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Eco -Friendly Homes
« on: June 16, 2014, 03:48:21 PM »
A poster calling themselves "anotherimmigrant" has posted this on the Adver and This is Wiltshire sites:

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Hi I was informed yesterday of a meeting that took place, with just the council and its mignons, at an eco-friendly sight in park north area.

Apparently there are a couple of these sites dotted around the town and they are owned by our illustrious leaders at the council.

Now apparently the tenants have been complaining about the excessively high costs to run these (eco-friendly, low cost houses).

It appears that several of them never even had the solar voltaic connected from the roofs and that the air-source heat pumps are not doing what it says on the can. This is because they also were not installed and commissioned correctly.

Now it appears that instead of getting the peeps who didn't do their jobs properly back to do what we the people paid them to do, that our specially trained leaders are going to rip out all the 7k each air source heat pumps and solar panels at about 8k a house out and put it all in a skip.

Sounds like another Ruddy Bluh type WI-FI fiasco looming?

It also appears that the council(sic) is now arranging for a gas supply to be put in on these sites at humungus cost, tens of thousands, and then pay for normal gas fired boilers to be fitted, also at humungus cost.

That's the pension fund done in again, and as there will now be a shortfall, they'll have to increase the rates.
Who authorised it to be installed?

Who commissioned it and said it was working perfectly.

Who designed the installation of these eco packs.

Who authorised my/our equipment to be de-installed and thrown away.

What was the total cost of this equipment, (under the freedom of information act)

Don't you just LOVE living in SWINDON.

Maybe the questions are to difficult

As for Talk Swindon web , that's a political website for the council to beat it,s drum.

You couldn't discus the above there it would be removed instantly.


The poster has been challenged to post on Talkswindon, that well known "political website for the council to beat it,s drum" (sic) but I saved him / her the trouble.

Anyone know what's going on? Is the any truth in the story?


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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2014, 04:14:34 PM »
I think these houses are the ones that the man from the telly built, the one who wanted to build on pickard fields, if it is right, just shows how he put one over on the council as well, they must be in a queue along the M4 now, getting hold of our money the council are giving away.......

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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2014, 04:49:12 PM »
I don't think he went anywhere else in Swindon Terry, only those off Ferndale Road. 

I'm fairly sure the Eco houses over at Groundwell were built by a Housing Association, although I was invited to look round them prior to letting - Ex Cllr Glaholm will remember.  I'm sure it was he or ex Cllr Ray smith that took me. 

I can probably find out about the Parks one and no doubt Martin will know anyway. 

Oi! Listen mush. Old eyes, remember? I’ve been around the block a few times. More than a few. They’ve knocked down the blocks I’ve been around and rebuilt them as bigger blocks. Super blocks. And I’ve been round them as well.  The Doctor (Night Terrors)

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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2014, 05:23:43 PM »
These are probably the houses.

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/9831222.Sky_high_bills_blight_energy_saving_homes/


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Sky high bills blight energy saving homes
 
They may be the most eco-friendly homes in the town but tenants are yet to see the benefits of their ‘zero carbon’ homes, a year after they moved in.

The 13 homes at Malmesbury Gardens, the former Lyndhurst Crescent depot in Park North , were developed a year ago after Swindon Council submitted a bid to the Homes and Communities Agency.

The development was completed by Swindon Commercial Services Ltd and was part-funded by a £778,000 grant from the HCA.

At the time they were built, according to Government figures only 132 zero carbon homes had been built in the whole country and the aim of them was to reduce tenants’ energy costs.

However, a year on and tenant Jenny Baker has been left out of pocket after a huge electricity bill arrived on her doorstep.

“We’ve had huge problems with our solar panels, a lot of the residents here have,” she said.

“We didn’t realise what was going on until the bill came through and it was just under £2,000. “It turned out that the solar panels had never been turned on and we were using electricity from the grid, so it all worked out much more expensive than where we used to live. We only had the panels turned on about two months ago and we haven’t had a bill through since so we don’t know exactly how much it is saving us yet.”

The properties, which range from two bedrooms to five bedrooms, feature a range of energy saving materials, including photovoltaic panels for generating electricity, solar panels for pre-heating hot water and a hot water system designed to store water at lower temperatures than standard homes. Innovative hemcrete walls also absorb CO2, creating increased insulation.

Helen Cann, 34, moved into one of the homes with her partner Nik Stone and their two-and-a-half year old twin boys a year ago. Previously, they lived in a one-bedroom flat in Liden .

Following problems with their heater last summer, a mix-up meant their solar panels were accidentally turned off for six months, resulting in another high electricity bill.

They have also had problems with cracks in walls and unfinished doors, which has resulted in slugs getting in to their house.

She said: “We are very grateful for the house and we have no reason to move anywhere, it has been an absolute godsend. We want it to be our family home and we want our boys to grow up here, which is why we are trying to put our own personal stamp on it.

“We are happy with the house, the neighbours and the council in general, but there are a few things that I thought would have been sorted out before now.”

The family are now taking part in a two-year study by Oxford University, which will monitor the household and their bills now they have been settled in for a year.

Helen said: “It is exciting to be part of something so new and I am happy to help out other families that may be in the position we were in when we lived in a cramped flat, because there are so many things we have been able to do that we couldn’t do before. For example, we had all our families around at Christmas and I cooked a big dinner and we sat around as a family. We have been together for eight years and we have never been able to do that.

“We are happy with the house, the neighbours, the council in general, but they have been very slow to deal with problems, we would like to know that they do actually care.”

A spokesman for the council said: “We talk regularly to the tenants in Malmesbury Gardens and we are doing our best to resolve the problems that have occurred, although generally they tell us they are very happy with their homes. “Snags often occur with new properties of any kind, and it’s true that the energy-saving technology has led to some problems with bills. We are in contact with the electricity supplier to try and resolve these.

“The cracks are due to the buildings settling, which is normal. We will repair them, but we didn’t do this as soon as they appeared because it’s best to give the buildings time to settle fully.”


This was written in 2012 so maybe the 2 year study by Oxford University has been completed?
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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2014, 03:54:32 AM »

I don't think 'The Council' has beaten anything on Talkswindon....except a hasty retreat! :)

I have some difficulty accepting that the various grammatical errors in the text are anything other than deliberate and I suggest that the author has been intimately familiar with, but failed to get his own way on, Talkswindon in the past.

In any event the lie contained in the last line tends to devalue whatever is honest and accurate in the rest of the text, mind you, if it's who I think it is he's never been one of the sharpest tools in the box.

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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2014, 08:00:26 AM »
That was my initial reaction Terry, it was the McCloud dream gone wrong but in reading it all it stopped making sense. The man from the telly went away and left the Housing Association holding his baby and quite a handful it turned out to be. They are doing their best but it is an uphill struggle to the extent they are not at all responsive to my colleague as he tries to deal with a rather important tenant complaint. Again the dear old Adver fails in it investigative journalism duty. Could that be because they are so close to the cause of the problems having been supportive of the schemes in the first place.
The lesson has still not been learnt by the “Council”, beware of spivs bearing good publicity opportunities.

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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2014, 12:41:02 PM »
There is a warning in amongst all this I think. The photo of the houses in question, available on the Adver link) matches quite well with a photo on the web-site of Crocodile Packaging, SBC's partner in the Croft School building. (Crocodile Packaging have now sold off their prefabricated building business I understand.)

By the way, a little bird told me that the acoustics at the Croft Primary School are terrible. Perhaps the Cosmic Geomantic alignment, i.e. parallel with the road like all other buildings, was not correct?

That isn't the warning. If it is true that the "Eco" features of the new houses at Park North did not produce the saving required, are SBC /SCS really the right people to build a Combined Heat and Power Plant for the Oasis / North Star area? The funding for the set up of this project is presently under discussion at Cabinet, I believe.

If it is true that SBC couldn't get a few solar panels on the roofs of these houses to work, are they really the right people to connect a Solar Farm at Wroughton up to the National Grid?

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Re: Eco -Friendly Homes
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2014, 01:15:30 PM »
There is a warning in amongst all this I think. The photo of the houses in question, available on the Adver link) matches quite well with a photo on the web-site of Crocodile Packaging, SBC's partner in the Croft School building. (Crocodile Packaging have now sold off their prefabricated building business I understand.)

They look identical, right down to the fencing. Do I sense a slight whiff of Makerel in the air ?