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Labour Hypocrites meeting
« on: January 11, 2014, 02:31:55 PM »
Went to the gathering in the town centre this morning, to see the lads in action, got a leaflet pressed into my hands, saying that the man in the street was now £1600 worse off, so I asked for a p60 this year and last to prove it, no they said not wages, just the cost of living,

so if you believe this rubbish, then if they get in next year, come 2020, you will still be able to buy goods at todays prices and under them there will be no col rise!!!.

one lady came forward to say that she works in a factory full time, her husband works full time for DHL, and they cant afford to heat more than 1 room in their house at a time. she thought a labour gov would change all this and was happy to vote for them. Now is she disillusioned or just living in coockoo land... I did ask about the 29% rise when milliband was eng sec but Ms Harman was having none of that...
 I didn't ask about immigration as  I didn't want to be called a bigot...
happy days.... turnout very poor by the way, and yes annie was there with the photos, didn't see a carrier bag though.. :coffee:



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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 06:08:27 PM »
Jealous, or just frightened of facts, none wonders? :bottom:

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 09:53:32 PM »
you only get jealous Morsey, if its something you either want or like or would desire to have done yourself,
Ms Harman, snelgrove and co are not on my list in those views. 
Its a pity she didn't have the guts to say to that lady, instead of thinking oh good anohter labour vote, to tell the lady she must be living beyond her means.. but hey, that's life, rollon another 5 or 10 years and the country, if they get in, will be bankrupt again..
imagine, £64,000 a year, and she was claiming for a carrier bag on expenses....
Harman in the late 80s, was parcel to a vote for the age with children to be lowered to 14.... :WTF:

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 10:19:49 AM »
missed a bit there on the last line, should have read the age of children to have sex with to be lowered to 14..
In the papers today, while the commons had an important vote on an issue of gambling machines and the effect on children, Harman and her mp husband were on holiday in Burma....

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 12:29:48 PM »
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one lady came forward to say that she works in a factory full time, her husband works full time for DHL, and they cant afford to heat more than 1 room in their house at a time. she thought a labour gov would change all this and was happy to vote for them. Now is she disillusioned or just living in coockoo land...

I'm a little confused by this - if they are both working full-time and on basic minimum wage, they must still be bringing in a combined income of £30k... and they still can't afford to make ends meet?!

 :WTF:

... Talk about delusional. I've no doubt that there are people in genuine hardship at the moment - but being unable or unwilling to manage your household budgets to that extent sounds like a pretty poor plea for 'poverty'. It also shows how warped expectations in some quarters have become as to the role of the state.

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 01:29:09 PM »
the current state of this party, I wouldn't even bet that she was a 'plant', go make things look even better!!!!!!!!
and as I said if Harman had any sense of credibility, then she would have offered the woman some advice on money\finace problems but no, this was a possible voter, so go gang ho....
There was another young lady, who came up and announced herself as a 'new labour voter' and wanted to join the party, she then spent the rest of the time I was there, like some prima donna, who had wet her knickers....... Im surprised she didn't shake my hand it was that bad.... :2funny:

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 02:00:28 PM »
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one lady came forward to say that she works in a factory full time, her husband works full time for DHL, and they cant afford to heat more than 1 room in their house at a time. she thought a labour gov would change all this and was happy to vote for them. Now is she disillusioned or just living in coockoo land...

I'm a little confused by this - if they are both working full-time and on basic minimum wage, they must still be bringing in a combined income of £30k... and they still can't afford to make ends meet?!

 :WTF:

... Talk about delusional. I've no doubt that there are people in genuine hardship at the moment - but being unable or unwilling to manage your household budgets to that extent sounds like a pretty poor plea for 'poverty'. It also shows how warped expectations in some quarters have become as to the role of the state.

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If it's minimum wage chances are they've got a joint income of £25,000 (based on 38hrs per week), which will be around £22,000 after tax.

There's clearly a lot going on that we don't know about if they can't manage to live off that.

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 04:24:56 PM »
Well for one, I cant see DHL staff on minimum wages.
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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2014, 11:52:25 AM »
It would appear that Labour are blatantly launching their a pre-election campaign by adopting a 'scripted' series of issues that they insist people are suffering from, presumably based on some focus group or think tank report.

I find this really quite sad that in today's world where we arguably have even more information available at our finger tips, we have the political parties trying to preach to us about what is actually happening.  A well informed public is seen as a threat and their response to this is to tell people what is wrong rather than asking them.

First of all it was the energy pricing debate, where the significant double digit annual rises under the Labour government are swept aside and instead the focus is on rises under a ConDem government.

Now we have the cost of living and train fares are what we're being told matter.  I'm not denying that these issues aren't causing people pain, but I think the sidestepping of the fact that they existed prior to 2010 is simply ridiculous.  These nationally 'scripted' issues and point scoring jibes seem to be overshadowing  what should be a two-way local interaction between politicians and the public.

While Opportunity Anne has always been her party's representative in Swindon and certainly acted that way when in parliament, I really hope that people can see through this.

To me, it's an obvious attempt by a political party to focus attention on those issues where they think will win them votes and away from those issues where they haven't got the answers or are running scared of their track record.  In short it highlights their own self interest and the low regard they hold the public in and how stupid they think we all are.

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2014, 12:26:51 PM »
Ive forward the Alan Titchmarsh web site to Ms Harman, she should be able to get some good plants from him for the town centre. :2funny:

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Re: Labour Hypocrites meeting
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2014, 12:47:09 PM »
@ Alligator - Post of the week as far as I'm concerned  :clap:

Yup - its business as usual in politi-land. And what genuinely scares the shit out of me is Labours utter inability to grasp the nettle.

As political movements, neither main party appear to be about anything except the acquisition of power. They don't seem to be seeking to achieve a democratic mandate through empathy or a real in-depth understanding of the mean-average experience, instead its done by a salami-slicing dissection of 'key issues', cherry picked for sound-bite opportunism and for policy potential. These are then repeated back to us loudly and continuously until the population itself perceives that they're the most important issues, whilst also allowing themselves to be hoodwinked into thinking that either party will actually DO anything about them.

Meanwhile, Rome in the form of unregulated cartels, short-termism,  the creep of centralised state power, and a new class system predicated around education and debt, continues to burn ever hotter.

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