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Ms Snelgrove
« on: September 27, 2011, 08:59:58 PM »
Some time ago, I was told she was keen to take part in a debate, regarding her party and her re election as ppc for Swindon North.  I then looked at her blog, where she says what she says, some lies others fairy stories, but there was space to comment so I did on several of her blogs. waited at least three days not printed in reply, although those comments which were in praise of her were !!, some days later I noticed that now you had to sign in and register to make a comment, so I did and waited at least 3 days to get the ok to have a password etc and make comments.  I then made comments again on the same lines as before, waited again at least 2 days, not printed, and today I noticed that comment boxes etc have been removed so you cant make comment now just read her comments!!. Today she says that Osbourne is to blamE for the rise in debt, when her party come to power the national debt stood at around 350 billion, when her party left office it stood at just over 550 billion and rising, it is still even more today I expect, she also says that Balls is a worry to Osbourne, not when Balls was one of the advisors to brown for the 10p tax fiasco etc etc..
oh for a candidate who is not one sided.  :2funny:



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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2011, 12:16:00 AM »
Are you referring to Mrs Snelgrove the PPC for Swindon South

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2011, 07:56:04 AM »
Kohima

If you are not contented with how people run their blogs, please feel free to start your own blog. Its very easy as is best demonstrated by the number of tory political ranters ramblers that have them.  :wink:
All posts on this forum are my own opinion and do not represent the views of any council or any political party.  :banana:

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2011, 06:11:44 PM »
Yes Bob, and steve, I dont want my own blog, I was as stated told she was up for  debate and then she posted her blog site and so to my thinking, invited replies to her fantasy world, but no, after all the preeamble that I went through, she just shut down the comments, so much for the swindon north voters if she is the best on offer.
as for the tory ramblers steve, is this the labour site then !!. :2funny:

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 11:47:12 PM »
Kohima - I think you raise some interesting points and if your points are on Swindon South issues and not simply wasting her time it is right for you to raise them.

An interesting issue that has emerged on local accountability is it has been deemed you can ask the question but that the member does not have to answer or that you have to accept the answer given.

I think contributions have changed on Talkswindon and it is true that Labour members have got involved. I am not sure if this reflects on the quality of Talkswindon or a changing of views? I know Conservative and Liberal supporters still continue to contribute however there is a commonality of respect for individual views. I do learn things from your contributions.

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2011, 06:20:04 PM »
Bob, when I go to a web site and I see that I can make return comments on what the blog holder has said, I see no harm or any other point in that, and I at the time did welcome the point that i could make comment and see what she thought about that, but I am afraid, it was all just a cover up and done to make her look good.
she, I dont think had any intention of putting my comments on the site, she did, as I have said, put comments that were full of praise for her.
Rather sad, but as I have also said, if that is what the Swindon North party members want then they are welcome to it, I hope she gets the just reply from voters.

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 06:19:11 AM »
Kohima,

Ms Snelgrove does not want to debate or have an open conversation with anyone but overt supporters. She demonstrated this during our attempts to engage with her over the ID debate. Remember, she dismissed TS at the time as a 'hotbed of right wing activists' (ie. people who had the temerity to question!) and refused to engage further. She went on to write pro-forma replies to reasonable written questions asked of her by concerned constituents, many of who were, at that time, politically unaligned. When pressed to clarify and expand her answers, she dismissed further enquiry. She even turned up at a public debate on the issue and refused to participate.

She demonstrably paid little attention to the interests, desires or concerns of her electorate, behaving as people said at the time, more alike Parliament's representative in Swindon than Swindon's representative in Parliament.

Her most meaningful dabblings in local politics were meddlings with things like mini-motos, where she bizarrely started calling for spurious new legislation to tackle this 'modern menace'  (as if any extra were needed when they were already un-taxed, uninsured, un MOT'd and were being ridden on pavements by frequently drunken or stoned 15 year olds without crash helmets or driving licenses!)

Apart from that, I remember her for her stammering and laboured speech to a nigh empty house of commons on WiFi - unfortunately an engagement which appeared to have very much more to do with the forthcoming election and her rather late realisation that she'd actually pissed a lot of people off for largely ignoring the town whilst getting on with her party 'career', than it did addressing the failings of the politBluhro (at least  her party loyalty earned her an 'Order of The Brown-Nose from Private Eye though!).

Anne has many skills - and I know latterly did start meeting with the community, but overall, being a good local MP isn't one of them - her interests appear to lie elsewhere. Just look at her voting record.

It would be a travesty if she is put up again when the party has been capable of producing previous candidates with a real passion for the town and its people. I'd cite Julia Drown was a good example of that - a conviction politician. Tbh, even I would seriously consider voting for Julia if ever she re-stood, even though I have not voted Labour previously. Anne on the other hand is definitely a career politician - as reflected in her selective answering of my, your and innumerable other 'inconvenient' questions asked by constituents.

I don't expect a local politician to agree with me - but I expect to be treated with a modicum of respect. When the issue is important I would also expect them to be prepared to defend their party policy and to show that it was arrived at with some intellectual and moral integrity and rigour. I hope many involved in the ID debate remember how we were dismissed, ignored or patronised before they risk voting for her.

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If you are not contented with how people run their blogs, please feel free to start your own blog.

Steve - I pretty much disagree with every view Kohima posts - BUT he is (as far as I am aware) an ordinary member of the local community and electorate. Anne on the other hand is a politician and has claimed the honour of representing Kohima and his town in Parliament - and will be trying to convince him along with the rest of us to vote for her at the next election. He is worthy of her attention and at least modicum of respect. One might have imagined that she would have welcomed the opportunity to answer his questions with a clear rebuttle of his (presumed) criticism... A blog invites engagement - especially when you provide the tools to do it. Its part of her job - NOT Kohimas, so I'm more than a little surprised at your response.  :wink:
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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2011, 12:01:16 PM »
Tobes,
Thank you for your reply, I cant say I agree with all of youk blogs on here but that is life, I once thought you were a middle of the road chap, but when you are repeatedly calling for an election to get rid of the council, I wonder on what path you tread, but what you have said this time is right, if she wants to put out what I would call lies, what you might call untruths, then to refuse to debate those same issues is a disgrace, as for the comment by Steve, which also surprised me, I gues you have to look after your own, good or bad, by the way how is the faringdon road post office these days...

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2011, 01:33:28 PM »
Well I guess we were bound to agree on something eventually!  :wink:

But that said Kohima, personally speaking, I sometimes think you can be as bad as some of the more dyed in the wool labourites on here too!!! Does that make me MOTR? It just seem to me that people are using their political allegiances like the membership some sort of weird competing club system, where the entire ills of the present are blamed on other 'crap' club. I don't think that's helpful or accurate.

I think the members politBluhro needs to go because they've been demonstrably incompetent and dishonest. The colour of their party rosette means far less to me than the quality of the stuff between their ears or what comes from their lips. They've demonstrated to me that some of the key personalities are not worthy of the trust we place in them and as a result, they ought to be replaced with worthier candidates.

I used to think most normal people criticised where and when they thought criticism was due, but I personally feel that TS is far less objective than it used to be. I hope the pendulum of ordinary opinion/participation swings back. Issues should be looked at according to the facts - not predetermined by blind party allegiance. Anne herself should have taught us all that lesson!

The evidence of her fallibility is very clear to see - so the thought of Labour standing such a lame duck apologist for the worst excesses of the Brown regime next election seems incredible to me. That she selectively replies to questions on the other hand, doesn't surprise me in the slightest. She has well established 'form' on that front.
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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2011, 05:27:30 PM »
If we are not careful the apolitical will form a political party.

Give me commonsense and decency over ideology any time, and if that makes me a naive idealist so bloody what?

Too many of these bastards continue to pull down allowances and pay despite behaviour, 'customer' unrest and piss poor performance that would have seen most of us out on our arse.

What we have is not democracy and our representatives do not represent us.

Apart from that I am generally satisfied.
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« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2011, 05:36:10 PM »
How do we join Mart's Apolitical Party?
 Here we go, "Mart's not the Messiah, he's just a very naughty boy!"
What's it all about?

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2011, 06:07:08 PM »
With mythological imperative helpless Annie grows another head and like Heracles to Hydra I'll have it like the last over and again.

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2011, 07:57:39 PM »
David, you get what you deserve mate, I have just checked her blog site once again, and noticed that now on her 'home page', she has inserted a contact icon, where you can now send comments to her for reply either by email or on the website, this I have done, so will wait a few more days and see what comes up, not much I fear,

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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 07:22:16 PM »
3rd  Oct and no reply, what a waste, surely someone somehwere has an opening for such a reject...... :2funny:.

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2011, 09:59:03 PM »
How do we join Mart's Apolitical Party?

You can't really. The day it gets a member it will have failed in one of it's key objectives, the next step after membership is an ideology, then it's a manifesto, then it's a whip, then it's subsuming common sense and basic decency in favour of the party line.

Thereafter it's a downward spiral of flogging off social housing to the private sector, (within the rules) and in the tenants' best interests, bolting friggin great tellies to buildings at significant expense, erecting scraps of pig iron in the street (ooh look it's shiny) block paving every horizontal surface, (regularly), driving out more traders than global turmoil could ever hope to, fiddling with tabernacles, very nearly introducing ID cards at huge expense, declaring war on every bugger with skin duskier than milky coffee then perversely inviting them to come and live in Dear Old Blighty, well what's left of it after you've subdivided it, outsourcing the defence of the realm, then realising that's quite expensive and abandoning it all together, spunking £12b on a sack of shite NHS computer system that just might have confirmed every fecker is waiting feckin ages for anything,allowing a Prime Minister and Chancellor to share power when their relationship is so dysfunctional that they wouldn't piss in each other's ears if their brains were alight, but that's OK they're only running a country, inviting public opinion then doing everything in your power to subvert it, cutting everything in sight because we'reallinthistogether and by the way you can pay for my telly cos it's in the rules, refusing to call benefit cheats 'cheats' in case you offend them, calling on the police to 'bang up' anyone who mutters a word of dissent in the company of more than two others then slaughtering the police when they have the nerve to knock about a few rioters, except they don't because you have legislated their bollocks into a dim and distant memory and generally been complete knobs for as long as anyone can remember. I wish every politician had to wear a behaviour collar, every Council Chamber in the land and Westminster itself would ring to the sound pf buzzing and screaming and smell of gently chargrilled pork and sod the cost of the electric. Happy days.

We could be a loose affiliation sharing a common interest when those interests happily coincide,  when those interests are genuinely held and not a matter of political expedience that is, or simply because I may be able to arrange for you to be Minister of Bottom Kissing, or because you have chosen to cop a deaf'un and agree with whatever self important pillock has been 'elected' as the leader of the party, that pillock in that instance being me, whom you blindly follow regardless of the electorate's preference. Which would be unwise more often than not for I am a base and untrustworthy creature.

So after this consultation, thanks for taking part by the way, we won't be accepting any members.

Sometimes I think you have to march right in and demand your rights, even if you don’t know what your rights are, or who the person is you’re talking to. Then, on the way out, slam the door.

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2011, 09:30:00 AM »
"and agree with whatever self important pillock has been 'elected' as the leader of the party, that pillock in that instance being me, whom you blindly follow regardless of the electorate's preference. Which would be unwise more often than not for I am a base and untrustworthy creature."


You missed chance there Mart, You could have gotten them down on your allotment!
No need to have felt you were doing anything underhand, it would have benefited you and the other allotment holders. And you could have got them to pay their own expenses and yours including your rent, simply because you were in charge.
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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2011, 04:49:38 PM »
Dont forget the shopping Muggins...

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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2011, 05:04:06 PM »
If I rules the world, every day would be someone elses shopping day  :hippy:
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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2011, 05:26:20 PM »
You've just reminded me... Onions and coconut milk!
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Re: Ms Snelgrove
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2011, 02:58:38 PM »
I see Adver regular T Reynolds is also having a pop at Anne Snelgrove for not publishing comments on his/her behalf: (clickable image)



Only one comment to make at this point - Isn't Wheeler Avenue in the North Swindon Constituency?  :popcorn: