Author Topic: Honda's Turbine Dreams to Become Reality Tonight? (Read 3945 times)

Ringer · « **Reply #80 on:** July 17, 2011, 06:00:56 PM »

~~Shaw Tip~~ The New Community Forest at Shaw or Moulden Hill country park both these would be suitable for Wind Turbines will these be the considered for the next sites? All that open land at Lydiard must be a consideration for some? There is another site that Park at the back of Freshbrook where you look over across the great western way?

Mellon · « **Reply #81 on:** July 18, 2011, 06:38:21 AM »

I'd say if we were truly committed to sustainable energy consumption then we should be building turbines left right and center regardless of cost or visual impact.

If we build turbines, make em big, make em proud and stand tall so we can all have a smug 'ol time.

Drone · « **Reply #82 on:** July 18, 2011, 07:30:44 AM »

I'd say a road is far noisier, visually intrusive and harmful to wildlife than a turbine. Perhaps if we were all within a reasonable distance of a turbine or power plant, we might be a bit more aware of the energy we use.

Muggins · « **Reply #83 on:** July 18, 2011, 08:49:39 AM »

I get what Mellon means - Cornwall, now if there was place you would think would be fighting turbines with a will, has taken it's share, then I can't see why we should not take ours.

Like Mellon says, they are big, they are standing proud (and not really spoiling anything) - just telling the rest of Britian that the Cornish are braver than the rest of us.

Alex · « **Reply #84 on:** July 18, 2011, 08:57:12 AM »

I can see both sides-as someone with a background in being green I really want to see more wind turbines- but maybe more of the smaller ones? Love em, but then I'm Cornish.

I can only imagine that it would be very disturbing to have them close to the houses if they really are 3 times larger than the ones at Watchfield- which is what I've heard the complaints are.
I can't imagine how it might be to have a continual strobe effect as the blades rotate with the sun behind them. But not nice. And the low level him would be very intrusive.

The ones at Watchfield are smaller and further away from any residential area. That makes sense.

So why not more and further away? I can only imagine its the cost- someone is trying to get maximum bang for buck without due consideration to effects on people. Same old same old...?

Bogomil · « **Reply #85 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:52:07 AM »

Actually the whole point is being missed here.

Honda want the turbines on their site for their own energy consumption and to reduce their carbon footprint. Any excess energy will be plough back into the national grid, which at the moment will be more due to the fact that they are not operating at full capacity. It’s not easy to put these further away without having to lay a considerable amount of cabling.

Lets also not forget that this is an industrial estate.

Here we have a company that is prepared to invest a considerable amount of money in renewable energy for the future. They have even reduced the number of turbines because of a fear that one of the planned ones at the end of the test track (D) MAY, due to the prevailing wind direction, cause a noise problem for residents in Stratton Village.

swindoncentric · « **Reply #86 on:** July 18, 2011, 12:49:24 PM »

The shadow flicker that seems to be the other concern alongside the size has been addressed by ecotricity, they'll SWITCH OFF the turbines if this happens, along with input from local residents combined with data collected by hardware attached to the turbines.

Interesting how none of the objectees have mentioned this small, but vitally important fact.

Mellon · « **Reply #87 on:** July 18, 2011, 02:41:49 PM »

Bogomil - F**K Honda, we've got to look at the bigger picture here rather than a Non committal project that's only being done so they can open up a new market with "going greener with every step". They won't work properly and just a profit puller.

Alex - No not small turbines, big feckin turbines, the kind of ones that when you stand 200 meters away you can feel your face getting pulled by the down draft.

Muggins · « **Reply #88 on:** July 18, 2011, 04:56:16 PM »

It's ok Bogo, this is a five page thread, we more or less covered the Honda thing and then went on to more general matters as is our wont.

I think generally we applaud Honda for making the effort, and if anything the general consensus seems to be 'on Hondas side'. But the folks over there have to live with it, and as they should they are getting the best out fo the deal, becasue once they go in and money has been spent, Honda ain't going to be taking them out in a hurry.

Come on now Mellon, you know that sort can't be put into the Honda site, it would take the roof off. Wouldn't need petrol to deliver the cars, just take them up a ramp, point in direction into the air stream and let go!

Drone · « **Reply #89 on:** July 18, 2011, 04:57:10 PM »

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...cause a noise problem for residents in Stratton Village

the M4 motorway, if the wind is in the direction, can be heard from Wootton Bassett and West Swindon. I think Honda are doing a good thing. If there was a risk free, noise free, smoke free, injvisible, no environmental impact way of making energy, life would be a lot easier. As there isn't, wind turbines should be encouraged.

Drone · « **Reply #90 on:** July 18, 2011, 04:58:13 PM »

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cause a noise problem for residents in Stratton Village

aslo, what ever happened to the 'Stratton Stink'?

Mellon · « **Reply #91 on:** July 18, 2011, 05:24:41 PM »

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Come on now Mellon, you know that sort can't be put into the Honda site, it would take the roof off. Wouldn't need petrol to deliver the cars, just take them up a ramp, point in direction into the air stream and let go!

Yes it damn well can muggins......its an old airfield. Build it big then we can all dress up as clarkson, stand underneath it and shout "POOOOOOOOOWWEEEEER"

Muggins · « **Reply #92 on:** July 18, 2011, 06:38:21 PM »

Yeh! WIND PO0000WEEEEER - something of which, Clarkson would totally disapprove...

Come to think of it, if they were as big as you would like them, we would have to reinforce our roof stays in a ten mile radius.

Mellon · « **Reply #93 on:** July 18, 2011, 07:57:44 PM »

Reinforce the roofs? Oh no in my world we wouldn't be living on the surface...undergound cities using ground thermals for heat, wind and solar power from the surface for electricity, electric vehicles...Segways are banned.

But what I have planned isn't exactly a propeller its more of an impeller system set up in series to create a compression the rapidly expanded towards a dynamo creating huge energy output!

Oh yes it can be done...same principal of a jet engine but without the combustion.

Des Morgan · « **Reply #94 on:** July 18, 2011, 10:21:39 PM »

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We'er talking 300 people out of a town of 200K. noisy NIMBY's

And yet when a small group of people complain about the siting of a telephone mast they are heroic for standing up to officialdom and corporate greed - strange logic we seem to employ.

I actually commend Honda for what they want to do BUT they do have social as well as environmental responsibilities, or does being green mean you can be mean?

Muggins · « **Reply #95 on:** July 19, 2011, 08:56:45 AM »

It is all important to those that live next to the things,be it pylons, turbines, phone masts, etc. but you would think with all the forward planning that went on in Swindon for so many years, that this could have been planned in.

Ok, some of the technology has not been around that long, but 'unpleasant things to have to live near' always have. And the technology will improve.

Bogomil · « **Reply #96 on:** July 19, 2011, 11:53:38 AM »

Quote from: Mellon on July 18, 2011, 07:57:44 PM

Reinforce the roofs? Oh no in my world we wouldn't be living on the surface...undergound cities using ground thermals for heat, wind and solar power from the surface for electricity, electric vehicles...Segways are banned.

But what I have planned isn't exactly a propeller its more of an impeller system set up in series to create a compression the rapidly expanded towards a dynamo creating huge energy output!

Oh yes it can be done...same principal of a jet engine but without the combustion.

I think someone might have spent too much time on Sim City when they were a bit younger

Drone · « **Reply #97 on:** July 19, 2011, 12:21:33 PM »

I'm bored with this town. Lizard attack!

If only real life was like Sim City.

Mellon · « **Reply #98 on:** July 19, 2011, 05:33:42 PM »

Sim city? How dare you insult me with those words. I was playing the Age Of Empires series

Sim City is for people who don't know how to plan properly, its even sadder when people claim that the time they spent playing it was 'planning experience' .

However i do wonder if anyone in the cabinet has used Sim City for a planning exercise?

Muggins · « **Reply #99 on:** July 19, 2011, 05:51:45 PM »

Perhaps not now Mellon, but I'm pretty sure that in the past some were drawing on their gaming experience when setting policy!!

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