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Planning Control | Westminster Hall debates
« on: January 13, 2011, 11:00:15 AM »
Planning Control | Westminster Hall debates
12 January 2011, 5:30 pm

I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this excellent debate. I am sure that all of us here have similar issues. In my constituency there is the proposed Tadpole Farm development, and traffic concerns are a major issue. Too often developers ride roughshod over the concerns of residents. I therefore fully support this debate, and very much hope that local communities will be empowered to get appropriate development.

Source: Justin Tomlinson's recent appearances (TheyWorkForYou)




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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2011, 11:30:34 AM »
Planning Control | Westminster Hall debates
12 January 2011, 5:30 pm

I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this excellent debate.  I am sure that all of us here have similar issues. In my constituency there is the proposed Tadpole Farm development, and traffic concerns are a major issue. Too often developers ride roughshod over the concerns of residents. I therefore fully support this debate, and very much hope that local communities will be empowered to get appropriate development.

Source: Justin Tomlinson's recent appearances (TheyWorkForYou)


That said it was not much of a contribution to the excellent debate and not a peep about the council or the planning committee I wonder why?
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I congratulate my hon. Friend on securing this excellent debate. (Yawn says that every time)
Has Justin Tomlinson MP done a volt face after Tuesday's night's meeting? Justin as you well know it is not the developer, that is  riding roughshod over the concerns of developers it is the council that is granting the planning permission or am I mistaken?
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« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2011, 11:42:49 AM »
Has Justin Tomlinson MP done a volt face after Tuesday's night's meeting? Justin as you well know it is not the developer, that is  riding roughshod over the concerns of developers it is the council that is granting the planning permission or am I mistaken?

Exactly! Justin Tomlinson was a Councillor at the time when the Swindon Core Strategy consultation draft document (July 2009) provided for a mixed-use development of 2,000 homes at Tadpole Farm under land use policy SSP9.

We all know to our cost that once something gets into the Council's town plan, it's curtains.

That being said it is the developers who put forward the sites to the Council.
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« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2011, 12:03:04 PM »
Exactly! Justin Tomlinson was a Councillor at the time when the Swindon Core Strategy consultation draft document (July 2009) provided for a mixed-use development of 2,000 homes at Tadpole Farm under land use policy SSP9.


Well said Jean he and Robert Buckland appeared on a Conservative in touch claiming bad government policy and had U turned
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Justin Tomlinson, Conservative Parliamentary candidate for North Swindon, said, “This is just disgraceful behaviour from Labour.

“It’s significant that yesterday’s statement was co-written by their new parliamentary candidate, who is a Surrey Councillor living about a hundred miles away.
http://www.swindonconservatives.com/news/661/

I think this says much about Justin Tomlinson's contribution before the election to now when he is in government.
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Cllr Justin Tomlinson, North Swindon Conservative candidate, "We have seen first hand how the Labour Government has given too much power to the developers.  It should be use the local residents who help shape developments, rather than simply being penalised by inappropriate over development."
http://www.swindonconservatives.com/news/665/

Has anyone reminded Justin Tomlinson MP that the bit MP after his name now means he is in government so why does he not back up that quote and get it delivered rather than his contribution to the debate, which could be a  bit misleading?

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(From  Jean) We all know to our cost that once something gets into the Council's town plan, it's curtains.
That being said it is the developers who put forward the sites to the Council.


The council can put planning conditions on ithe development  or is that only when unminuted information exchange meetings with the councillors have not taken place with the developers?
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« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2011, 03:44:22 PM »
Can Ringer or Muggins tell us if we had a labour council, what would have happened to these on other planning applications.

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« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2011, 04:10:02 PM »
Can Ringer or Muggins tell us if we had a labour council, what would have happened to these on other planning applications.

Let us stick to the reality of the situation as it is at this moment, this is a Conservative Council with 2 Conservative MPs  that is today's reality. They are in Charge here and as you know it is what Rod Bluh wanted, it is what Justin Tomlinson MP wanted, it is what Robert Buckland MP wanted, and it is what the Tory councillors wanted. They now have to deal with the fruits of their success and enjoy it.

I would have thought the government could change the previous government's law if it was a bad one?  Why don't they do that? Can you possibly answer why they have not?

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« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2011, 04:18:17 PM »
Kohima, I don't know, I know what happened when we did have one, huge developments went through.   We did get a hearing though and we did chip bits off.   

There were lots of activists compared with now - that activism dropped off, in a big way.  Activist are quite political even if not party political, they care and they turn out to vote, they particpate.   For over ten years Laws.projects/funding etc. etc. have been brought in to turn around that disaffection with engagement.  We had the committee structure at the council then where our councillors could properly represent our views.

Would Labour have listened more and managed that process better? well they couldn't have done worse than this lot! Would they listen about development?  Well, they didn't really did they. 

This government is now saying they are listening and bringing/brought in the localism bill, if you read that it's supposed to hand power back to local councils AND communities, but we are not getting much of a look in are we?

In the case of developers, each government is as bad as the other, but Labour did it kinder and not so bullying.  i.e. I was angry then but not bloody furious like I am now! Because now there are changes made by their own Conservative government, that our present council could use to save Coate and reduce the effects of the other planning issues on the communties already there in the West and North.



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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 07:22:51 PM »
I almost choked on my cup of coffee this morning after listenin to the Graham Mack Breakfast show on BBC Wiltshire.

There was a discussion re: plans to build 3000 houses near Peatmoor in West Swindon !
I heard Peter Greenhalgh on the radio - i dont think he was none too happy with the proposal which came from central government I believe . Nick Martin also gave his view, however I had the hair dryer going so didn't hear that bit.

If I find today's snippets when they are on GM's website, I will post them, so for the time being, listen to his previous programme below (it may have been from yesterday)

However I have managed to find the radio link re: Coate Water which is interesting and a 'Must' to listen to. Jean Saunders is also on there. Click on the link below then look at the 3rd snippet down, click on it and listen:
http://www.mackmedia.co.uk/8th-mack-nuggets-audio-video

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