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« on: March 14, 2014, 07:05:41 PM »
for as long as I can remember, when I have had to go into town, for anything that wont take long, I have always parked in station road, the bit from whitehouse bridges which goes right up to county road. on that part of the road up to the first junction with a street, you could park for a maximum of two hours and not park again within 1 hour. so this morning as I had to pick up a hoover from Graces in Manchester road, I went to park in the road and do my thing, when I got out of my car, I noticed that all the parking signs are now gone and in their place is 'residents parking only permit J.
is this council so strapped for cash they have sunk to this, what next.... :WTF:



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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2014, 07:15:05 PM »
Bob Wright will know the answer T, but there are other places but not so near unfortunately.

Anyway when Fleming Way is closed you will be gridlocked into the whole of that area so get your Hoover's fixed quickly everyone!!

and it is all designed to enable a Town Centre Shopping Experience or that is what we are being told, anyway.

Won't be long before Garry's footfall will be in decline.
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Re: parking
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2014, 08:37:44 PM »
Reviews of parking in general has been an area of focus for the central locality for some time and I think zone J was the main area being reviewed as part of the resident's parking element. 

If this has recently happened, I suspect it's in response to the resident's requesting it.  As Richard says. Bob will know more.

Wider reviews of parking in my area have also been under way for some time and I understand that will result in event day parking restrictions near the County Ground.  I am yet to see what this will look like, but I understand from Bob that it will involve an experimental traffic order.

Bob, any news on this?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2014, 12:06:44 AM »
Kohima - I am not sure if I am the right person to respond, looking at recent Liberal campaigning letters they are taking credit for other Resident Parking changes.

Zone 'J'

In response to residents requests the council has been asked to try to find additional Residents Parking spaces in the Town Centre area. Consultation took place for Zone 'J' and an experimental traffic order is being put in place. It is anticipated that the changes will produce around 100 additional parking spaces. To achieve this limited waiting spaces have realigned to different locations, this includes changing spaces on Station Road. Resiting Limited Waiting spaces was one of the ways gains could be made however this is under review as part of the experiment. I am not quite sure how the Council has sunk when it is in response to residents? It would have been easier to leave things as they were but that was not was requested.

Other Zones are going through the same process.

The changes in the Shrivenham Road area are still going ahead. Again it is an experimental order. This is a new concept which will need a traffic regulation order. This has to go through a legal process which has time dependent stages. The finance is in place and it will need a new type of signage and controls. There are specific restrictions for matches and event days only.





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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 11:55:24 AM »
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I am not sure if I am the right person to respond, looking at recent Liberal campaigning letters they are taking credit for other Resident Parking changes.

... Are you saying that they're trying to claim credit for changes OUTSIDE their own ward....? (Like the Libs or loathe them - the local changes have been popular with a majority of residents as far as I can tell.)

Our next Eastcott parking battle (and one which other adjacent zones ought to be aware) is as a result of ... guess what?... ANOTHER stonking great big oversight by Planning: The new Regents has plenty of car parking BUT it will be charged.

Unfortunately, as the Morrisons, Cinema (and presumably all of the bars and restaurants) will be open 7 days a week, what's the obvious ramification? It'll be free-for-all parking in surrounding residents zones on the one day of the week in which there are no restrictions or enforcement; Sunday

A lack of joined up thinking or consideration once again from the committees who sit, rubber stamping rather than earning their money by acting in the best interests of the residents.

Despite the obviousness of what's going to happen, APPARENTLY planning and Highways have both sat with thumbs up their posteriors, waiting for trouble and complaint BEFORE any problem is addressed.

Business as usual as far as residents are concerned - and yet another example (if any were needed) of how SBC serves the public interest...  :(
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Re: parking
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 02:02:36 PM »
The changes in the Shrivenham Road area are still going ahead. Again it is an experimental order. This is a new concept which will need a traffic regulation order. This has to go through a legal process which has time dependent stages. The finance is in place and it will need a new type of signage and controls. There are specific restrictions for matches and event days only.

Thanks for the update Bob.  I am slightly concerned that you're not detailing the timescales for when this will be in place.  I recall that you have said that this is a 6 month experiment and Junab Ali has said that feedback will be taken during that time and changes may then be made, otherwise it becomes permanent or scrapped altogether.

You mention that there is a process to all of this, but given the 6 month experiment and the football season ending in a couple of months, is the council ensuring that this experiment is carried out during the football season and not in the months when events at the County Ground will be minimal or none existent?

This may seem like an obvious point, but as we can from Tobes' comments above, it's the obvious issues that seem to be overlooked.

Finally, is there anything that you can do to try and get greater enforcement of the yellow lines on Shrivenham Road during match days while we wait for all of this to happen?

The other night people simply removed the cones from the junction of Shrivenham Road and the magic roundabout so that they could park there while other cars parked on the other side of Shrivenham road, on double yellows and effectively created a  double chicane .  As far as I could see the ample policing sitting in the County Ground car park did nothing to prevent this and no traffic wardens were anywhere to be seen.  The cones are actually placed on double yellow lines, so there's no reason that I can see why this isn't enforced.

This is preventing cars entering Shrivenham Road if anyone is coming the other way, which, after a match, usually involves a significant number of cars pouring out of Shrivenham Road.

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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 04:31:16 PM »
Bob, Im sure it is a good thing for residents to have parking places, but as I said, when I parked there and it was about 11.30 or around that time, there was just two cars in the entire road, mine and a taxi...
I wonder also what the firms on Manchester road will say if they realise that people are not going to stop now...

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2014, 11:37:14 PM »
Tobes - I try to be balanced with credit for work. The savings which the Libdems are claiming came from the work of Officers mainly responding to suggestions from all members of the Residents Parking group. The Libdems did not let other councillors in the group know of their intentions to claim credit for the reduction and as no Libdems attended the last meeting of the group I suspect they already had things set up with the Tories prior to the budget amendment. The personalised letter that one individual distributed by hand almost immediately after the council meeting indicates pre-planned Libdem/Tory behaviour. We have a local coalition in Swindon and some may see this as clever I see it as part of Pinocchio Politics.

Now to balance things up. The Libdems did try to get protection for the area behind the new Regents development. I was present at the planning meeting and they did raise issues which could affect the area including late night noise, late night movements of patrons and others and parking.

Kohima - I am not disputing your observations. This information can contribute to any changes in the experimental order. Similar observation have been made elsewhere in the area which could lead to changes.

Alligator - I will try to get an update on progress. The plan is to have the scheme in place for the new season, your recall is correct.

I will take your information on the cones and yellow line parking to the Police and Council.  I will also try to find out why between the Football Club and Officers how this has slipped.

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« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2014, 07:48:14 PM »
went into town this morning on the bus, when we got to manchester road, the bus had to either stop or give way at least 4 times, due to the number of cars parked in the street, no sign of any warden or tickets on the windscreens, and when I had finished my jobs, I took a walk to station road, and there were 4 cars parked along the length of the street, so the residents really want to park there and also need to use Manchester road as a car park as well..

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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2014, 03:35:25 PM »
just dropped a friend off at the station, so came back along station road to the transfer bridges roundabout, and yes the left had side of station road, where you could park for up to 2 hours, and is now resident only parking, was completely empty....... :WTF:

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« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2014, 03:55:47 PM »
Is that so that when the residents come back they can park outside their houses, do you think?
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2014, 05:24:50 PM »
mugs, can you say how many houses there are in that street, how many of that number work on a Saturday, how many are parked in Manchester road clogging that up, and when it was 2 hour parking, at least there were cars parked there..

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2014, 06:17:33 PM »
Is that so that when the residents come back they can park outside their houses, do you think?

Aren't you a little surprised that on a Saturday that Station Road was completely empty M?

How many of the locals works away from the area on a Saturday, presumably you know, to say they need to park outside their houses?
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2014, 06:39:50 PM »
Perhaps they are holiday, taking the kids swimming, no generally Saturday is a day to go out. Must they stay in to prove they need parking?
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2014, 08:19:43 PM »
They don't need to prove anything, but surely if it was put back to how it was, with the residents allowed to park at will, with permits, then that cant be a bad thing can it..

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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 01:27:14 PM »
Went into town this morning to buy tickets for the railway special that runs every Saturday this month, to Weymouth.
I drove round the block so I could park in the new layby, opposite the GW hotel, but when I got there it was full, and 4 of the cars were taxis waiting for work and on the opposit side of the road, which has double yellow lines down it to the junction with the side street, there were 3 taxis parked there, so it seems the traffic wardens not only don't do their job in Gorsehill, but outside the station as well, I went down and parked in the newly reopened 2 hour parking in station road and walked back..

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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 07:27:19 PM »
Terry. You can also park for free at the station in the short stay car park up the ramp by the taxi office. I think you get 20 minutes for free, but you still have to print and display the free ticket from the machine.

I often use this car park when picking up pre-paid train tickets as the layby is usually full.