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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #40 on: September 06, 2011, 02:30:54 PM »
And Mr Hunt had been having sleepless nights about his financial difficulties....then £400K landed in his lap.....

And there's the rub - SBC stumped-up £400K TOTALLY UNSECURED with an alacrity the afford of those who have access to fabulous amounts of other people's money over which, if they squander it because of the lackadaisical likelihoods of being able to tear off monetary chunks like so much Play-Doh, there is absolutely no meaningful, personal accountability and the accounts department is able to simply tinker with Council Tax bills for redress. Pheww, long sentence - clearly off on one there.

I posted the following October last, just a puff in the gale of erudite protest by a persistent few, that has kept this matter on the boil -

Something is burning (apart from the 'truth' that is) - there's a whiff of more than intrigue, a higher note even than the searing incandescence of outrage at the reckless way SBC has funded this 'Wi-Fi' scheme, those hyena-banks cackling in their oak offices at a folly to better their own. It’s coming, just you wait, that 'bonfire of the council vanities', a true conflagration as this deal goes up in flames.

I've got a fiver says that the company will go broke and the completely unsecured half-a-mil., like the gay magician, will disappear with a 'puff'!

Then will be the time to sack the council offices - count me in!

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #41 on: September 06, 2011, 03:13:03 PM »
SBC stumped-up £400K TOTALLY UNSECURED with an alacrity the afford of those who have access to fabulous amounts of other people's money over which, if they squander it because of the lackadaisical likelihoods of being able to tear off monetary chunks like so much Play-Doh, there is absolutely no meaningful, personal accountability and the accounts department is able to simply tinker with Council Tax bills for redress. Pheww, long sentence - clearly off on one there.


Thanks Dave :)  thanks for reminding readers that the £400,000 was, in fact, completely unsecured, despite claims to the contrary.

Swindon Borough Council failed to register any charge against the assets of Digital City in respect of the loan it gave the company.

I'm glad the Swindon Labour group stepped in and delayed the strike-off of Digital City (UK) Ltd from Companies house because the remaining assets of the company, (all that remains of our £400,000 loan to the company), would have become the property of the Crown.

I note that no Conservative Cabinet members or Back bench Councillors lifted a public finger to prevent the strike-off and when a proposal was made for the internal audit committee to look at this again, Cllr Dickinson is alleged to have told members that he was....

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"Sick of hearing about wifi"

...and then hge refused to do anything, which is a very different attitude now that he's being paid to chair that committee than the gung-ho and halcion days of Michael defying Der Leaders will when he chaired the committee pro-bono.

I anticipate him having a change of heart.

And a change of underpants unless, as the popular saying goes, 'He get's his shit together'. :)

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #42 on: September 06, 2011, 07:32:29 PM »
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Dear Gavin

I am even more confused that ever with regard to the truth behind the origins of the Wi-Fi saga.

In today’s Swindon Advertiser, Mr Rikki Hunt is quoted as saying with regard to the initial approach to set up a Wi-Fi system 

“What people do not appreciate is that I was talking for a long time about the concept, and the executive of the council approached me

This appears to be in direct conflict with a statement made by the Leader of The Council on Swindon 105.5 Radio made on the 28 April 2011 and at other times, in which he states that Mr Hunt approached SBC with a proposal rather than Mr Hunts’ claim that the SBC executive approached him.

I believe in the interests of open and transparent government the Council should make a statement either acknowledging that Coun Bluh’s recollection is wrong or to repudiate the statement from Mr Hunt.

The public of Swindon will not accept that both positions can be right no matter how great legal minds might like to suggest the phrases used by both men could ‘open to interpretation.

I look forward to a response at your earliest


I am delighted that the Chief executive has responded very promptly - for which many thanks. His reply is as  follows:-

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Dear Des,

I am clear that Rikki Hunt approached the Council. I trust this clarifies. 

All the best

Gavin.

Can' t be much clearer than that - so on that basis Rikki Hunt must have got it wrong

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #43 on: September 06, 2011, 07:59:48 PM »
Quite depressing an article really as it has shown that Rikki has been using weasel words for a very long time.  Maybe that partially explains why he has managed to land himself in the situation he is now.

Also I'm surprised he got free meals with both parents working, was this normal?  Or is it just more weaseling?

Interesting point.

Did Rikki acquire an interest in creative accounting at school as well then?
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2011, 08:12:30 PM »
Gavin is clear Rikki is wrong and as said previously sloppy with detail.

school dinner money wrong X

Who approached who wrong X

On the basis of those two strikes then his assertion that Labour killed wifi is Likely to be wrong X

John Richard Hunt Aka Rikki Hunt it's 3 strikes and your out!

You can fool all of the people  some of the time, and fool some of people
all the time, but you can't ........ Rikki Hunt's statement to the adver  has been found wanting by the Chief Executive Of Swindon Borough Council's confirmation. Will John Richard Hunt AKA Rikki Hunt now put the record straight and apologise?  Oh and also apologise about the more important detail Of school lunch money.

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #45 on: September 06, 2011, 08:41:25 PM »
I am delighted that the Chief executive has responded very promptly - for which many thanks. His reply is as  follows:-

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Dear Des,

I am clear that Rikki Hunt approached the Council. I trust this clarifies. 

All the best

Gavin.

Can' t be much clearer than that - so on that basis Rikki Hunt must have got it wrong
At the risk of seeming to be a pedant... I'm not sure it does clarify things totally. Mr Hunt says "the executive of the council approached me". Mr Jones says "Rikki Hunt approached the Council". If one was trying to be deceitful, one could interpret those two as being completely different things, one being a group of individuals, the other being a corporate body. It's from such nuances of language that spin-doctors made their living. :)

Could it be that the 'executive of the council', not formally acting in their corporate role, approached Mr Hunt informally, before Mr Hunt then made a formal approach to the council?
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #46 on: September 06, 2011, 08:54:27 PM »
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At the risk of seeming to be a pedant... I'm not sure it does clarify things totally. Mr Hunt says "the executive of the council approached me". Mr Jones says "Rikki Hunt approached the Council". If one was trying to be deceitful, one could interpret those two as being completely different things, one being a group of individuals, the other being a corporate body. It's from such nuances of language that spin-doctors made their living.

As an ex-PR, I have to say, thats a cracking and plausible spot Komadori  :coolsmiley:
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #47 on: September 06, 2011, 09:15:38 PM »
You've only got one shoe?

Yup, lives in it apparently.

Exit stage left.

Very, very quickly.
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #48 on: September 06, 2011, 10:51:53 PM »

I've never published this opinion before  but, almost 2 years ago, I and several other people discussed the very same possibility that Komadori just outlined. :)

I'm sure most readers are aware of this, but just to reiterate it, the chief executive (Gavin Jones), is a different entity from 'the' executive of the council which is essentially the cabinet, or in the specific case of the origins of the WiFi'asco, Roderick Bluh and Mark Edwards.

We'll probably never learn the exact truth of who went to who first but I also doubt we'll see any documentary evidence to support the official version.

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #49 on: September 06, 2011, 11:13:46 PM »
What a way and waste of a life becoming the master of double talk and deceit. Still it all ends the same even if we take different journeys. There have been many wrongs but chiefly treating the people of Swindon with contempt.

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2011, 11:46:55 PM »
What a way and waste of a life becoming the master of double talk and deceit. Still it all ends the same even if we take different journeys. There have been many wrongs but chiefly treating the people of Swindon with contempt.

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2011, 07:27:14 AM »
What a way and waste of a life becoming the master of double talk and deceit. Still it all ends the same even if we take different journeys. There have been many wrongs but chiefly treating the people of Swindon with contempt.

thats a bit harsh bob.......especially as labour had some very astute versions of your comment, however forgiveness can be achieved from an apology (in regards to the wifi scenario) an apology from the conservatives, labour and the lib dems should suffice
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2011, 08:09:40 AM »
Komadori makes a good point - I did consider the same issue but felt that if Gavin Jones said 'Rikki Hunt contacted the Council and given my question referred to the 'executive' of the Council, hs answer would be all embracing and honest.  But, in deference to the query i have sent this to the CE

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Dear Gavin

Just to be absolutely clear and to avoid any misunderstanding whatsoever in terms of the use of words, when you say ‘Rikki Hunt approached the Council’ do you mean

He approached employed officers or an officer of the Council
He approached elected members or a member of the Council
He approached members or a member of the Cabinet
He approached the Council by way of simply communicating with SBC
 
I ask these questions not to be ‘pedantic’ but simply to avoid confusion over semantics.

 


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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2011, 10:08:37 AM »
Getting back to the article, I do find it rather nauseating that the article seems to focus on 'poor old Rikki'  A man who has the ability to avoid answering any of the important questions and earned sufficient money to run up a £400k plus tax bill.

I must say, having lost my business way back in 1997, I have some sympathy, but unlike Mr Hunt I hope I have taken responsibility for my failure.  In my case I did it with my money and my largest debt, from memory, was about £3,000.

The thing that gets up my crawl is the simple fact that the Adver repeatedly fails to bring this man and his 'friends' in the Council to account.  Just a simple question as to what happened to the money and when is your wife going to file fully detailed and audited accounts to Companies House will suffice.

No sorry I forgot it is not your responsibility any longer is it?

I hope we have now finished with the sob stories and get information reported as to what has happened to £400,000 of Council Tax Payers Money.  Over to you Adver!!
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2011, 10:18:49 AM »
Komadori makes a good point - I did consider the same issue but felt that if Gavin Jones said 'Rikki Hunt contacted the Council and given my question referred to the 'executive' of the Council, hs answer would be all embracing and honest.  But, in deference to the query i have sent this to the CE

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Dear Gavin

Just to be absolutely clear and to avoid any misunderstanding whatsoever in terms of the use of words, when you say ‘Rikki Hunt approached the Council’ do you mean

He approached employed officers or an officer of the Council
He approached elected members or a member of the Council
He approached members or a member of the Cabinet
He approached the Council by way of simply communicating with SBC
 
I ask these questions not to be ‘pedantic’ but simply to avoid confusion over semantics.

Des

Not sure about you being pedantic. What I want to see is the council leader putting the  record straight by writing to the adver to put the fact that Rikki Hunt approached the council I have always believed that Cllrs should put the record straight. That is my interpretation anyway. This is a serious point and the adver and its readers should have the record put straight, by the executive.
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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #55 on: September 08, 2011, 12:58:22 PM »
After the utter shambles Rikki "Rhyming Slang" Hunt made of his time at Swindon Town (not to mention the utter contempt he showed the fans - "f**k off and support Oxford, then" one of his choicer quotes, it was a cause of considerable astonishment to me and I think pretty much all Town fans that he was ever allowed to do anything in this town again, much less trusted with any amount of public money!

I know the football club's often a source of considerable embarassment to the political elite in the Town but even the smallest amount of paying attention to it's history could have avoided this whole sorry saga - any Town fan could have told you not to touch Rikki with a barge pole. He has a track record of serial failure at the expense of others, interleaved with a considerable amount of blowing his own trumpet, going back 20 years in this town. Epic fail by RB et al to even entertain the idea of a meeting with the man, much less invest in any scheme he has to offer.

I've not followed the ins and outs of this as closely as some on here (but then who has?) and I'm no great fan of Labour, locally or nationally, but if Rikki's pointing the finger at anyone, it's usually to save his own skin.

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« Reply #56 on: September 08, 2011, 01:18:44 PM »
True Townfan, so true.

My memory is that at STFC they spelt his surname with a capital C

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #57 on: September 08, 2011, 02:11:53 PM »
On the record of STFC over recent years, with a view to their management of the team, the financial position, the overall running of the club, I dont think they are in a position to slag off anybody about anything, I wonder how long they owed the town thousands of pounds in back council tax etc..  :2funny:

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #58 on: September 08, 2011, 02:41:05 PM »
On the record of STFC over recent years, with a view to their management of the team, the financial position, the overall running of the club, I dont think they are in a position to slag off anybody about anything, I wonder how long they owed the town thousands of pounds in back council tax etc..  :2funny:
And who do you think "they" are? It was under the (mis)management of Rikki that the debt started piling up - a position exacerbated by his successors, (most recently the Diamandis-Wills regime who really took the p**s) but it started back with friend Rikki. That was kind of the point.

You do realise the people who run the club are different from the people who support it? And that we don't actually run up the debt personally?

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Re: Labour accused of putting a stick in Rikki's WiFi hole and wiggling it.
« Reply #59 on: September 08, 2011, 05:26:51 PM »
You've only got one shoe?

Yup, lives in it apparently.

Exit stage left.

Very, very quickly.

No.
I'm sure it's a glass slipper and the other one will soon be tried on for size, accompanied by a prince.

Has that rescued the situation?
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