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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2012, 01:49:05 AM »
No sighting or mention of a Swindon pound yet, is there ....wonders why ?
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2012, 08:45:44 AM »
The trouble is that they take the money out of our economy and only spend it on their own at home.  Meanwhile our indigenous population either work with them on the minimum wage or take benefit and do nothing to contribute to it and become trapped by that system in some cases for a lifetime.   Anyone any ideas as to how we could change that situation?

Is this a solution to your question  :-\

English people should transfer their families to parts of the Old Soviet Union, supporting them from working in service industry job back here. Whilst living in a bed-sitting room here, paying an extortionate rent to a slum landlord, based upon the artificial property shortage caused by the deliberate maintenance of the property bubble and the unrestricted immigration policies of governments.

If it is the solution that for some people would be wonderful then OK. But it really is difficult for many of us to determine where the Britishworker - hating evil of so many of our politicians ends and straightforward congenital stupidity begins.

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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2012, 09:02:33 AM »
muggins -  perhaps I should have qualified East Europeans by saying transient E. European workers (those that come here for 3-6 months). I've known a good few East Europeans and there are some who've decided to settle here permanently/long term and contribute to the economy much the same as Brits do, thing is they are probably in the minority. 

A lot of them still come to do short term work, will happily sleep several to a room (some grew-up doing this as their homes were so small), they'll use minimum heating (they grew-up where winters could get to -20c), some will even come with a month or so's supply of food, they'll pay taxes but will claim a tax rebate when they leave.  This is all stuff I've either seen with my own eye or East European friends/colleagues have told me that they are doing or people they know are. So compared to someone living here permanently (of whatever nationality) they contribute less.

In my books this is all fair enough and you can't blame them if they can earn a years salary back home for 3-4 months work here.  Didn't British builders do this sort of thing in the 80's and hence inspired auf wiedersehen pet?

I have admiration for "East Europeans" making a huge sacrifice for the sake of their family .

However, it is claimed that it is undercutting the British worker and they are only able to do so because the costs EE are so low .

I find London and political middle classes think they are getting cheaper taxis , plastering , extensions at the expense of the (now non) working class but in fact they aren’t because the costs of supporting the unemployed Briton are socialised .

How much better that the money gets earned by a Briton and spent in Briton on a British family rather than taken overseas .  :-\
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2012, 09:13:26 AM »

Have we forgotten Auf Wiedersehen Pet

Some of my friends became migrant workers and went to Germany & Spain. Even I carefully considered two migrant jobs. The first crewing on a supertanker [oil*] on the other side of the globe and the second job offer as a mechanic in Bermuda.

*I suppose, had things worked out a little differently I might now be more crude than vile and/or wearing a pair of loud shorts.....

...as it is I'm just loud, vile and here.  :)

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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2012, 09:16:23 AM »
How do you all feel about them Brits that take off to warmer climes and take all their goodies with them, then draw winter fuel payments then?

We'll just gloss over all those places we invaded, took over, gave them Christianity (whether or not they wanted it), sold them as slaves, then took all their goodies, so say by offering them protection. 

As yee sow, so shall yee reap.

Mick: How much better that the money gets earned by a Briton and spent in Briton on a British family rather than taken overseas .

True, but will the Brits do the menial work on the lowest pay?  As it happens not all the EE's are on the lowest pay, perhaps they spent more time on education and learnt something!  And I bet a fair bit of those earnings would be  spent abroad (on holidays) anyway.

Blooming heck, if they took all the immigrants out of Swindon there would be no question of any more development, we'd be back to village status in no time at all - that includes those pesky Welsh, Irish, Scots, Brummies and Geordies. 

Geoff, thankfully then we were saved from the loud shorts!
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2012, 02:13:06 PM »
Where are you all, five hours without a posting!  Am I missing a get together somewhere?
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2012, 02:41:04 PM »
True, but will the Brits do the menial work on the lowest pay?  As it happens not all the EE's are on the lowest pay, perhaps they spent more time on education and learnt something!  And I bet a fair bit of those earnings would be  spent abroad (on holidays) anyway.

If the EE workers live in one room and raises their family in EE where living costs are much much cheaper than the UK.

How can young Britains compete with this worker and have any hope of raising a family here?
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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2012, 03:18:49 PM »
we should stop all foreign aid until this country has no need for any such requirements, we should stop all overseas benefits, if they want to live there then let them enjoy what that country has to offer, how can anybody justify paying heating allowance to those living in Spain or Cyprus, and if these eu workers want to send money back to their 'children', then they should be paid at the rate of their own country and not this one.. :tickedoff:

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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2012, 05:46:51 PM »
I take it you are joking K?

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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2012, 06:03:31 PM »
depends on what you joking about, do you agree with this country's foreign aid programme, where for instance we give aid to Argentina, or to India, or even China?.
do you agree that people living in spain and other countires in warmer climates should  get the winter fuel allowance.
do you agree that people from, say Poland, who claim they have ex amount of children back in Poland, should get the uk rate of child allowance so they can send it back home to buy up properties?
If so, then that is some joke... :wink:

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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2012, 06:12:07 PM »
Kohima, Perhaps you could write to the Primeminister and ask if the public costs associated with EU migrants should be deducted from EU subscription and or overseas aid :-\

Or you could ask him if he is really not an EU supporter if it would have been better to maintain labour movement controls until comparable GDP per capita was equivalent :-\
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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2012, 06:32:38 PM »
The Swindon pound continues to be studiously ignored I see....is that pound one of the 450,000 lost in the WiFi enrichment ?     think not !
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2012, 09:29:23 AM »
The Swindon pound continues to be studiously ignored I see....is that pound one of the 450,000 lost in the WiFi enrichment ?     think not !

Please, Please, Boothill don't give our Roderick any more Innovative and Vibrant ideas to waste our money, he has after all already got enough of his own!!
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2012, 09:50:33 AM »
The Swindon pound continues to be studiously ignored I see....is that pound one of the 450,000 lost in the WiFi enrichment ?     think not !

Please, Please, Boothill don't give our Roderick any more Innovative and Vibrant ideas to waste our money, he has after all already got enough of his own!!

Given the vibrancy of the man he'd probably go for the Swindon Euro (SE) anyway...... (1 SE = 700k GBP)  :laugh:

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2012, 01:21:21 AM »
The Swindon pound continues to be studiously ignored I see....is that pound one of the 450,000 lost in the WiFi enrichment ?     think not !

Please, Please, Boothill don't give our Roderick any more Innovative and Vibrant ideas to waste our money, he has after all already got enough of his own!!

Given the vibrancy of the man he'd probably go for the Swindon Euro (SE) anyway...... (1 SE = 700k GBP)  :laugh:


In that case, would 5 SE be a Bluhy ?
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« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2012, 09:12:06 PM »
post presentation report.
went to the meeting, was told it was a council backed idea, so guess its a done deal anyway, the lady who I spoke to, when I asked about water, sewage, schools, traffic could only say that it 'would be sorted'. She didnt think or even know that headlands and wheeler ave, are both rat runs for a way past the crossroads chaos. Her parting words were that this is a brownfield site, the workers have all been told to go anyway, and so they can build what they want.. :wink: