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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2011, 09:11:24 PM »
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Nuclear is not a choice it it as a final option forced by facing ones fears.

im not quite sure what you mean, Nuclear is a choice until we run out of carbon based fuels the problem is everyone talks about using renewable energy sources but we are limited with the present technology, until the next technological revolution happens we will be stuck with using carbon based fuels just for pure convenience.

Everything on earth contains carbon , you , me, your pc, absolutely everything. Carbon is a by-product of a dying star, during the last few moments of a stars life, its mass suddenly decreases and then explodes creating a super-nova, the energy from this explosion creates a temperature of more then 15,000,000 times that of the suns core and as the temperature rises carbon is expelled as dust as the hydrogen turns to helium.
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2011, 10:24:38 PM »
Prof Brian Cox, top bloke, but makes my head hurt.

Still say those Jap nukes are pretty decent, earthquake, tsunami and explosions and the damn things still haven't made anyone glow in the dark. That is outstanding

Wonder how many wind turbines would have been required to deliver the same output and how they would have fared?

Yes I do remember the Variomatic, ugly little bugger that looked like a Trabant, but, like Prof Cox, head numbingly clever.
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2011, 09:29:35 AM »
Mart "and the damn things still haven't made anyone glow in the dark"

Well, not as far as we know, Aye Mart.

They may well still be saying that, when the Earth is doing just that (read Mellons posting!)

I keep telling you I'm a star person and I have the certificate to prove it!

Ps why is it some trust nothing our own gvernment tells us, but believe the Japanese government is open and honest.
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2011, 09:57:50 AM »
Yes I do remember the Variomatic, ugly little bugger that looked like a Trabant, but, like Prof Cox, head numbingly clever.

That is the best description of the DAF Variomatic I have ever come across.  O0
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2011, 07:46:00 PM »
Yes I do remember the Variomatic, ugly little bugger that looked like a Trabant, but, like Prof Cox, head numbingly clever.

That is the best description of the DAF Variomatic I have ever come across.  O0

was that the thing with those cones and single belt?
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 07:50:11 PM »
Yes Mellon little more than an elastic band
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 07:50:57 PM »
how.........retro?  ;D
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 09:51:21 PM »
Ps why is it some trust nothing our own gvernment tells us, but believe the Japanese government is open and honest.

It's because we enjoy ours on a daily basis, it's like a comfy old pair of testicle clamps slippers. We slip them on and find, remarkably, they are even more uncomfortable than last time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variomatic

Achey head.

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Oooh no.
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2011, 02:25:09 PM »
An article that's sure to cause a few raised eyebrows here (when you consider the author - although I'm sure half of what he writes is purely to cause an outcry):

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Every energy technology carries a cost; so does the absence of energy technologies. Atomic energy has just been subjected to one of the harshest of possible tests, and the impact on people and the planet has been small. The crisis at Fukushima has converted me to the cause of nuclear power.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/21/pro-nuclear-japan-fukushima
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2011, 07:55:57 PM »
Agreed, but every reactor should be built to the Japanese spec, absolutely astonishing.

And some very, very brave people seem to have just got the power back on.

Think of s life without power, or rationed power, or power at 10 times the price. Unless the green gear ups it's game then few other options are available, so make the absolute best of what is available. I can't see a better option than nuclear but I'm open to being educated.
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Re: Incredible highlighting of the devastation in Japan
« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2011, 08:38:23 PM »
An article that's sure to cause a few raised eyebrows here (when you consider the author - although I'm sure half of what he writes is purely to cause an outcry):

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Every energy technology carries a cost; so does the absence of energy technologies. Atomic energy has just been subjected to one of the harshest of possible tests, and the impact on people and the planet has been small. The crisis at Fukushima has converted me to the cause of nuclear power.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/21/pro-nuclear-japan-fukushima


I agreed with the article (based on what's happened so far)

But I'd rather reserve judgement until we know what's actually happened, and they've definitely got the reactors back under control.

I also think the Germans in particular have lost the plot on this one a bit...  people need to understand risk + cost / benefit analysis.  On the other hand I do hope that whilst we don't need to worry too much about a magnitude 9 earthquake, we do need to worry about the possibility of a 30 foot tsunami in nuclear plant design (i.e. make sure the pumps aren't at sea level

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