is their problem ?" " When will they "get it " " Why do they behave like this " & " What are they so afraid of ?"
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on October 25, 2013, 01:58:15 PM
My understanding of historical periods when people have put their misplaced loyalty to political groups before acting in the interests of the general good, is that it has never ended well for those involved.

Lying, cheating, putting contracts in the direction of friends and relatives, supporting whatever a political colleague says even when it is totally incorrect or foolish and then smearing those who are doing good things or exposing foul or corrupt deeds, is not a process that brings about a fair and just society. Those that do it are the true scum of the earth.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on October 25, 2013, 02:12:03 PM
Those that do it are the true scum of the earth.

Is this an RAF thing T because it was an expression often used by my Father?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on October 25, 2013, 02:46:27 PM
My understanding of historical periods when people have put their misplaced loyalty to political groups before acting in the interests of the general good, is that it has never ended well for those involved.

Lying, cheating, putting contracts in the direction of friends and relatives, supporting whatever a political colleague says even when it is totally incorrect or foolish and then smearing those who are doing good things or exposing foul or corrupt deeds, is not a process that brings about a fair and just society. Those that do it are the true scum of the earth.

Anyone who can draw breath is capable of making a mistake.

Recognising that you have made a mistake takes humility.

Admitting that you have made a mistake takes integrity.

Making restitution for a mistake takes courage.

Ignoring a mistake invites hubris as deceit drags more and more into the net.

As for hiding a mistake...

I guess it all depends on your conscience.

Kareen
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 25, 2013, 04:23:04 PM
 REF : Quote from: Outoftowner on Today at 01:58:15 P : Those that do it are the true scum of the earth.
Richards question : is this an RAF thing  because it was an expression often used by my Father?




No idea ....but I've sat in a few briefings with pilots ( UK & others ) who fly in formation & heard the following :

1) Total personal responsibility taken for individual actions, with each pilot :

- Openly discussing any errors made by them personally that need correcting  ( e.g distances between aircraft / speeds  )

- Freely saying what they thought led to their mistakes  ( technical / skill based ) and listening to team members  views.

- Listening to everyone in the team to hear the impact on them  - especially those physically closest to them ( eg  how their flight position was compromised )

-  Taking on board all team members views / advice as to  what to do differently -to avoid doing it again.

Formation teams fly " following the leader" - & whilst he/ she sets the direction - always impressive to hear the leaders asking their whole teams  what they needed to do differently to improve the performance.... especially for the public who would be watching the displays.

The teams would then fly again ,  watch the film back again , critique openly & honestly again, then fly again....  - constantly  learning, improving , leading to great performances when certified as having reached the " right standard "

Clear accountability, clear personal responsibility. Facing the facts , not avoiding them. 

The most challenging roles are given to the most experienced, but the overall performance depends on the actions of every one of the team - their lives depend on it.



Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on October 25, 2013, 04:42:53 PM

Hi Geoff, I remember your words about " what to expect" for daring to dissent ( ie  treated as enemy combatants)

Having met only once,  I had no basis to know whether your views were right or wrong on this at the time.

Truth is - you were right about how "some" would behave, the evidence speaks for itself.

But.... there have also been a  number of people who have made contact to offer support or to share their own worrying experiences, including from some within SBC itself who are fed up with what has been peddled by some of their colleagues.

I respect peoples confidence so won't name names, but its interesting how many people are expressing a real distaste for the kind of antics that a small cabal have seemed to consider "appropriate" in 2013.
 
Some of the questions that I've been asked more than once are  " What is their problem ?" " When will they "get it " " Why do they behave like this " & " What are they so afraid of ?"

My bold emphasis.

I have also found this to be the case.  The presence of good souls in the midst of the rot is what gives me hope that Swindon will not always be a rotten Borough.  As Robert Buckland says: "Sunlight is a good disinfectant"

I hope, when the change eventually arrives, they will come into their own and the Borough will begin to recover from its current civic deficit of democracy, decency and honest governance.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on October 25, 2013, 04:50:32 PM
Does make you wonder just how much standards in politics have declined since the generation that served in WW2 started retiring/passing away.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Rincewind on October 25, 2013, 09:19:22 PM
If you look at the comments for the Adver article about the footbridge on another thread, a certain person who calls himself a councillor welcomes the new Adver and police policy to deal with the comments section.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on October 26, 2013, 12:32:21 AM
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a certain person who calls himself a councillor welcomes the new Adver and police policy to deal with the comments section.


Yes - I read that too... its what I'd call a ...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-09HEpDwfKR4/T36zW2fInXI/AAAAAAAAAIE/-1en5AMHFFY/s1600/jimmy_hill.jpg)

... Moment!

 :wink:

Quite strange that he should even KNOW about it, seeing as I'm not aware that the Adver have mentioned it at all...? I WONDER where he read about it???  - I though this was a site eschewed by all good whip-fearing conservative councillors, so if he is who he claims, how would he know...? Lots of questions....
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on October 26, 2013, 04:42:31 AM
Teehee.....he's moved with some speed to put some distance betwixt himself and Bobby.  I see that as the first denial, so there'll be two more before a cock crows and the light dawns. :wink:

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Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 26, 2013, 10:45:09 AM
I don't know Cllr Oliver Donachie, although his words sound familiar.

I share the "delight" about the Adver's new stance , described by Oliver D :  to take " a principled stand against people who use their online pages  to intimidate under the wholly mistaken impression that they are in some way anonymous" and his welcome for any action in place to " unmask the cowards."

It would be a more powerful message to extend his concern beyond " Councillors ... who don't want to be engaged by people who use pseudonyms as a licence to attack Councillors ..."  to " members of the public " so I hope that Cllr Donachie and other elected representatives feel able to do this with immediate effect.

As Cllr Donachie has made a positive statement ( & presumably reads this site ) and mentions " trying to work on a basis of facts " , I hope that he is able to comment on the following :

1) Has Cllr Donachie ever posted under a pseudonym ? If so , why.

2) Will Cllr Donachie formally extend his support to the wider public - ie - will he condemn anonymous postings that have been placed against members of the public - especially that may have originated - or been sent on behalf of  any elected member - from any party? This would be good.

3) As members of the public have raised concerns about intimidation, including via trolling , can Cllr Donachie confirm what new "policy" he understands has been put in place by the police / Adver - as It would be good to know where this is formally stated ( aside from the thank you letter from KBoyd on behalf of herself & local people  )
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on October 26, 2013, 11:46:34 AM
Lots of speculation!

Of course, until its confirmed who the 'man from North Swindon' was that the police warned, its all we'll have, and I think we all ought to beware, as I said i the earlier post, that we don't unfairly assume who that is...

That said, seems to me like there might be an easy way of finally resolving this, given how important it is to the functioning of democracy in Swindon.

Kareen, I'm presuming the police never named the individual involved - though it would seem to me that you  have the right to ask for the name, and for two key reasons: 1) it would seem to me that you would have an excellent case to sue for defamation against this person. If you wished to pursue a civil action (or even to begin correspondence inviting an out of court settlement), you would need his name. The police have already established enough of an evidence path to have 'warned' someone, so I suspect they would be obliged to give you this information. ... 2) Given the threatening nature of some of the postings, you have entirely the right to ask for some sort of restraining order too - which again, would require knowledge of his name and address for correspondence.

Food for thought....?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Jodie Maggio on October 26, 2013, 11:48:03 AM
If you look at the comments for the Adver article about the footbridge on another thread, a certain person who calls himself a councillor welcomes the new Adver and police policy to deal with the comments section.

Since I went and read the referred comment I thought I'd just copy it in here. Point 5 is the comment of discussion

Quote from: Cllr Oliver Donachie
Oliver_Donachie says...

My view in no particular order is.

 1: It is not my ward but I am inside the Parish so will make general points.

 2: I am slightly bemused by comments of Emma Faramarzi not being contactable given A: the details of the article and B: the fact that it comes up immediately as the top result on Google.

 3: I am not a civil engineer but a qualified one has made a report in which they say the bridge is unsafe.

 I am interested to note that members of the Parish feel they are able to make a qualified assessment and I welcome the presentation of their engineers report.

 It appears some people do not grasp the difference between a sound bridge and a sound embankment, fortunately for us real qualified engineers do understand the difference and I am sure that is the point they are making re erosion.

 4: I can predict the endless pages of comments if the council did not fulfil its obligation and someone came to harm. It appears a number of people will act as contrarians no matter what the argument and that is why I am sympathetic to people who simply see no point in debate.

5: I am delighted to hear of the Advertisers new policy in conjunction with the police to take a principled stand against people who use these pages to intimidate under the wholly mistaken impression they are in some way anonymous and I welcome any action in place to unmask the cowards who do so Bobfm.

 Cllr Oliver Donachie.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 26, 2013, 12:25:04 PM
Hi Tobes ref your post " Lots of speculation!
Of course, until its confirmed who the 'man from North Swindon' was that the police warned, its all we'll have, and I think we all ought to beware, as I said i the earlier post, that we don't unfairly assume who that is... "


I couldn't agree more.


My post links directly to comments from Councillor Donachie & my hope that he feels able to extend his condemnation more widely - in support of the wider public.
His replies to the questions can help to establish and clear up any confusion that might exist about his position on this.
This would presumably be good for all concerned.


 


Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on October 26, 2013, 03:57:29 PM
Sadly I've seen accusations being made on the Adver website a few times that several very political people have used mutiple usernames, and have even gone as far as to hold conversations with themselves.

I wonder is having forum conversations with yourself is the modern day equivalent of talking to yourself :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on October 26, 2013, 04:23:03 PM
Sort of Gorg, or it means you haven't enough friends to help you set up a conversation, question  and answer thing. 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on October 26, 2013, 07:47:13 PM
Quote
My post links directly to comments from Councillor Donachie & my hope that he feels able to extend his condemnation more widely - in support of the wider public.
His replies to the questions can help to establish and clear up any confusion that might exist about his position on this.
This would presumably be good for all concerned.

Absolutely. It was very forward thinking of Mr Donachie to make his statement in advance of anyone actually having been accused of being behind Bobby Wright - or of the Adver reporting that the old bill having had a word with someone. TS is, to my knowledge the only place it was reported (By Kareen) - a site he is rumoured to dislike (?). Or am I mistaken - has the information about the police action been shared anywhere other than here?

As he presumably therefore regularly reads posts here as a guest to have found out about Kareen's complaint and the police follow-up, I wonder if Mr D will also be honourable enough to correct 'Bobby Wright's' often stated false-assertion that Talk Swindon is a leftie/Labour Party site when he's next making a pronouncement in the Adver comments section...?

::)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on October 26, 2013, 08:54:58 PM
Also curious as to why a login name of "Ringer" has resurfaced on that same Adver thread.

The personality of that particular "Ringer" is far removed from the Talk Swindon Ringer
In much the same way that Bob Wright and the Adver's "Bobby Wright" are very different personalities.

Odd that all these characters seem to adopt a name used on Talk Swindon and yet they have "all" claimed to dislike this forum
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on October 26, 2013, 09:32:16 PM
My letter was sent to the local residents association, the Adver and then posted on TS.

The Adver printed my letter of thanks today.

I have no idea what Cllr Donachie is talking about in relation to any new policy at the Adver.

Perhaps he has some Adver knowledge unknown to the rest of us?

Kareen
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on October 27, 2013, 08:00:52 AM
My letter was sent to the local residents association, the Adver and then posted on TS.

The Adver printed my letter of thanks today.

I have no idea what Cllr Donachie is talking about in relation to any new policy at the Adver.

Perhaps he has some Adver knowledge unknown to the rest of us?

Kareen

Vanishingly unlikely that either staff at the Adver or a police officer would share with Cllr Donachie confidential information which is subject to Data Protection laws.  Neither does it seem likely that the Adver would appraise him, (as a regular user and abuser of the Adver's comments section), of any particular change in policy towards users trolling their website unless they have had cause to issue a warning to him or inform someone at an i.p address to which he has/had access that those i.p address details had been passed to the police in order that they might investigate an alleged criminal act(s). 

Although it is possible Cllr Donachie knew of actions taken by the Adver in support of a police investigation before Kareen distributed her letter, it seems more likely that, (if he did have prior knowledge), he'd been tipped off by another Adver user who knows more about Bobby Wright than they would ever publicly admit.  I think it's far less likely that Olive knows anything because he's politically privy to the content and course of police enquiries.

Most likely imho that Olive has intuited 'happenings' and is once again trying to 'big himself up', in which case he'll have more success at infalting himself up by spending several energetic and solitary hours with a penis enlarger pump.   Sorry if that offends anyone, it might be Sunday but I'll admit to not feeling particularly 'Churchey' or well disposed to political hypocrites today - I'll pop back and explain why after a bacon sandwich and cup of Rosey.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on October 27, 2013, 08:31:11 AM
I'll pop back and explain why after a bacon sandwich and cup of Rosey.


And, in my opinion, this is why Cllr Donachie is the rankest of hypocrites and why the residents of Haydon Wick ought to worry - whether they voted for him or not:

Voltaire...defend to the death... (http://www.talkswindon.org/index.php/topic,7738.msg63852.html#msg63852)


Olive starts with:

Quote from: Oliver Donachie
Hey Geoff,

I just thought I would borrow Emma's acount to make a quick thread, in my own "ungagged" words:


It's an interesting topic which is worth a slow read through in order to fully appreciate its subtleties. 

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: carole bent on October 27, 2013, 11:32:34 AM
Interesting.


Ref Cllr Donachie, I will be sending my questions directly to his email address out of courtesy today -  just in case he hasn't seen them here.
I will update when I receive a reply.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: jennyb on October 27, 2013, 12:50:41 PM
Voltaire...defend to the death... (http://www.talkswindon.org/index.php/topic,7738.msg63852.html#msg63852)

 
Quote
It's an interesting topic which is worth a slow read through in order to fully appreciate its subtleties


I hadn't seen the 'Voltaire' thread before today. 

Read it all.... Fascinating...

Kareen
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on November 04, 2013, 08:22:58 PM
Looks like the adver  " Ringer " has tripped up in the readers comments

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10780251.Vandals_destroy_pupils____saplings/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10780251.Vandals_destroy_pupils____saplings/)
Title: Ooops! He's done it again
Post by: I Could Do That on November 06, 2013, 06:55:04 PM
Oops!
He's done it again  :2funny:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10785543.I_will_still_be_as_dedicated/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10785543.I_will_still_be_as_dedicated/)

At this rate, it might soon be pleasant to join in with the adver comments
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: OTTed on November 11, 2013, 01:19:20 PM
Not been on here for some while and I was drawn to this thread as I too have suffered public mauling by the trolls.

after reading what seemed a sensible and viable discussion through the past 2 pages, I was sidetracked to the discussion on the Adver links rather than TS

time away has sharpened my perspective on such arguments, I can only say that I find it depressing that those who started  such a spat [on the Adver comments thread] were mutually self obsessed enough to keep it going.

does public life and politics really have to be so childish. It is clear that two people who probably think that they 'care' about the world have lost any focus on the issues. They also will have disengaged a number of reasonable people who will have read the thread.

very sad.

Think I will return my thoughts to substantive issues. Of course hoping that the Bobby Wrights of this world can be marginalised permanently and that good citizens do not need to be harassed or frightened for holding opinions.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on November 11, 2013, 02:10:45 PM
Of course hoping that the Bobby Wrights of this world can be marginalised permanently and that good citizens do not need to be harassed or frightened for holding opinions.

If only it were that easy  :wink:

All too often the alter ego's of the Adver Onanist's pop up in real life to use reputational leverage against their 'enemies'.  The sad fact is that, for these people, politics extends far beyond the boundaries of what normal people consider normal.

A supplementary 'sad fact' is that by merely advancing the above observation I will probably trigger a fresh round of 'reaching out and touching people' by the aforementioned alter ego's.

A third and final 'sad fact' is that the Adver Onanist's, (in both their 'anonymous' and 'public' personas), tend to forget that normal people talk to each other, exchange opinions and compare notes ;D
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on December 11, 2013, 10:41:38 PM
I don't know if it's just me but I couldn't help but spot what seems to be an interesting trend on the Adver comments section with the thumbs up and down stuff.  Is it just me or do comments which agree with a certain poster seem to really well but those which disagree don't?

I think the following is a really good example, I was following this discussion today and after a certain person commented the first few comments went down from having a positive thumbs up to a zero or negative one (along with any further comments that seemed to disagree) http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10867995.Helping_to_make_sportswomen_feel_sexy/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10867995.Helping_to_make_sportswomen_feel_sexy/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on December 12, 2013, 05:49:38 AM

TS has a 'Karma Points' system.  We decided in the early days to leave it switched off - I can't remember why exactly but it probably seemed like a good idea at the time.

I'll have a quick looksie before I go up the wooden hill, if I can find it I'll switch it on for a day or so so we can play with it and talk about it. 
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on December 12, 2013, 06:01:56 AM

Ha! Found it....
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on December 12, 2013, 08:22:02 AM
Hmmm - I've never been a fan of 'thumbs up/down' or karma points as used on other forums.

Too many users start applying them instead of rational arguments to 'settle scores'. Their purpose becomes even more opaque when you look at what is happening on the Adver site: It appears pretty clear that someone is either gathering supporters to up-vote their inane comments, or is using their own multiple log-ins to vote.

Debate and the exchange of ideas ought not be a popularity contest: Some of the most unpalatable truths may not be popular; I'd prefer to see thoughts and ideas challenged using evidence, logic and fact. If someone disagrees with someone, they ought to crack a knuckle to a keyboard and make an attempt to construct a cogent argument, rather than just click 'dislike'. It makes it far too easy to be tribal and simply dismiss an idea or expression without being forced to think about it.

To that extent, I think the thumbs buttons on the Adver site have actually been counter-productive. For similar reasons, I'd prefer not to see them become a permanent fixture on TS...
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Weebleman on December 12, 2013, 08:31:45 AM
I don't think the Adver setup is that complicated. It appears you can "vote" without logging in (I've just done it and I don't have an Adver login!). So no need to have duplicate accounts to make yourself look good.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Outoftowner on December 12, 2013, 08:57:07 AM
I think you are correct Weeble. If I take a check on the site of that rabid simpleton, Iftie, to see what his latest ploy to create sectarianism is all about, I leave him with a "Thumbs Down" too.
He hasn't worked out what is happening yet.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on December 12, 2013, 06:16:14 PM
Quote
I don't think the Adver setup is that complicated. It appears you can "vote" without logging in (I've just done it and I don't have an Adver login!). So no need to have duplicate accounts to make yourself look good.

... which rather begs the question as to the point. Its not a democratic endorsement or censure - it leaves the system open to abuse if you are able to mobilise a mob to victimise your critics or artificially boost your apparent popularity.

As a result, the quality of argument becomes secondary...

Personally, I don't care whether Ifti gets a 'thumbs down' - I think what you have to say about it is far more effective and worth-while as a means of combating him and his ilk. And the success of doing so is not about what is popular or unpopular, its about de-constructing the ludicrous nature of his logic and exposing false rhetoric and bigotry.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on December 12, 2013, 08:43:16 PM
I don't like 'ratings' and I particularly dislike the Facebook 'Like' button.  I'd rather people left even a one word comment than a one.button 'like'.

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Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on December 18, 2013, 08:03:07 AM
Dusted off the old Adver comments login (surprisingly I remembered the password  :o) and added a comment to the old town power cut discussion about iffy voting trends. I'll be interested to see how the voting goes  :popcorn:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10882040.Residents_frustrated_as_the_lights_go_out_in_Old_Town/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10882040.Residents_frustrated_as_the_lights_go_out_in_Old_Town/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on December 18, 2013, 10:48:29 AM
That some of the 'regular faces' have knobbled the thumbs system on the Adver comments section is one of the most transparent and revealing bits of conceit, isn't it?

I've made it something of a personal mission to try and remain as untribal as possible regarding the way I assess any given political issue, but you'd have to be utterly stupid not to perceive the predictable patterns occurring on the Adver pages. It's so obvious, its laughable, in a tragic and sad kind of way. Tragic, because it reveals the pathetic nature of the kind of people who post an opinion without the balls to do it either in their own real name, or with the intention to see the merit of their statements stand or fall according to its content. Its just another tribal game to be won. That the same attitude extends into the council chamber is of no cooincidence, in my view...

Its also an illustration of why I'd like to see the 'applaud/smite' option removed from TS  :wink:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on December 18, 2013, 03:02:55 PM
Its also an illustration of why I'd like to see the 'applaud/smite' option removed from TS  :wink:

Has anyone actually used it?
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on December 18, 2013, 03:29:00 PM
Apparently  :wink:

Geoff has been lauded 28576 times and smitten 2267

Busy man!

(the 'scores' are under peoples ID pics - Mugs, me and a few others have picked up a few too)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on December 18, 2013, 05:37:29 PM
Ignore my Karma totals, they're fake. I was demonstrating to the operator (and members) of another forum that, contrary to his assertion that he was unable to inflate his own Karma totals, it is comparatively simple and quick thing to do.

Karma and 'Thumbs' up/down ratings systems are divisive, unrepresentative, lazy and pointless in my opinion.  I'd much rather read a post containing a genuinely held opinion than something crafted for peer group applause.  It would be nice to see genuine opinion advanced and discussed within the council chamber and Adver pages, but both venues are seriously flawed in their ability to foster and sustain honest and frank discussion.

I'm pleased no one used it during the few days it was active on TS and it was pleasing to switch it off again.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on December 18, 2013, 06:51:03 PM
Quote
Karma and 'Thumbs' up/down ratings systems are divisive, unrepresentative, lazy and pointless in my opinion.  I'd much rather read a post containing a genuinely held opinion than something crafted for peer group applause.  It would be nice to see genuine opinion advanced and discussed within the council chamber and Adver pages, but both venues are seriously flawed in their ability to foster and sustain honest and frank discussion.

Well, huzzah and hurrah! God Save the King, Rule Britannia,    and Boo Sucks the Hairy Hun!  :clap:

I guess then that the weirdly coincidental positive thumb-storm which accompanies 'Ringer' whenever he posts and which denigrates all critics *might* (just MIGHT) be an example of a similar possibility...?  ::)

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on January 27, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
This thread is going to be a very useful reference point for future developments :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on January 27, 2014, 11:49:06 PM
 
:popcorn:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: bobwright on January 30, 2014, 08:41:10 PM
Can't make my mind up if the person using another's name is 'damaged goods', intends to damage or ultimately when revealed will do damage to their own reputation. Either way a sad way to live.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Richard Symonds on January 30, 2014, 10:43:49 PM
Can't make my mind up if the person using another's name is 'damaged goods', intends to damage or ultimately when revealed will do damage to their own reputation. Either way a sad way to live.

Exactly Bob!
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on January 30, 2014, 11:52:57 PM
It's all rather polite and serene on the Adver columns at the moment.

Last  exchange I had, my impersonator was implying that I had stolen HIS login.
Seems he's incapable of recognising his own faults.

I couldn't comment due to proceedings, but the reputation thing is worth noting as I am merely a humble member of the public, with no political connections, and due to leave town very soon.

Thing is this thread, with its many links to archived Adver threads, provides an accurate record of comments exchanged over a very long period of time.  :police:
 
I apologise in advance if I highlight this thread and the Adver Cloning one from time to time
http://www.talkswindon.org/index.php/topic,9720.msg99304/topicseen.html#msg99304 (http://www.talkswindon.org/index.php/topic,9720.msg99304/topicseen.html#msg99304)

Keeping these two threads in particular in the "recent topics" list makes it easier to investigate.

I think most will agree that this is well overdue
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on February 01, 2014, 11:59:02 AM
Recorded for ongoing proceedings
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10975371.Final_arrest_haul_47_as_Operation_Harness_delivers_message_to_drug_dealers/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/10975371.Final_arrest_haul_47_as_Operation_Harness_delivers_message_to_drug_dealers/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on February 22, 2014, 10:01:37 AM
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11026523.Cracks_in_walls_force_deacon_to_close_chapel_behind_Regent_Circus_development/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11026523.Cracks_in_walls_force_deacon_to_close_chapel_behind_Regent_Circus_development/)
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on February 23, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
Interesting little story from Kent http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/23/rival-facebook-campaigns-stir-storm-margate-tesco (http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/23/rival-facebook-campaigns-stir-storm-margate-tesco)

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on February 25, 2014, 09:55:26 PM
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11033330.Lydiard_sell_off_rumours_spark_Twitter_row/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11033330.Lydiard_sell_off_rumours_spark_Twitter_row/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on March 23, 2014, 09:54:53 AM
More cloning?
Takes time to sort out don't it?
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11088727.Library_users_fear_hours_may_be_cut/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11088727.Library_users_fear_hours_may_be_cut/)
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on May 20, 2014, 06:02:34 PM
Well it's been a long time coming....

This could be the start of a new improved era.......

It looks like The Adver' are finally going to monitor their comments sections

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11222155.THE_LIST__Top_10_most_expensive_houses_currently_on_the_market_in_Swindon/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11222155.THE_LIST__Top_10_most_expensive_houses_currently_on_the_market_in_Swindon/)
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Des Moffatt on June 05, 2014, 09:16:49 AM
How many on the Adver comments will now disappear?

Deputy leader steps down after fake texts

Paul Shotton, the deputy leader of Stoke-on-Trent City Council, has stepped down after it was revealed he sent text messages to BBC Radio Stoke pretending to be different people. Mr Shotton sent the messages over six months with comments supportive of the council and the Labour Party and critical of their political rivals. Elsewhere, Worcester City Council leader Adrian Gregson has been replaced by Simon Geraghty, following a vote of no confidence, bringing the council back under Conservative control. Separately, chief executives from Wandsworth, Camden, Thurrock and Barking & Dagenham councils, have appeared before the Communities and Local Government select committee, which is holding the investigation into excessive rises in local government remuneration. The annual Town Hall Rich List compiled by the Taxpayers Alliance found that Camden had more employees earning over £100,000 than any other council, with 40.

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Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on June 06, 2014, 05:42:19 PM
It will be interesting to see if anyone refrains from "persistent use" of the Adver threads now that the borough solicitor has expressed his disapproval of pseudonym politics.

It certainly went quiet when I initially reported one particular troll to the police when he logged in as me and did his best to incite people, condoning drink drivers etc.

Trouble is (for the troll) all his antics are recorded.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Spunkymonkey on June 06, 2014, 11:04:35 PM
It will be interesting to see if anyone refrains from "persistent use" of the Adver threads now that the borough solicitor has expressed his disapproval of pseudonym politics.

It certainly went quiet when I initially reported one particular troll to the police when he logged in as me and did his best to incite people, condoning drink drivers etc.

Trouble is (for the troll) all his antics are recorded.

The borough solicitor's disapproval applies to us not them.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on June 11, 2014, 02:34:39 PM
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11268682.Cats_die_in_terrible_pain_after_poisoning/ (http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11268682.Cats_die_in_terrible_pain_after_poisoning/)

Highly suspicious comments and stacks of block 'thumbs up' for what is effectively an endorsement of someone deliberately poisoning people's pets.

Does the geographic location bear any link to any of our prime suspects? Also, note the potential sock-puppet personas agreeing with each other.

I think the police ought to be made aware of this thread.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on June 11, 2014, 06:28:01 PM
Bit scary as this is just across the brook so to speak.  So warned my cat friends as son as I read it.

How long does antifreeze last outdoors?  And I take it it is antifreeze because it seem one of the cats had a proper autopsy.

If antifreeze lingers and if it is as attractive to cats - I never saw any of ours hanging around the antifreeze bottle or trying to get to them. If it does linger, then I might have the answer. 

When they built abbey Meads the developers each had a compound, some concurrently some overlapping and some on their own.  Nearly all of them in that vicinity were careless with their red diesel at some point maybe also careless with antifreeze?   If so, that got into the ditches around the fields - yes, hard to believe but there were actually fields and hedgerows with ditches there, up until about 20 years ago. 

From the ditches, it entered the Groundwell Brook and then on down into the Haydon brook etc. That part of Abbey Meads is nearly all built on the hillside so wherever it leaked it came downwards. 

If antifreeze is short lived, then who would be using it at this time of the year or anytime in the last few months etc, except for purposes most fowl? 

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Tobes on June 11, 2014, 07:54:49 PM
I have to say, I'm rather suspicious of some of the excuses and justifications made by the 'personality' personalities on the adver comments section.

http://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/cats/health/poisoning/antifreeze (http://www.rspca.org.uk/adviceandwelfare/pets/cats/health/poisoning/antifreeze)

For all the reasons you state (time of year - no ones using antifreeze and cats are basking in the sun rather than going into garages, the number of cats effected), not to mention the bile and weird callousness of the adver commentards, I'd be almost certain that this was a deliberate and malicious spate of poisonings, sadly.

Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on June 12, 2014, 12:40:11 AM
I'll also go with the deliberate hypotheses.

If I lived next door to someone who hates cats visiting their garden, and who didn't have a cat but seemed to leave containers of water out for them , I'd be mighty interested in the what and the why if cats closeby started dying after ingesting antifreeze.

Best way to keep cats out of your garden is to leave a dog in it.  You still have to scoop da poop but at least a dog doesn't hide it next to your radishes :)

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Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Muggins on June 12, 2014, 06:16:38 AM
Funnily enough Geoff, I've found that the best way not to have someone else's cat in the garden is to have one of your own.  Our dogs have never stopped neighbours cats from spending the day with us. Or is that because we wouldn't allow the dogs to 'see 'em off' (said as one word).
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on June 16, 2014, 08:59:49 PM
 :o WOW!!  :o
The Adver finally banned the troll  :clap:  :clap:  :clap:

http://m.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11278010.Don___t_fall_foul_of_law_during_World_Cup/ (http://m.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/11278010.Don___t_fall_foul_of_law_during_World_Cup/)

Well......until his next alias I suppose   :coolsmiley:

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4:34pm Mon 16 Jun 14
Craig Lyus says…
Right then. ChannelX has been banned (under that alias at least) frankly because I'm sick of the constant tedious arguments. As a word of warning to the rest of you, don't get drawn into exchanges like those above. Debate by all means but do so with courtesy please.


All the more entertaining because the troll was claiming moral high ground, superior intellect, and impunity to virtually everyone else on the thread  :fence:
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: Geoff Reid on June 17, 2014, 04:12:23 AM

About time too :)

He's a good example of why I tend to shoot trolls before they get fully into their stride. Funnily enough, the very worst trolls I've known often seem to have a commercial interest in the www.  I've always wondered if owning/running a www business tends to endow them with a sense of ownership of the www, and therefore feel entitled to behave like twats.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: the gorgon on June 17, 2014, 08:10:23 AM
Well I have read that ASD tends to be more prevalent in the IT industry than in the population as a whole, whether that's true or not I don't know.

However, trolls do exhibit some classic signs of ASD or sociopathic disorders like a lack of empathy.  One group can't understand why their actions might be hurtful (and struggle with the concept that people might disagree with them) and with the other they don't care what damage they do to have a laugh or further their cause.
Title: Re: Adver comments - I wonder who 'bobby wright' is?
Post by: I Could Do That on November 02, 2015, 06:49:43 PM
Sent these links to the new Adver web editor who unwittingly confirmed who the troll is.

Be interesting to see if anything happens.

Certainly going to be a classic case of "what's good for the goose is good for the ICDT"

If nothing else, it's raised the viewing figures of Talk Swindon