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Offline bobwright

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Re: Ides of March - Cabinet rushes to exchange contracts in next 9 days...
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2012, 01:54:02 AM »
You might be interested in some personal notes I made on the recent April Pickards Fields meeting, other politicans views and notes may differ.

?   The purpose of the meeting was to provide a framework for the future development
?   Misleading language is being used to justify the development. Use of the word ‘redundant’ land has to be 
                challenged, it is being used to colour the picture.
?   The allotment’s former state was due to the failure of council actions to maintain the allotment. Investment was
                lacking, it was not redundancy it was a constructed outcome.
?   The term regeneration is being used for the area when there appears to be no need for such regeneration
?   The local plan from 2006 is being used for legal purposes
?   The draft Core strategy is also being used, the new Core strategy is meant to be finalised in June 2012.
?   The Advertising of Open Space release is due by the end of April and will take around two weeks to prepare. An
                 accurate conveyance plan is required
?   The community can object and the decision will be taken by members, this could be a decision note or a cabinet
                decision
?   The land for release is still the land identified in the cabinet papers
?   Ward members will be informed about the plan to release the land and this may be in the member’s bulletin
?   The project is based on having enough density to make the scheme work
?   The 40% social housing number is being used as an Achilles heel of opponents
?   The need for housing is being used to override the existing community opposition
?   The individual reputation of Kevin McCloud is being put on the line
?   Reputation and acceptance by the community is important
?   The Cinder patch at the entrance which apparently has been maintained by the council is the grounds for adoption
                 (Notice 228). Custom and use may stop this adoption, i.e. car parking
?   A challenge can be made that the £1 million land cost could go into other use and not manicuring the land, this will
                also include 106 money (why no member control on this 106 use?)
?   There is an intention to maintain or provide new changing rooms but this is not at this time contractual
?   Only Haboakus are being considered because they are the only ones offering the quality of build and 40% social
                housing
?   It is a developer led scheme in theory and we have to wait for plans, this is misleading as people can meet planners
                prior to plans to express views.
?   Other Allotment improvements were used to justify the release of land. They would get improved facilities on
                allotments. This did not need a sale for it to happen and indeed a sale has not occurred but some improvements
                have been made.
?   The Administration are using the non-existent new community as the basis for the argument against the current
                community views, this is divisive
?   The Administration think this development will help alleviate flooding in Tiverton Road. If they know there is a
                problem where is this Administrations current plan to stop this happening?
?   Other considered sites for Haboakus did include Wichelstowe but are not as favourable
?   The pretext is that they want to build onto an existing community but it will not be an addition to the same
                community. The same happened at the Triangle, this is artificial and divisive
?   Haboakus have no power over this land proposal but are being allowed to lead. The community have the same
                rights to lead on consultation and use.
?   By the community waiting for the developers plan’s it is legitimising the Haboakus lead and what is going on. The 
               Administration is relying on the process to get the planned outcome through.


Offline Richard Symonds

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Re: Ides of March - Cabinet rushes to exchange contracts in next 9 days...
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2012, 07:10:12 AM »
Grounds for hope that this can be quashed then Bob?

PS don't you sleep at night?
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Re: Ides of March - Cabinet rushes to exchange contracts in next 9 days...
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2012, 08:59:44 AM »
Slightly off topic but educational the Community Chanel are replaying the Castlefield regeneration series, which is by no means the worst of Kevin Mcloed's activites, but it does clearly show how people are manouverd into these schemes. And how the uninitiated can be truly sucked in to the 'benefits' of them.
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Re: Ides of March - Cabinet rushes to exchange contracts in next 9 days...
« Reply #43 on: April 06, 2012, 12:52:36 PM »
The point made by the council that there is a need for housing, surely doesnt stand, when they wont build on Whichelstowe or the rest of that land first?

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Re: Ides of March - Cabinet rushes to exchange contracts in next 9 days...
« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2012, 06:33:34 PM »
I agree with Bob's points almost completely, but would just point out that the land being transferred is NOW what is shown in the cabinet papers...
What we are looking at here is social engineering, the existing community does not count in the minds of some people, it is the new community that they are focusing on.
There is a need for social housing but it is needed throughout Swindon, the reason it is being put forward on this site is not because there is a greater need there than elsewhere, it is purely a commercial consideration, the HCA grant is site specific to Pickards, the number of houses is about commercial viability.
I believe that this is a "legacy project" for some...I will leave it to others to speculate on that one.
I would dearly love to see smaller projects being developed on brownfield sites with the Haboakus ethos. I've said this before, I'll say it again, smaller developments would put less pressure on existing infrastructure and would be less socially divisive.
It's not rocket science.
Oh and not forgetting - urban green space is a precious and dwindling resource and we must fight to preserve it .

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Re: Ides of March - Cabinet rushes to exchange contracts in next 9 days...
« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2012, 06:41:49 PM »
Trouble is Rochelle, whre are the brownfield sites and what would you call a brown field site.

Like everything else, sooner or later brown field sites will/are running out.

Mind there are some nice wide verges over Eldene way!
Oi! Listen mush. Old eyes, remember? I’ve been around the block a few times. More than a few. They’ve knocked down the blocks I’ve been around and rebuilt them as bigger blocks. Super blocks. And I’ve been round them as well.  The Doctor (Night Terrors)