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Actually it's a party political broadcast from the green party. But if I'd said so in the title then you probably wouldn't have bothered reading this thread, and you probably won't see it on the telly because the greens don't have the same sort of advertising power as the big parties  :-\

It's Caroline Lucas though, leader of the green party and someone who I have a lot of respect for (despite my lack of faith in politicians generally), so I hope people will take 3 minutes to listen to what she has to say.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/1BKo_NlwZOQ" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/1BKo_NlwZOQ</a>


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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2011, 08:25:03 PM »
hmmm,
Politicians do the weirdest things!

Isn't this called dying on stage..
not what you want on a Comedy night out.. now if she had done a proper stand up..!! That would be a vote winner.

She sounds like she's had a bit of Blair speech coaching too.



I do agree with the point that smaller parties and Independent candiadates get very little or no coverage.

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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 09:11:57 AM »
Good speech and well delivered, (who cares is she's had coaching - it's better than sitting through a long one with no presentation skills).

However, I don't think she would have done herself and the Green Party any good doing that, you just have to look at the embarrassed faces in the audience and can imagine the conversations on the way home. 
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 09:21:59 AM »
It was a rather strange approach to electioneering, but Caroline Lucas would get my vote anytime. I first met her about 20 years ago and she always spoke with clarity and purpose. She has never been a rabble rouser and her speech to this young audience did her credit. 
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 12:31:57 PM »
She comes over well in discussion shows and interviews on the tele too.
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 01:37:21 PM »
That's actually one of the better shot and produced PPBs I've seen.

Outside of the ConLabLib parties, the Greens are the only party to be granted airtime by the BBC for the English Local Elections in May. Their PPB goes out on both BBC1 and BBC2 on the 27th April.

Don't know whether UKIP or the BNP supplied PPBs or not, but the BBC isn't showing them in England.
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2011, 08:13:58 AM »
I Liked it.

 Brilliant idea to change the energy of a venue like this. The contrast will have stuck in some peoples' minds, if not everyone's

The Green Party have their work cut out to make a difference in a culture that is apathetic and used to the same old same old. Change is what is needed and Caroline has struck out in a very unique way-IMHO.

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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2011, 08:28:51 AM »
Read their manifesto. Have the Greens got a local Manifesto? http://swindongreens.org.uk/manifesto/ if so can someone point me in the direction of it? I know some of us scrutinise UKIP for being 1 issue and how relevant locally their message is, but what about the greens?

http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/greens-launch-local-election-campaign-its-no-joke.html

If I consider voting Green localy what am I actually voting for?

I am just asking the question, what will a Green council do for Swindon?

BTW Their Housing Policy is a sympathetic  version of the Post War Government's homes for everyone  :clap: Will the greens have a prefab programme?
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2011, 09:52:53 PM »
I Liked it.

 Brilliant idea to change the energy of a venue like this. The contrast will have stuck in some peoples' minds, if not everyone's

The Green Party have their work cut out to make a difference in a culture that is apathetic and used to the same old same old. Change is what is needed and Caroline has struck out in a very unique way-IMHO.

Its true too.


That's pretty much what I thought, although I couldn't find the words for it at the time.

Read their manifesto. Have the Greens got a local Manifesto? http://swindongreens.org.uk/manifesto/ if so can someone point me in the direction of it? I know some of us scrutinise UKIP for being 1 issue and how relevant locally their message is, but what about the greens?

http://www.greenparty.org.uk/news/greens-launch-local-election-campaign-its-no-joke.html

If I consider voting Green localy what am I actually voting for?

I am just asking the question, what will a Green council do for Swindon?


Fair point, it looks like the Swindon greens need more local stuff in their manifesto rather than repeating the national manifesto.

I'm not aligned to any party and think that political parties are part of the problem rather than part of the solution (as poor Jenni knows all too well from my refusal to join the greens) but I have a good, and local, reason for supporting them in this election.

Every year, when the list of candidates for election to SBC is published, I scan it for names I recognise. If I recognise any names, it's usually because they're already / have been in the past a SBC cllr, or because they've previously stood for election.

But when I see the names of the green candidates, I tend to see the names of people I already know from other (non party political) campaigns, be it environmental, animal welfare, human rights, social justice or whatever.

The impression I get is that the green candidates want to make the world a better place, and that standing for election to SBC is just one of the ways in which they hope to do so, whereas the candidates for the other parties just want to get elected / start a career in politics.

There are of course exceptions to this (e.g. Chris Watts) but that's just my general impression.
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2011, 09:59:09 PM »
Good speech and well delivered, (who cares is she's had coaching - it's better than sitting through a long one with no presentation skills).

However, I don't think she would have done herself and the Green Party any good doing that, you just have to look at the embarrassed faces in the audience and can imagine the conversations on the way home.

I Like her - she does come across well. I did see her on the news on TV quite a while back and thought what a nice lady she was.
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2011, 03:00:13 AM »

And she's fit  :)

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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2011, 07:28:46 AM »
Simon - I always found the Greens quite right of centre, particularly on Europe. And they can be quite anti-Israel. Is this still the case? Are the party still calling for a complete boycott of Israel?
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Re: Caroline Lucas unleashed on an unsuspecting comedy night crowd
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2011, 09:33:45 AM »
"And she's fit"    Oye, you ain't supposed to notice that!

Surely a pretty ankle wouldn't cloud your judgement , would it? Geoff?
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