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Offline Bassettina

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2012, 04:30:28 PM »
Does everyone here still hate the Olympics? Sorry to say I am rather enjoying the bits that are on when I'm not at work. Usain Bolt was incredible, but I preferred the steeple-chasers myself. Long distance running combined with hurdles and water jumps. Bizarre. And the Kenyans out perform everyone!

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2012, 11:50:06 PM »
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Does everyone here still hate the Olympics? Sorry to say I am rather enjoying the bits that are on when I'm not at work. Usain Bolt was incredible, but I preferred the steeple-chasers myself. Long distance running combined with hurdles and water jumps. Bizarre. And the Kenyans out perform everyone!

Its not the Olympics I hate per se - its the shameless politicisation and commercialisation which I hate. I have every admiration for the athletes.... well, those who have achieved their skill without recourse to drugs.
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2012, 08:01:04 AM »
I asked for your help and you failed me - all of you, yes, I too got sucked in to the Olympics and have watched some of it.

Tobes, by the news this morning, those politicians and commercial people are not getting the come back they expected.
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2012, 08:22:13 AM »
Sorry Muggins, I was in no position to help, I got sucked in too on Saturday night. It would have been the hight of hypocrisy if I'd tried to lend a hand... :wink:

It was no real surprise that people would be watching the games and avoiding spending unnecessarily in the rest of the country, during a recession.  I wonder if a lot of people feel  as jaded with the commercialisation as we do. It must have been hard enough to afford the tickets and the travelling. Maybe the tide is turning- I notice that James Hunt agreed that it had been a mistake to sell off all the sports fields and that "lessons were being learned..."   

Where are the people with common sense?

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2012, 09:07:40 AM »
Alex, "Where are the people with common sense?"

Staying away from the Limpics  :-\
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2012, 04:53:17 PM »
I rather liked the comments of Bradley Wiggins who said that the real fans were outside the stadiums. We know about the ticketing he said. I presume he meant that most people couldn't afford the tickets.

Meanwhile behind all the hysteria we see that the government is (hopefully) beginning to fall apart.

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2012, 06:57:52 PM »
It maybe a struggle Martin, but do you have any real alternative to replace them........ :wink:

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2012, 07:54:35 PM »
I read this a few minutes ago:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ? Alexis de Tocqueville

Not sure if it is as accurate as it is eloquent but I do kind of get it.

I haven't had a Government I liked for bleedin years. Too many professional polticians as evidenced by the latest crop gurning their bloody heads off with people they won't give 2 sh!ts about once the furore of the televised P.E. dies away.

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2012, 08:28:59 PM »
Not much reporting on the news about this;

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/06/254692/none-of-insurgents-were-syrian/

None of insurgents were Syrian: UK journalist

A British photographer who was captured by insurgents in Syria has said that his captors were foreign extremists including several Britons with “not a Syrian in sight”.


On July 19, freelance photographer John Cantile, alongside his Dutch colleague Jeroen Oerlemans, was kidnapped in northern Syrian and freed one week later.

Cantile said he was held in a camp by 30 foreign extremists including some from Britain and Pakistan. He also revealed that some of his captors were “young men with south London accents”.

“They were aiming their Kalashnikovs at a British journalist, Londoner against Londoner in a rocky landscape that looked like the Scottish Highlands”, said Cantile.

The British photographer also disclosed that some of the insurgents could not even speak Arabic, with around a dozen of his captors speaking English out of whom nine spoke with London accents.

“Not a Syrian in sight. This wasn't what I had expected”, Cantile added. “Two of them were so Anglicised they couldn't speak Arabic”.

Earlier last week, British Foreign Secretary William Hague promised to step up support for armed rebels in Syria while he had already insisted that Britain should be acting outside the UN Security Council.

Britain’s Foreign Office has confirmed that Cantile had been held captive in a camp in Syria but has refused to confirm that Britons were among the insurgents inside Syria.

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2012, 08:50:55 PM »
Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Iranians do not speak Arabic either. They learn Koranic words and the Arabic salutations and usually that's it.

It's unlikely that descendants of muslim immigrants that are not regular attendees of a mosque, got a poor education and are unemployed and have formed their own under-class, can use any language competently. Instead they are part of a forgotten group to which the terrorist recruiters are drawn.
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2012, 09:39:12 PM »
Not much reporting on the news about this;

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/08/06/254692/none-of-insurgents-were-syrian/


presstv.ir - Isn't that an Iranian state-controlled channel? (Happy to be corrected if it's not, whois.net didn't want to tell me anything about it). If so, then I'd give it about as much credibility as the likes of Fox News. The powers that be in Iran are strong supporters of the powers that be in Syria.

Auntie Beeb picked up on this story (although I guess it didn't make the headlines what with all the gold medals in the olympics)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19136630

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Syria conflict: Photographers' UK jihadist claim considered
Jeroen Oerlemans (left), Shane Bell from the New York Times and John Cantlie John Cantlie (right) and fellow photographer Jeroen Oerlemans (left) were threatened with death

Reports that Britons were among Islamist militants who kidnapped and wounded two photographers in Syria are being taken "very seriously" by ministers, the Foreign Office has said.

The claims were made by photographers John Cantlie and Jeroen Oerlemans, who were held at a camp for a week in July.

The Foreign Office said it was closely "monitoring the situation".

The Free Syrian Army group, which is part of the opposition trying to oust Bashar al-Assad, helped them to escape.

Mr Cantlie, who is British, and his Dutch colleague, Mr Oerlemans, were both wounded in a "shooting gallery" as their thwarted captors fired after the fleeing men.

The kidnapping took place amid the ongoing conflict in Syria.

Heavy fighting is continuing in the country's second city, Aleppo, amid concerns that the army will launch a full-scale assault within days.

Activists say more than 20,000 people - mostly civilians - have died in 17 months of unrest.

Jihadists - those committed to establishing an Islamic state by violent means - have started to be seen on the battlefield in Syria.

The FSA is said to be scrutinising jihadists in Syria very closely.

They are considered to be "a real threat after the Assad regime falls", a senior FSA officer told the BBC.

Mr Cantlie told BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House programme he and his colleague were regularly threatened with death.

"When you're held captive, you're blindfolded and you have a guy sticking a gun at your head, it's very real," he said.

"It was inferred that we would meet our God. We had sowed the seeds of our own destruction. We would be shot or beheaded.

"At one point they even started sharpening knives for a beheading. It was pretty frightening."

The photographer said he entered Syria across the border with Turkey, using the same route and guide that he had earlier in the year.

But on this occasion he and his companions were detained after passing through a camp inhabited by Islamic jihadists who, he said, were not from Syria.

"They were from anywhere but Syria," he told the BBC.

"They were from Pakistan, Bangladesh, the UK and Chechnya. A real mix."

He said there were "between 10 and 15 young jihadists from the UK" who he described as being "a mixed bunch".

Some seemed "shocked at what had happened" and may have left the camp, arguing that it was not what they had come for.

Other British captors were described by him as being "vindictive".

Footage from Al Arabiya shows 48 Iranians kidnapped in Syria on Saturday, as the BBC's Jim Muir reports

The photojournalist said: "I think these are disenchanted young men from the UK who are now unified under this jihadist banner. I think they took out their angst on us."

Mr Oerlemans has already told Dutch media that some of the captors were British.

A Foreign Office spokesman said the government "takes very seriously any claims or reports that indicate there are British nationals amongst foreign fighters in Syria".

He said: "We are monitoring the situation as closely as possible. Clearly, the deteriorating security situation in Syria leaves a dangerous space for foreign fighters.

"The solution lies in securing robust international action to resolve the crisis."

Mr Cantlie and his Dutch colleague escaped when four members of the FSA intervened and gave the photographers an opportunity to flee the camp.

The pair ran amidst a hail of bullets which he likened to "a shooting gallery". Both were shot.

Mr Cantlie was shot in the arm and a bullet passed through Mr Oerlemans's thigh.


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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #71 on: August 09, 2012, 12:28:37 PM »
I'm concerned about what a sanitised version of world events we are getting because so much air-time is devoted to the Olympics.

 I haven't heard anything about what is going on in Iceland for instance ... I hear they have had a peaceful revolution.....

http://wakeup-world.com/2012/05/25/the-silent-revolution-icelandic-anger-debt-forgiveness-and-activist-triumph/

 is it deliberate that we are being prevented from knowing  how other countries are dealing with their problems- in case we copy them?

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« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2012, 12:34:51 PM »
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #73 on: August 12, 2012, 07:53:50 AM »
Apparently it cost £26,000,000 to put on the opening ceremony.

2,000,000 people have attended as spectators. Pretty expensive per capita!

To watch 302 medal ceremonies.
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #74 on: August 12, 2012, 02:32:19 PM »
I thought the olympics were very well run, a very good show for the events that took place, those who did take part should be congratulated on what they acheived, those who bid for the olympics said it would only cost 2 billion need a brush up thier backsides, but then labour never did anything on budget so that how it goes, what must happen now is for these centres to be  utilized fully and not left to rot.  I wont be watching the closing ceremony, as they say the spice girls are taking part, and any event with the wicked witch Beckham in is a no no, I wonder if she will still have the sheep excrement on her face or a even a smile for that matter.. happy days.. :wink:

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #75 on: August 12, 2012, 02:49:32 PM »
Apparently it cost £26,000,000 to put on the opening ceremony.

2,000,000 people have attended as spectators.


It's called the 'WiFi model', except it's cheaper pro rata and they file accounts.
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #76 on: August 12, 2012, 05:29:39 PM »
Not disagreeing with Ko about how well run it is, unless we find later that there was a (did we used to call it a 'D' notice or something?) on it. I have enjoyed dibbing in and out of it and some imagination has been used for the sites of different sports and courses. I hope those that visit from abroad based on what they have seen will not be disappointed.

I will be watching the closing ceremony.  I will tell you all about it tomorrow Ko. And back to hating sport.
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #77 on: August 12, 2012, 06:51:32 PM »
I bumped into a man yesterday in Comet.
We were stood admiring the latest Samsung series 8 or 9 smart TV which happened to be showing some Olympic footage.

He engaged in conversation about the Olympics and said how well team GB were doing.
I thought , he obviously watches it, but he then turned round and said "you know why we are doing so well don't you" ?  I said why whats your theory as to why we are doing well.

He replied with " well its because it's in the UK innit, and they ain't gotta travel ( the participants).
He then went on to say " more of em have entered , that's why, because it's in our country". " when the Olympics is hosted overseas, not many of our lot enter because it costs money to go abroad and without funding they can't do it can they"?

I sort of grunted and nodded, and on thinking about it, did he have a point?
He also went on to say how much it's going to cost us in the long run.

He was obviously weighing it all up.
Does he have a point though?

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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #78 on: August 12, 2012, 07:22:41 PM »
I don't usually notice advertisements in the Sunday papers but in today I did:-

A big Thank You to all who play the Lottery, thanking us for our contribution to this years Olympics by funding and supporting althete's.  That's the way to do it!   

Come to think of it, perhaps that's the answer to our funding problems - The Penhill Lottery!
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Re: Why I'm boycotting the Olympics
« Reply #79 on: August 12, 2012, 09:01:01 PM »
when the next big o comes around, I hope they get better return for the money funded ie the swimmers got around 25 million in help and in return got two bronze medals, the judo team got about 7 million and got one medal. makes you wonder what they were being taught at these help days for the events..... :wink: