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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2011, 10:18:59 AM »

the gorgon is, sadly, correct.

Most promoters who want to put on the small-to-mid size US and internation acts know that they can usually get away with one South date (which is always London) and if they need to do a South West date they can easily and quickly rely on either the Bristol or Oxford Academy venues to put the bands on.

In my experience, although I really like the venue, Oxford can be a bit of a let-down for live music. The Academy is over the otherside of town from the Uni and, other than the student population, there doesn't seem to be much interest in live music in the town - even though they're fortunate enough to have several big shows a week going on there (I have a feeling that's why they tend to be empty a lot of the time, there's too many events chasing too few people/pounds).

Trouble is, booking agents are a unique breed and work in mysterious ways. They almost always get paid a percentage of the band's fee for each show, which the promoter agrees before any tickets are sold, and so doesn't really care if the band plays to a tiny audience as only the promoter and the audience suffer because of it (although bands obviously do sell less merchandise than they otherwise might). You'd think that bands would eventually get sick of playing the same venues to the same small crowds, but I think a lot of international bands don't realise what's happening and just think that's the level of their popularity.

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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2011, 05:00:31 PM »

Like the new avatar 20, it's a bit naughty, but I like it!

I've had chance to ask the family about the concert and they thoroughly enjoyed it, but they reckon it was more like 150 that went not double that.  Also confirmed that they would not have chanced the £80 entrance on an evening in May being fine.  They got a deal on their tickets via their work place.  It did give them the chance to try out a concert with the kids who loved it and had plenty of room to join in dancing etc. I can see that wouldn't pay the rent, but they will know a bit better what to expect next time they go.
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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2011, 07:51:19 PM »


Swindon Invincible has been booted out of the bowl....

http://www.swindoninvincible.co.uk/
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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2011, 07:01:12 AM »


Swindon Invincible has been booted out of the bowl....

http://www.swindoninvincible.co.uk/


'Booted out' in order to sell c.3500 additional tickets at £37.50 a pop  :wink:

The Mela's continued popularity will mean it'll have to move to a larger venue in the next year or two. I wonder if that'll be considered to have been 'booted out'?

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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2011, 02:58:03 PM »


S'just a turn of phrase - don't read too much into it in your haste to have a pop.

The Mela will outgrow the town gardens, (if it hasn't already).  At the last Mela AGM I attended I raised this very point and asked whether Lydiard would be considered, (by them), a suitable alternative.  The answer at that point was no, and they did not want to move from the town gardens.

I suppose if a move from the gardens was not voluntary the organisers of the Mela might well consider that they'd been booted out.
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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2011, 03:28:05 PM »


S'just a turn of phrase - don't read too much into it in your haste to have a pop.

The Mela will outgrow the town gardens, (if it hasn't already).  At the last Mela AGM I attended I raised this very point and asked whether Lydiard would be considered, (by them), a suitable alternative.  The answer at that point was no, and they did not want to move from the town gardens.

I suppose if a move from the gardens was not voluntary the organisers of the Mela might well consider that they'd been booted out.


The Mela certainly has grown in size and is a very popular event.
I suppose the Swindon Pride event may also find that they to might out grow the town gardens.

I always look forward to attending both these events in the summer  O0
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2011, 04:25:49 PM »

Lydiard is a country park, so while it is big enough to take things like the Mela and Invincible, it's got a very different atmosphere. Organisers like the Town Gardens 'cause it's in the heart of Swindon and has that urban-park feel.

With Invincible, it does represent a tendency to stick loud, big events at Lydiard without talking to the local residents first. They've already got JLS and the Big Arts Day to look forward to...

That said, Lydiard Park has Race for Life, Kite Festival, Mad March Hare and used to take the Lions May Fair, etc, without causing too much trouble. It seems better suited for daytime, family events that need space to spread out.

Perhaps a bit of investment in the Lawns or Polo Ground would create another space for big events in the centre of town?

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2011, 04:38:45 PM »

Perhaps a bit of investment in the Lawns or Polo Ground would create another space for big events in the centre of town?


What next developers bunging 106 money at the council to pay for improvements as Coate is concreted over?   :coffee:

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2011, 04:51:45 PM »

"Lions May Fair"' what happened to that, I used to go with the Penhill Community Association fund raising stall every year - never once saw the actual show, was lucky of we could get around the car boot.

No doubt Richard B will be writing up soon, I remember him being very worried about the Mela and the Town Gardens.
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2011, 04:54:42 PM »

"Lions May Fair"' what happened to that, I used to go with the Penhill Community Association fund raising stall every year - never once saw the actual show, was lucky of we could get around the car boot.

No doubt Richard B will be writing up soon, I remember him being very worried about the Mela and the Town Gardens.

Was that the days of Ray Meader ?
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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2011, 04:59:18 PM »

It certainly was, and Barb, Olive, Willy and Ros. All hands on deck in those days.  I put the dog in the dog show once, she got a highly commended.
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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2011, 10:12:34 PM »

I'm resisting the urge to comment.....

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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2011, 06:07:46 AM »

"Lions May Fair"' what happened to that, I used to go with the Penhill Community Association fund raising stall every year - never once saw the actual show, was lucky of we could get around the car boot.

No doubt Richard B will be writing up soon, I remember him being very worried about the Mela and the Town Gardens.


I remmeber the car getting stuck in the mud in the overflow car park each year. Happy days!

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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2011, 09:11:50 AM »


Perhaps a bit of investment in the Lawns or Polo Ground would create another space for big events in the centre of town?


Is it just me or are there fewer events taking place at the Polo Ground?  Apart from the fireworks (and the unofficial chinese lantern lauch) I can't think of anything else that has taken place recently (or is planned for that matter).

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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2011, 10:35:50 AM »


Perhaps a bit of investment in the Lawns or Polo Ground would create another space for big events in the centre of town?


Is it just me or are there fewer events taking place at the Polo Ground?  Apart from the fireworks (and the unofficial chinese lantern lauch) I can't think of anything else that has taken place recently (or is planned for that matter).


Generally the whole spectrum of entertainment in the town has been on a downward spiral for years. For a town with a population closing in on 200000 we are very lacking in venues to attract the big acts. A small theatre and only the Oasis and Meca. Its all about getting bums on seats to draw the gig crowds to make it worthwhile to get the top acts here. Very true that we have many decent parks for open air venues and in years gone by we had various shows like the ones at Lydiard arranged by the Lions; a good all round event for everyone. Lets face it; if a farmer can turn a muddy field into perhaps the best event around in a very small village
it beggars belief why we with all the land available cannot get something together. Could it be our Council blocks it in case it becomes popular and will stop them covering it with houses?
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Re: Bowl Concerts 2011
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2011, 07:12:07 AM »

Did anyone go to 80s night?