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Offline James

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Letters in the SBC offices...
« on: June 20, 2012, 02:17:28 PM »
Heard a whisper that a number of people had received "at risk"/"redundancy notices" in SBC today.

Can anyone confirm the truth or scale this please?

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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 11:07:25 PM »
Its been happening all the time, i normally get facebooked by old colleagues when its bad. That hasn't happened for a couple of weeks now.

I expect there's no one left.

Many who were restructured into SCS have been told recently who has a job there or not. Thats certainly not looking good. :( especially for the grounds maintenance teams

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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2012, 08:36:22 AM »
From what we are hearing generally (nothing yet in particular) I can't see that this is the last restructure and that there will be more redundancies.
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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2012, 02:02:07 PM »
Have they got rid of all the staff who do the green bag collections, the orange boxes and the street lighting? In Broadway we are awaiting ALL THREE to be sorted! Still, with Moredon being 3 x Labour Councillors now, we are getting the same treatment here as we had when we lived in Western Ward! :argh:

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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2012, 09:58:12 AM »
 :'(A little update on the lighting farce ... half of Broadway has been in total darkness now since JUNE 15th. THREE OFFICERS at the Council have apparently been dismissed as the blame is pointed towards the street lighting contractor, Scottish & Southern, the task of fixing a line fault in fout lamp posts is out of the ability afforded to SBC.

Numerous phone calls, texts and direct speach to Council personnel, PLUS the efforts of Des Moffatt, have TOTALLY FAILED TO RESOLVE THIS!

There are residents in their 80s and 90's included in the 25 or so Council Tax payers along this stretch whose homes are in complete blackout. There are steps and paths up and down to properties and there is a cul-de-sac turnaround at the end. It is an accident awaiting, but do the powers that be give a sh1t ... do they hell.

I last spoke to Des a fortnight ago, so I have no meore recent an update, though I was given TWO officer's email addresses who have taken over from Mr Wightman, and emailed them over a week ago and they have not even bothered to respond with a receipt email!!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AT THE COUNCIL DEPARTMENTS ... Do the Council have outstanding debt with Scottish & Southern, have they washed their hands of any repairs which crop up ... ARE THEY BANKRUPT???

I cannot understand why it is so difficult to provide the services we are paying for ... I even suggested a temporary street lighting ... thay can put a string of lights up at Christmas, so why not do that now ... myself and my neighbours don't know what we have to do to get this sorted ... Council takes Council Tax every month on Direct Debit, but services are an utter disgrace!

Anyone got a clue what we can do next, though I don't really think the media will be interested as we are in a triple Labour Councillor Ward and we all know the Tories favour their own ... whatever are they going to do next for Goddard Avenue, Westlecot Road and Belmont Crescent ... there's always money available there ... it's bloody laughable, is this town!!! :popcorn: :argh:

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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2012, 12:16:12 PM »
get together as a group and everybody refuse to pay the council tax until the situation has been repaired.  If the coun leader or anybody else starts up, just ask for fairness and a bit of instant repair, which they would get if the shoe was on the other foot... ring your mp, ring the adver, ring the western daily press, ring bbc points west etc etc, and give them hell..
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2012, 06:10:26 PM »
and please do not forget Private Eye.........

I am sure they are compiling something more on Swindon for their Rotten Boroughs column!!
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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2012, 09:11:16 PM »
:'(A little update on the lighting farce ... half of Broadway has been in total darkness now since JUNE 15th. THREE OFFICERS at the Council have apparently been dismissed as the blame is pointed towards the street lighting contractor, Scottish & Southern, the task of fixing a line fault in fout lamp posts is out of the ability afforded to SBC.

Numerous phone calls, texts and direct speach to Council personnel, PLUS the efforts of Des Moffatt, have TOTALLY FAILED TO RESOLVE THIS!

There are residents in their 80s and 90's included in the 25 or so Council Tax payers along this stretch whose homes are in complete blackout. There are steps and paths up and down to properties and there is a cul-de-sac turnaround at the end. It is an accident awaiting, but do the powers that be give a sh1t ... do they hell.

I last spoke to Des a fortnight ago, so I have no meore recent an update, though I was given TWO officer's email addresses who have taken over from Mr Wightman, and emailed them over a week ago and they have not even bothered to respond with a receipt email!!

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AT THE COUNCIL DEPARTMENTS ... Do the Council have outstanding debt with Scottish & Southern, have they washed their hands of any repairs which crop up ... ARE THEY BANKRUPT???

I cannot understand why it is so difficult to provide the services we are paying for ... I even suggested a temporary street lighting ... thay can put a string of lights up at Christmas, so why not do that now ... myself and my neighbours don't know what we have to do to get this sorted ... Council takes Council Tax every month on Direct Debit, but services are an utter disgrace!

Anyone got a clue what we can do next, though I don't really think the media will be interested as we are in a triple Labour Councillor Ward and we all know the Tories favour their own ... whatever are they going to do next for Goddard Avenue, Westlecot Road and Belmont Crescent ... there's always money available there ... it's bloody laughable, is this town!!! :popcorn: :argh:

Paul. :coolsmiley:

Scottish and Southern Electric are the people who installed the surprise Electricity Substation on Hesketh Crescent for the Croft School ( a mystery to us all... wasn't on any plans).  SBC/SCS have got staff working outside of planning approval hours on and around the Croft School and the roads.

There are stacks of subcontractors..

I am guessing that all of these folks are on overtime rates.

If you want to know where all this money is coming from ask Mr Jones , CEO at gjones@swindon.gov.uk and his buddy rbluh@swindon.gov.uk

Maybe that's why you are having problems getting things fixed?

Good Luck!
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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2012, 11:07:34 PM »
Wait until something happens you can sue SBC for...

As they are being negligent in not maintaining or providing adequate services then they would be at fault.

Sad that it should have to get to that though.

The street services department has been decimated by Bluh and Co. If you want your lights sorted , grass cut or recycling collected you might as well do it your self, because all the people who used to ensure that problems got sorted have been sacked.

Would the last person providing front line services to Swindon please turn off the light as they leave.......
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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2012, 08:37:24 AM »
It's not only Street services, Teaboy.  The rest is just not so noticeable YET. 

If the sacking of direct Borough workers and replacing them with contractors is supposed to work - it doesn't!   

I just wonder how long it will be when the last Swindon community Charge payer to 'engage', will realise it.  In continuing with these policies depend on the huge silent majority staying that way or those that have engaged being slapped back down into submission.

For instance Jennyb and those that have worked so hard against and keeping an eye on the Croft issue, are you now engaged forever?  Or are you getting to the stage that you will have to cut that part out of your life to remain sane? 
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2012, 09:33:11 AM »
For instance Jennyb and those that have worked so hard against and keeping an eye on the Croft issue, are you now engaged forever?  Or are you getting to the stage that you will have to cut that part out of your life to remain sane?

Residents Parking got me engaged, or enraged, I'd always had a dim view of national government because each election just seemed to be a corporate rebadging exercise, overnight everything that was right would be redesignated wrong and everything that was wrong would become vital.

Locally I'd assumed things were run by a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs who were largely harmless, had an affection for the area they professed to represent and generally just bimbled along getting bins emptied.

I was soon disabused of that notion. Turns out there is a significant proportion of our representatives who have an 'agenda', a desire for legacies and a disturbing propensity for visions and will, so far, stop at nothing to pursue their agenda, leave their legacies and inflict their visions.

The growing list of AVL's (agenda vision legacies) follow the same path every time. An introduction via glossy leaflets, DVD perhaps, photo opportunities and the mystifying proclamation that a much voiced need is being fulfilled. Anyone who is not rendered speechless with joy and gratitude is an ungrateful shit who will, verily, be smitten on a weekly basis from the leader's column and generally vilified as a communist, nazi, liar or loon.

Information will be sparse and selective but the methods of vision realisation are always innovative, the risks negligible, the costs a mere trifle and the opportunities limitless and consultation, should you need reminding, confirm that a much voiced need is being fulfilled.

Then, as the AVL starts to turn into an expensive pile of near useless cack the information flow ceases. Questions about progress go unanswered and the evidence of your own eyes is discounted, history is rewritten and costs go hurtling off in all kinds of directions. It then becomes clear that this deviation form vision is solely the fault of communists, nazis and loons.

There has to be a limit and how many times they can get away with this at the expense of doing what they should be doing. So either muttering abuse or analytical dismantling is essential if that limit is ever going to be reached.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2012, 10:13:39 AM »
And keeping that history when it was written, and later when it was enacted, aye Mart.

We'll call it Evidence!

I got engaged a lot easier and has it happened more strategic.  Joining community groups for something repsectable to do, what REALLY switched me on was that Northern Development and the promises SBC Thamesdown Council) made as policy (the only policy I had heard of before was an insurance policy) but failed to keep to.   

I honestly beleive that when policy and plans where written then , the intention was to TRY to keep to them.  After while the policy turned to guidelines.  Some of the problems was the policies had not reached the actual workers, so we (on the outside, who at least had the opportunity to help write them (via consultation) knew them better than those that were supposed to be helping deliver them.

Then more recently things began to move so fast that a policy would barely be written and launched before it was quietly shelved. Even more recently, I don't see any new policies plans coming out at all. Frightening stuff.

We've GOT to have people out here contributing to this level of democracy, because our councillors are too busy melding it to their party line and in one case apprently keeping it close to their chest and not sharing it.

So we can;t get them to see that?   We have just got to keep trying.





 
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Re: Letters in the SBC offices...
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2012, 11:43:25 AM »



The growing list of AVL's (agenda vision legacies) follow the same path every time. An introduction via glossy leaflets, DVD perhaps, photo opportunities and the mystifying proclamation that a much voiced need is being fulfilled. Anyone who is not rendered speechless with joy and gratitude is an ungrateful shit who will, verily, be smitten on a weekly basis from the leader's column and generally vilified as a communist, nazi, liar or loon.



Surely Mart, you are not talking about our wonderful leader Cllr Bluh - the good public of the old town clearly loved him so much they re-elected him.

I agree that no sane person could understand how they could. I am therefore clearly barking.

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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2012, 03:45:52 PM »
I am eternally regretful that Bluh is not an anagram for one of the extensive list of four letter words in my vocabulary.

However, I am a poor speller when a situation demands.

What a complete and utter knob.

See what I mean, got one letter right, got another one where I use 'U' and add wit.
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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2012, 10:48:22 AM »
Maybe it's redundacy packages?  Yes, under a heading to cover all ... 'People Are Living Longer' ... there seems to be a contradiction as this Council, apart from giving away assets as little gifts ofetn with the goodwill of the Oppositon, are hiding what must be costing millions of pounds from the coffers.

If they cannot provide the basics to the Council Tax payer, like street lighting in at risk areas, then something is drastically wrong with the system? 

The Sadver reports, in a small, tucked away article, that there are going to be 'alleviating shortfall' cuts to the discount on Council Tax paymets for those with low incomes and I understand that Child Benefit will be classed as income.  I totally agree with the latter, but the discount, means tested CT benefits are something to concern, I would have thought?

ANOTHER REVELATION TOWARDS THIS COUNCIL'S ROAD TO BANKRUPTCY!  At times of high inflation, it's hard to see how they decided not to raise Council Tax just a bit to offset extra costs incurred?  The Tories main political ploy always seems to be loc Council Tax, then they cannot operate the basic services to the public ... they are a real shambles!

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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2012, 08:02:59 PM »
ANOTHER REVELATION TOWARDS THIS COUNCIL'S ROAD TO BANKRUPTCY!  At times of high inflation, it's hard to see how they decided not to raise Council Tax just a bit to offset extra costs incurred?

Or they could stop 'outsourcing' and consequently paying 800 quid for a bogseat.

Then again, outsource by all means, but only to firms based in an SN postcode, spend it like you earned it. You don't have to pay travelling time from feckin Cardiff then.

Simple.
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