Topic: Off Topic 19 12 2011

[kohima]

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JB, this thread has now been split from the original, so what is going on now, is apart from your thread on the school, so why are your 'diatribes' on here, surely you should be on the other thread with your comments there...........(If I were you, btw, I would try and drag this issue out for a few more months, then after the election there will be a change of leadership, and the school will be history.)

[bobwright]

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Nice to see good old fashioned common curtesy and the Christmas Spirit is alive and well

[Geoff Reid]

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Nice to see good old fashioned common curtesy and the Christmas Spirit is alive and well

Ah, but Kohima thinks it is okay for him to troll-around and disrupt a thread on behalf of his political mates, but is outraged when someone pays him a return visit to tell him that they don't like his behaviour 

[Got Signal]

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Nice to see good old fashioned common curtesy and the Christmas Spirit is alive and well

Ah, but Kohima thinks it is okay for him to troll-around and disrupt a thread on behalf of his political mates, but is outraged when someone pays him a return visit to tell him that they don't like his behaviour 

Bob
I thought you were used to Conservative behaviour as I think you must be aware that conservatives answer questions and divulge information in a style that is not that dissimilar from their political Kohimassar. 

[kohima]

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As read, I saw a comment and replied, if that is a 'troll' then so be it, a reply was then given, asking why I had put it on that thread, when it, the thread, had been moved from the original, so why the comment I dont now, so I then made the comment I did, sorry of it upset Bob etc, but again I say, these comments are from me and not anybody else, I am only a lowly retired HGV Driver, so I dont move in those upper circles like Geoff does, I dont have meetings with election candidates etc,  as Ronnie Corbett once said, 'I know my place', come May, when Geoff gets into the political life of the council, He wil be the man for planning chairman, then we will see all the things sorted out like  house building, projects getting started the next day etc. Life goes on, I thought this site was for comment, but I wont say for what side, or Tobes will tell me off............ 

[Got Signal]

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Ah, but Kohima thinks it is okay for him to troll-around and disrupt a thread on behalf of his political mates, but is outraged when someone pays him a return visit to tell him that they don't like his behaviour 

Geoff
I too like Kohima do some research and it appears that he does have contact with the upper floors of Tory towers he posted this on TS

I too like you do some research and those facts that I said I think are correct and have just spoken to Nick Martin who has confirmed them,

[Richard Symonds]

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come May, when Geoff gets into the political life of the council, He wil be the man for planning chairman, then we will see all the things sorted out like  house building, projects getting started the next day etc. Life goes on, I thought this site was for comment, but I wont say for what side, or Tobes will tell me off............ 

Glad you acknowledge that Geoff stands a good chance of being elected next May T and having similar work experience to your own I hope you would support his involvement in matters transport on whatever Labour offer us as an alternative to the Cabinet System.   

[kohima]

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Richard, I would go back to the pre Bliar days when councillors got paid only when they turned up for meetings, and that way, you got people who were there for the job not the picture in the paper life,
Yes and Ill support him if he can give us a 'better' way of life, but I doubt if it will change much,

[kohima]

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my reply to GS it seems has gone astray, so when the news broke of the education scandal, and the Labour lot tried to stop its publication, the report was 'found' by Nick Martin, and he did the work to get it published, some denied this, and so I rang Nick to confirm this and this he did.  I don't think that is 'upper class'.  Isn't that what councillors are for.
The other remark gone astray is when I asked Richard when he is going to post his reply to the money scandal, he was quick enough to ask me for my view...........
Happy Chrimble.....

[Geoff Reid]

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my reply to GS it seems has gone astray,

More likely that it is exactly where you posted it rather than it having 'gone astray'. Unless you deleted it of course. 

Other members posts are not deleted, edited or hidden by Admins.

Where a member creates a new discussion within an existing topic, the relevant posts will often be split into a entirely new topic.

Rarely, a member will attempt to deliberately disrupt the forward motion of a topic by injecting commemts unrelated to the subject under discussion but do not, for reasons known only to themselves, wish to start their own topic to discuss the points they wish to get across.  These posts are often split into 'Off Topic' threads where the poster will then allege that they're being unfairly treated.

Kohima isn't being unfairly treated and none of his posts have 'gone astray'.   In fact, it is Kohima who is often being unfair to his fellow TS members when he repeatedly disrupts their topics, won't start his own and cries foul when his own posts are used to start one for him.

The very small amount of housekeeping done by the TS admin team in relation to deliberately disruptive posters is done in the best interests of the wider forum membership. 

.......The other remark gone astray is when I asked Richard when he is going to post his reply to the money scandal, he was quick enough to ask me for my view...........
Happy Chrimble.....

Again, this remarks hasn't gone 'astray', it resides within another 'off topic' thread spawned out of other multiple off-topic posting by Kohima.

http://www.talkswindon.org/index.php?topic=8181.msg73344#msg73344

If Kohima persists with untrue claims that his posts are going 'astray', when in reality they are being moved because of his own dispruptive behaviour, then we'll probably lump all his off-topic posts into one single place and call it Kohima's Korner - or similar.

Then he'll know where to find 'em.

[Geoff Reid]

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I thought this site was for comment, but I wont say for what side, or Tobes will tell me off............ 

This site is a perfect venue for people from all political, religious and social backgrounds to discuss whatever they like, and most manage to do so quite happily even though they often disagree vehemently with opposing opinions offered.

Kohima, on the other hand, would rather disrupt a conversation he doesn't like the tone of, and when his actions are challenged he advances the same claim made by 20EYes and Cllr Faramrzi's spouse before him - 'It's a left-wing conspiracy'.  Five years ago the forum was described as 'Tory-Swindon' by many on the left-wing.

I don't recall any of the many other TS members who lean towards Liberal & Right wing politics behaving in a similar manner to Kohima, 20 EYes and Cllr faramarzi's other half, yet each of them purported to be 'fighting the good fight', all alone against the 'hordes of left-wingers' who inhabot Talkswindon.  I think most members and readers would recognise that the Forum is remarkably well balanced politically and, (this isn't just my opinion), is a very well run venue.

Talkswindon is just a venue and, utterly regardless of their own disparate, (and personal), politics, the small admin team simply will not pander to, or be manipulated by trolls or other members who use troll-tactics to blog-hog, disrupt and kill off discussions they don't 'approve' beforel employing manipulative innuendo to suggest they're being unfairly treated when they're pulled up for it.

[Richard Symonds]

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Richard, I would go back to the pre Bliar days when councillors got paid only when they turned up for meetings, and that way, you got people who were there for the job not the picture in the paper life,
Yes and Ill support him if he can give us a 'better' way of life, but I doubt if it will change much,

I agree entirely - how about you proposing that policy at full Council?

I suggest that a number of Councillors would immediately want to retire!

That is if some of their egos permitted. 

Ever thought of putting yourself up as an Independent?

As for Geoff, I assure you the reason why I support him, and would do so in whichever colour, is that I believe he could make the difference.

And furthermore he is not voting fodder like your friends in the Conservatives who seem to be devoid of any opinion of their own, unfortunately.

[Richard Symonds]

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The other remark gone astray is when I asked Richard when he is going to post his reply to the money scandal, he was quick enough to ask me for my view...........
Happy Chrimble.....

Sorry T you have me at a disadvantage!

Please give me the circumstances and I will give you my answer. 

If it refers to the wastage of money then I am in agreement with you, but please don't forget the £400,000 loan to Digital City for which your friends in the Conservatives say they will account, well I am still waiting and waiting and waiting.

Perhaps you think it is ok and in reality all the political parties are not fit for purpose so I look forward to your canditature to put things right next May.

Incidentally heard of Hichingbrook Hospital in Huntingdon, the one that was recently privatised, I hear it is utter chaos.  Now this does happen to be the result of Labour policy, actioned by the Tories but as they are in charge and have been for the last eighteen months they are the ones who are accountable.   NHS safe in our hands my arse!!

[Got Signal]

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Councillors attendance at meetings are published next time they are published we shall see what the rate of attendance is.

[kohima]

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as the risk of being told that I am distrupting a subject, but in fact only making a comment, like the time when on another website, I replied to Rochelle, who had slagged of the tories for the 'delay' in building the station upgrade, I replied to ask if she wanted the labour council with its 18 year record on the library rebuild, to do the job, the next thing I knew, the thread had been brought onto here on TS, and I was accused of 'stalking' her. my reply was to GS on this thread with reference to my 'links to the upper floor of the tories'. dont see that on here?.
getting back to the point Richard, yes the wfifi money is a point of issue I  know, I have told you by email and on here, what I think of the two leaders, I have also asked for Labour councillors to take action against them,
Hitchingbrooke hospital is getting it going, slow but Im sure they will, when the new wings were built, as you say under labour, they were never cost effective, and caused the hospital to almost go under in a financial way, the option taken was about the only way forward.  It may not be right in the eyes of the NHS doctrine, but at least it will survive now.
Given the figures for the 'repairs'  as costed by the owners of the build contracts, I wonder what it would have costed to stay as it was, one hospital had to pay £550, just to move 4 beds from one ward to another.
As for councillors, think it is a good idea to go back to the meetings only payment basis, Im sure it would weed out many of the present lot, on all sides of the political life. Cant see the point of an independant, he or she may do a good job, but in life they are out of the flow, in terms of getting anything done when it comes to voting
Finally, Richard you make the comment NHS safe in our hands. Arse. Can you tell the people of Dartford, Stafford, and the ones in the  oap report, that they would be safer under Labour.  Not ONE person was held to account for all those lives lost in those hopsitals, and your talking about a total of nearly 1000!!   Just put it down to bad 'housekeeping'.......... 

[Richard Symonds]

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T I am told Hinchingbrooke Hospital is utter chaos and there appears to be no prospect of any immediate improvement.  I hope privatisation works but on the basis of family experience this does not appear to have the prospect of working.  Maybe the original decision to close it was the correct one?

As for the effective management of other hospitals if they are not up to the job sack the person in charge.  Simples.  It is such a shame that failure seems to be rewarded by keeping a highly paid job rather than losing it which should always be the case.  In the good old days heads would role but now people just think of the implications to them rather than doing the right thing.

I am sorry to hear you are not considering your position as an Independent Councillor.  It is up to the individual concerned as to whether they make a contribution or otherwise and who is to say there will be a definitive result next May and an Independent could make the difference and then encourage others?  Come on you know it makes sense!

[Got Signal]

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Perhaps someone can enlighten us all as to why a Kent hospital under the Tory government is allowing cases like this to happen?  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-16333736

[kohima]

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GS, agreed, but these things do happen, even here in Swindon, My friend, who was an ex RM Manager, was admitted on a tuesday with blood flowing from his rear end, he was taken in and the blood flow stopped, on the sunday night I picked him up from the hospital and took him home, he told me that they had said he needed to come back within two week and have a camera scan up his backside and find out what the problem was.  He went to his wifes funeral on the next Friday, and then collapsed on the Saturday and died on the Sunday, the post mortem decided he died from a ruptured bowel.  I complained and was told it was nothing to do with me as I was not family..  That hospital in Kent must be one of many, the one in Dartford killed over 96 with the MSRA bug and nothing was done there either..

[Richard Symonds]

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I am really sorry to hear about your friend T and about the disgraceful treatment he received at our very own Great Western Hospital.

Please take this to your MP, with whom you should have some influence, and demand that this is investigated.  You need to do this to ensure there are no other avoidable deaths.

Heads need to role and in full view of the public, that is the only way to stop this.

As for MSRA the Great Western is a disgrace and I am surprised there are not more cases of it.

Visible dirt on the stairways and in the medical room corners and inadequate signage for use of the hand gells.  I have personally witnessed a so called cleaner use a shopping mall style mop to scoot dirt down the stairs and a friend in the acute assessment ward witnessed urine being emptied down the sink and medical staff not washing their hands after using the toilet.

and we wonder why there is infection?  This is basic stuff and the Chief Executive is responsible.

and for good measure I tried to discuss these issues with the Chairman of Health Scutiny at the time but sadly he was not interested.

I only hope I am out of town if I am taken ill because I have absolutely no confidence in the Great Western.