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Swindon: The Opera
« on: February 07, 2012, 04:34:35 AM »

Morning. Long time TS.

So another day, another hearty loving poke from the nation's media.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9064394/Swindon-The-Opera.html

We made the Editorial too, although it seems to have been dropped from the website. Shame as it was beautifully creative for old major 'graph.

I'm still at work so I'll see if I can rummage around and pull it up from somewhere.

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 07:24:22 AM »

Oh no...there it is: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/telegraph-view/9064104/Ring-cycle-of-the-west.html


"We join the Swindon Orchestra and Chorus tonight, live from the Steam Museum, for the première of Swindon: The Opera. The curtain rises on the five North Wilts Canalmaidens seated on the grassy islands of the Magic Roundabout.

Swinhilde (sings): Our father bade us ever guard on these islands the precious hoard of Canal-gold.

Enter Paolo Di Canio (sings): Nessun dorma! None shall sleep, till the Robins triumph over Barnet FC. Vincero!

Scene: the Cafe Licious in the Brunel Shopping Centre. Chorus (sing): Libiam! The skinny hazelnut latte will make the kisses hotter. Let the new day find us in this paradise.

Enter Minnie, the Girl of the Golden Great Western (sings): Addio! Goodbye my beloved junction. Goodbye. (Train whistles. Steam billows. Curtain. Wild applause.)"



Well, it keeps the profile up, eh? Take that Telford, Walsall and Dundee!

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 09:56:46 AM »

Well it even made the Today Programme on Radio 4 at 8.45am and of course it made reference to our 'reputation'

Clarkson will have a field day

I remain undecided as to whether this will actually do anything for us but is it a wise use of £60,000 of lottery money?

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 11:46:51 AM »

Richard - this was a sum of money which The Janice Thompson Perfomance Trust applied for and won against some pretty stiff opposition. What it will do is enable the Trust to produce a piece of high quality music and theatre with local young people participating.

It is not run by SBC and indeed it is the case that SBC has not exactly gone out of their way to assist the Trust in the production.

Of course it will be for the people of the town to judge whether the Opera (60 minutes long) is worth listening to.  If you managed to come to the Brunel Opera (celebrating 200 years of the great man) I think yuo might be pleasantly surprised.

In this case (and yes I am biased) I think the award of the arts money from the  People's Lottery Millions Fund will produce something for which the town can be proud.

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 12:04:14 PM »

I have no problem at all with the project, I hope the history contained in the opera doesn't miss the importance of the social innovation that flourished and was chocked off in Swindon rather than simply "the Works closed". I'm no expert in opera but I really hope it doesn't represent our cultural heritage in a shallow manner but challenges, inspires and informs.  Its nice to see some good news at the moment too!

But...I'm came to the end of my tether today with the whole "cultural dessert" thing. It is hard to stop national journalists from making jokes and comments but what has frustrated me is the language used by those giving official comment on the matter locally. The last thing you do in communications is say the thing that you least want people to think - avoiding saying lines like "Swindon has a reputation for not doing cultural activity or highbrow but......". In one sentence you have immediately made everyone think "oh yeah Swindon is a bit of a cultural dessert isn't it", rather than "Wow, what a fun idea, that's a bit different" or "well I didn't expect that Swindon".

Swindon is not a "cultural dessert" and does have much culture (arts, music, literature, heritage, drama, media) to be proud of. It may need more attention, promotion and support but the main issue is the lack physical spaces and community controlled, grass roots approach to allow it to truly thrive (as it once did).

Anyway rant over...its just really annoyed me.

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 01:11:13 PM »

Dan, get the mi up and running and then we can have an arts centre to be proud of....
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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 01:30:54 PM »

I was wondering what reputation Richard referred to?   It seemed to me there were two, the gerenal lets all have a go at Swindon and the other our highly respected reputation for the ARTs. 

Is those that think that 'cultural' is in a concert hall rather than all the other arts stuff?

Hope at some point to see this new Opera.

I agree with Daniel - how do we fight a stigma by starting every sentence with a referral to it.  as the general saying goes, everything after the BUT is b&*^%$^&t.
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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 05:41:09 PM »

I have no problem at all with the project, I hope the history contained in the opera doesn't miss the importance of the social innovation that flourished and was chocked off in Swindon rather than simply "the Works closed". I'm no expert in opera but I really hope it doesn't represent our cultural heritage in a shallow manner but challenges, inspires and informs.  Its nice to see some good news at the moment too!

But...I'm came to the end of my tether today with the whole "cultural dessert" thing. It is hard to stop national journalists from making jokes and comments but what has frustrated me is the language used by those giving official comment on the matter locally. The last thing you do in communications is say the thing that you least want people to think - avoiding saying lines like "Swindon has a reputation for not doing cultural activity or highbrow but......". In one sentence you have immediately made everyone think "oh yeah Swindon is a bit of a cultural dessert isn't it", rather than "Wow, what a fun idea, that's a bit different" or "well I didn't expect that Swindon".

Swindon is not a "cultural dessert" and does have much culture (arts, music, literature, heritage, drama, media) to be proud of. It may need more attention, promotion and support but the main issue is the lack physical spaces and community controlled, grass roots approach to allow it to truly thrive (as it once did).

Anyway rant over...its just really annoyed me.


Mmmmmmmmm... cultural dessert...


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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 07:02:43 PM »

Oh god, here we go - national journalists have a pop at Swindon and the locals pull up the draw-bridge.  ;D

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The last thing you do in communications is say the thing that you least want people to think - avoiding saying lines like "Swindon has a reputation for not doing cultural activity or highbrow but


In communications, you need to be

A) honest and
B) say something which is credible and
C) Deliver something memorable to match your words...

To claim that Swindon is anything BUT a cultural desert compared to most other towns not only of its size but with a similar (mostly demolished or derelict in our case) cultural inheritance is hopelessly Polly-Annish, and frankly, merely invites more deserved ridicule. Besides, without that word 'but' to supposedly challenge the long standing perception of our town, you'd not have a story at all - and as a consequence, no coverage!

Swindon has the reputation it has, not because people come here and see our lovely architecture and regulalry see a fabulous show, gig or exhibition... Its because people have eyes, ears and a nose and can clearly make a judgement for themselves too. The way to change it would be to get on and do it. A satyrical opera mocking the town is neither here nor there - its art imitating life!

Elephant in the room: most of our town is pig ugly because of a complete lack of imagination by successive councillors and planners, determined to demolish the Victoriana. We have more than our fair share of NEETs patrolling the streets, pushing double buggies full of pierce-eared progeny of differing shades, and openly smoking spliffs. We have a polished turd of a town centre, with 20% of the shops empty and most of the rest coming out second best to Ratners and Poundland. We have the post apocalyptic messes of the MI, Locarno, and Old College buildings at the heart of the town where they have been decaying for decades and concrete office buildings as far as the eye can see - BUT somehow we're supposed to think that a literature festival and some lovely (though soon to be overgrown and untended) parks compensates...? Come on people!!! Its a laughable as spunking £4m on allowing a supposedly publicly funded BBC to come help a load of commercial acts hawk their wares - and seriously thinking that it would turn around our reputation!

Of course its NOT all bad - there are some really fantastic things on offer - but frankly, diluted down by our size and the sheer volume of people living here, its a very weak cultural cordial.

Perception may be coloured by the tone of media coverage, but if it was really that inaccurate, they would have moved onto something, somewhere, or someone else by now.

Swindon will only change for the 'better' if the people living in it call a spade a spade. In the meantime, locals get what they vote for with their feet and wallets.

I complain about it, but frankly, if I want culture, for the most time I'll happily travel to go find it. I like to support the good things which are here and will carry on doing so - but it amuses me when people take umbridge over something which is perfectly flippin' obvious to the rest of the populace of the UK.

Sorry about the rant, but come on......!  ;D


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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 11:36:46 PM »

Tobes I agree with what you say, but there was list published today and some towns in the north have shops closed with a 33% total, so we are not so bad as them....

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 08:57:10 AM »

It would help if all Swindon residents worked in Swindon and/or all people worked here and slept somewhere else, it would help even more if 25% of our population settled down and stopped moving in and out. 

Then we would have a less transient population and when planning the town (at meetings) those meetings were populated with people who actually live here. 

There are never more than a 1/4 of people who either live here, or jobs depend on the outcome of said meeting at them and they end up planning our town and pontificating on it.

For instance, at the one held last week someone has fed back that on the wish list was that canal spur - again - I bet if the people who lived here, where asked individually that would be the last thing they would want and the thing least likely to bring in visitors - and what will it provide towards our culture?

Has anyone ever done a proper audit of what's going on cultural in Swindon?

Auditing everything is the lastest fad,  expect to be audited any time now.
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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 09:59:20 AM »

Has anyone ever done a proper audit of what's going on cultural in Swindon?


Muggins please do not try to persuade our Rod to spend (waste) even more of our money!!

He doesn't need any help!!

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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 10:47:27 AM »

As if I would Richard, I'm a roll my sleeves up and get on with the job sort of a gal as you well know.  We could do it here.. so spread out and winkle out every bit of low profile cultural stuff that's going on.

I'll start with Penhill,
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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 01:42:51 PM »

It would help if all Swindon residents worked in Swindon and/or all people worked here and slept somewhere else, it would help even more if 25% of our population settled down and stopped moving in and out. 

Then we would have a less transient population and when planning the town (at meetings) those meetings were populated with people who actually live here. 

There are never more than a 1/4 of people who either live here, or jobs depend on the outcome of said meeting at them and they end up planning our town and pontificating on it.


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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2012, 01:52:28 PM »

Geoff, it's not just the directors, in fact less so than just the people who turn up at the meetings. 
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Re: Swindon: The Opera
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2012, 10:35:33 PM »

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I really hope it doesn't represent our cultural heritage in a shallow manner but challenges, inspires and informs.  Its nice to see some good news at the moment too!


Daniel - it's primary purpose is to entertain. It involves a great deal of work including auditioning dozens of people for leading roles and many more to particate in the chorus. It is a serious work with a fair degree of humour as well. It charts the life of an imaginary Swindon family through the last 6 decades, so imagine how it will use the town's history to tell a story.

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A satirical opera mocking the town is neither here nor there - its art imitating life!


Tobes - believe me the Opera is not satirical and it most certainly does not knock the town - it's whole purpose is to celbrate the towns' achievements - I will ask whether Wi-Fi will get a mention!!!