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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #440 on: July 27, 2015, 08:31:02 PM »
I wish there was a more tangible pleasure to be derived from SBC related Schadenfreude, as it tends to manifest as a weary here-we-go-again frustration that the bleeding bloody obvious has been ignored by them ONCE MORE, rather than a sense of glee, but the cabinet's inverse Midas touch (where things they touch turn to dung instead of gold) has struck another over-puffed vibrant project... or as this article seems to indicate, series of projects of which this has only been the start...

As commented at the beginning of the month, the debacle of the Regents Circus (and what a circus this project has turned out to be) continues to deliver more bad PR and a second class/compromised experience for the town and its diverse people. In this case, its the continuing saga of the crossings shared space 'open stretch of road with different coloured tarmac' which is making headlines. You heard it here first folks...

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/13500259.Mike_leads_the_fight_against__shared_space__crossing/

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MIKE Beale, 75, is secretary and treasurer of Swindon Blind Association, which is aappealing for the ‘shared space’ crossings near the Regent Circus Development to be replaced with conventional ones. The dad-of-one, a former teacher, who lives in Nythe, spoke to BARRIE HUDSON.

THE message from Mike Beale about the Regent Circus Development crossings is stark: visually impaired people are being discriminated against, 24 hours a day, every day.

Neither he nor Swindon Blind Association suggest the discrimination is based on prejudice. Rather, they put it down to officialdom’s ignorance of the needs of a sizeable section of the community, but the result is the same anyway.

“The problem,” said Mike. “is that now the lights have been taken away, it’s effectively a barrier to VIPs, as we call them – visually impaired people.

“It turns it into a no-go area.”


Hmmm - do we believe Mike, with his detailed specialist knowledge? Or are his years of experience working with visually impaired people offset by the spontaneous piece praising the crossing-less-crossings kindly submitted to the Adver by an estate agent...?  ::)

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Mike is disappointed with the official response to the association’s concerns.

“The planners have been told about it at Locality Group meetings. They’ve been asked why they’re treating people in this way and they’ve said, ‘Well, it’s like that in other places so it must be allright.’

“But what they haven’t said is that when you look at places like Southampton that have put a shared space in at one of their crossings, they were forced by public complaints to reinstate the lights.”

According to Mike, businesses and public facilities generally show consideration to blind and partially-sighted people, which makes the issue of the crossing all the more glaring.

He worries about another planned development making things worse.

“When the new bus station opens and they close the underpass from Debenhams, Fleming Way is going to become shared space, so it will effectively ban our VIPs from getting a bus into the centre of town.

“They’ll have to use a stop somewhere else and then make their own way in.”


A town-centre in which all our citizens are welcome... unless they're blind or suffering from any kind of mobility disability which makes playing Russian Roulette with cars a less than 'inviting' prospect...
« Last Edit: July 27, 2015, 09:29:43 PM by Tobes »
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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #441 on: July 28, 2015, 08:48:46 AM »
You started this thread 13 months ago Tobes. 13 months in which more and more people have agreed that the shared space is not a safe and sensible solution.
13 months in which the only people in support appear to be the Council.

Will they ever understand who they work for?

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #442 on: July 28, 2015, 09:15:41 AM »
Perhaps we should have got a large pot of white and a large pot of black paint and some 40 watt light bulbs and carried out some midnight guerilla road improvements ourselves.? :spin:
What's it all about?

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #443 on: July 28, 2015, 12:50:09 PM »
There has already been talk of protects and direct action in the light of complete council intransigence - but it may be that they aren't needed as anything but a last resort, as the following has come to light:

http://dpac.uk.net/category/action/

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Legal Challenge Against Shared Spaces.
 
Jul12 2015
 
Has your Council taken out or turned off safe street crossings to create a so-called Shared Space? As these are desperately dangerous for people with any and all impairments, Unity Law are now taking action against 5 councils.Please consider joining the action if you have a Shared Space where you live. Unity Law will represent you at absolutely no cost to yourself and the more people and places they have on board the better.

You can contact Chris Fry at Unity Law on 0114 361 0000 or info@unity-law.co.uk


So, given the experience of Regents Circus and the way in which general public opinion was first avoided during the 'consultation' (with only one disabled representative included as far as I can see), apparently dodged after the audit which represented 100 improvements, and by the disingenuous appearing de-labeling of the area as shared space which saw it finally kicked into the political long-grass, there may well be a plethora of groups and individuals who'd like to follow up.

I'd urge anyone who feels discriminated or disenfranchised to share that link as far and wide as they can.

A rare opportunity to hold the council to order - and an important one, given that they seem to want to roll similar schemes out across the rest of town too.

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #444 on: July 30, 2015, 10:19:49 PM »
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/13508671.OPINION__Cultural_assets_underpin_economic_success/

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EARLIER this week I was asked to put together my ideal postcard to illustrate Swindon, which was an enjoyable challenge. You will have seen the sort of card I mean – it usually has four photographs of places of interest, sometimes with a fifth picture or image in the centre...


An interesting opinion piece by David Renard...  :-\

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We need a thriving local economy to pay for all this, which is why I have chosen the Regent Circus development.

Not only has this allowed the demolition of an ugly and obsolete 1960s concrete building, but it has provided jobs and variety to the town centre through the cinema, shops and new places to eat.

The development represents an investment of about £30m by the private sector, and it is testament to investors’ confidence that the completed site was later sold for over £40m.


Agreed.

BUT

In the postcard picture, are there any disabled or blind people confidently crossing the road, now that it has no crossings and isn't even designated 'shared space' anymore...?

 ???

SBC can't duck its responsibility for allowing the creation of a space which discriminates against a part of our community.

It could be fixed relatively easily... Will it take a death, injury or an expensive court case to happen...?  :(
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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #445 on: June 16, 2016, 11:48:15 AM »
This week I've seen a man in a van on the mobile buzzing a person in a wheel chair trying to get across the road. Very unedifying.

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #446 on: June 22, 2016, 08:22:02 PM »
I have just heard that Regents Circus road layout has won an award.

I would have shared this information earlier, but have only just stopped laughing.  :2funny: :2funny:

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #447 on: June 22, 2016, 09:25:42 PM »
was it awarded by the blind school and does this mean that councillors will now get their pay increase without opposition as they do such a good job........ :2funny:

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #448 on: June 22, 2016, 09:33:33 PM »
If you want to read how wonderful Regents Circus is, you can find it here:-

http://www.transportplanningassociates.co.uk/tpa-commended-ciht-awards-2016/

According to one quote - "This is undoubtedly the best bit of Swindon."

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Re: Regents Circus; ugly, late, compromised, dangerous...?
« Reply #449 on: June 23, 2016, 03:20:48 PM »
If you want to read how wonderful Regents Circus is, you can find it here:-

http://www.transportplanningassociates.co.uk/tpa-commended-ciht-awards-2016/

According to one quote - "This is undoubtedly the best bit of Swindon."


Why does "Damning with feint praise" spring to mind?