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Re: Justin Tomlinson Letter to the Adver
« Reply #60 on: December 26, 2010, 05:12:07 PM »
Cable is a Blabbermouth and I remember John Sopel button holed him on the politics show http://www.talkswindon.org/index.php?topic=5609.0 Cameron and Clegg are gutless for not sacking him their weakness will haunt them unless of course Cable was right there is a Tory lead "Maoist" revolution against  the NHS and welfare state with winter fuel payments for pensioners are to be axed? Anyone who thinks cable is more popular now please provide the evidence to back it up. He may be dancing on a TV show but his political foot work is ham fisted.

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Vince Cable is getting a kicking over the lib dem: 'you'll pay £389 more vat each year under the Tories' claim



He argued with Sopel who showed him up he said you would pay then shifted it to you might pay. Actually both were right only Cable is now. (for the moment) still one of the ones stuffing us all over the VAT rise.
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« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2010, 06:12:58 PM »
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The fact he is still a Cabinet Minister, despite his gaff, speaks volumes.

The fact he ever became a cabinet minister was only because of the coalition, the fact that he is still a cabinet member demonstrates the cowardice of Cameron and Clegg not to mention their hypocricy.  They didn't wait a heartbeat before the consigned Lord Young to the scrapheap.

Cable is a vain man, how else can you explain or excuse his 'desire' to inveigle two pretty girls with details of his personal thoughts, on subjects which he ought to have kept to himself
Yes, it shows that the coalition have been forced to keep the man who said he'd be able to bring it down within their ranks due to wanting to keep up certain pretences.
Great.
Even Cable has described his comments/conduct as 'embarrassing' and yet some still choose to defend him. Weird.

Des/20aye, as I said in another post…
Well there’s no fool like an old fool. And to be perfectly honest (but totally unPC here so sorry lady TS’er) which of us men haven’t been tempted to buy a barmaid a drink because she’s good looking and given us a bit of flattery?
Afraid my hand goes up straight away.  :santa_embarassed:

I suspect that it’s not a “Honey Trap” that he will be caught quickly again in.
People often say they want their politicians to be in touch with the people, to be at their level and not diffident or remote. Well if people want this then they also have to accept that ALL politicians are human and will make mistakes.
Des/20aye can you in all honesty say that you have never done anything you might not have done due to be flattered?

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« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2010, 06:20:23 PM »
Des/20aye can you in all honesty say that you have never done anything you might not have done due to be flattered?

Honestly? No, I've never done that. I'd also like to think that an older man such as Cable, in the position he's reached, would have more integrity in a professional situation than you or I would down the pub trying to pull.
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« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2010, 08:58:56 PM »
Ah - I wish I could, hand on heart say it as 20eye does - but sadly I have been fooled by such flattery.  However, I would like to think I had learned from my indiscretion. I still hold that Mr Cable should have been more 'guarded' in what he said

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« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2010, 09:05:03 PM »
I agree.   He should have been more guarded. 

But that doesn't make him, as 20Eyes would have it, a failed politician.  Quite the contrary in many people's eyes. 

Listening to national radio discussions and reading online comments on national newspaper websites across the political spectrum shows strong anecdotal evidence supporting Cable for wanting to stand-up to the relentless commercialisation of organisations such as News International whilst being scathing of the ethics and not-so-hidden agenda of the Telegraph.

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« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2010, 09:47:11 PM »
scathing of the ethics and not-so-hidden agenda

That's that irony stuff ain't it?

I have a truth I use to preserve my position of power and privilege which makes me somewhat damp, then I have a truth for the oiks who come to bathe in my greatness.

Open government my arse, a holier than thou scrote who professed to be a bit different and a cut above the rest is exposed as a bullshitting two faced twonk just like the majority of the herd.

Big surprise.
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Re: Justin Tomlinson Letter to the Adver
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2010, 09:59:39 PM »
"Jesus H Mart"

I'm resisting the urge to call Tomlinson a lump of fecal matter arranged in a geometric cylinder with topographic irregularities.

I wonder if Mr Tomlinson is struggling in westminster? Anyway where's my Marvin Gaye album....."I heard it through the grapevine....."
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« Reply #67 on: December 28, 2010, 07:59:20 PM »
I wonder if Mr Tomlinson is struggling in westminster? Anyway where's my Marvin Gaye album....."I heard it through the grapevine....."

It could be a deal is being done to select a libdem for his seat and not put a conservative up.  If it is not wishful thinking by potential candidates it could be why he is being briefed against. Briefed against don't you love the way  that is the word used when MPs get slagged off. Keeping on the musical theme if he is struggling then he will not be reselected and he will be a 1 hit wonder.
 

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« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2010, 08:04:25 PM »
I wonder if Mr Tomlinson is struggling in westminster? Anyway where's my Marvin Gaye album....."I heard it through the grapevine....."

It could be a deal is being done to select a libdem for his seat and not put a conservative up.  If it is not wishful thinking by potential candidates it could be why he is being briefed against. Briefed against don't you love the way  that is the word used when MPs get slagged off. Keeping on the musical theme if he is struggling then he will not be reselected and he will be a 1 hit wonder.

could you explain that a bit more simply if possible, im having trouble following the first half of your post  :santa_smiley:
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« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2010, 08:09:49 PM »
Could a deal be being done between conservatives and libdems to carve up seats in Swindon there are two seats. 1 for a tory and 1 for a libdem.

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« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2010, 08:36:49 PM »
Could a deal be being done between conservatives and libdems to carve up seats in Swindon there are two seats. 1 for a tory and 1 for a libdem.

aaah right.....i wouldnt of thought theyd do that to be honest
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« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2010, 08:44:54 PM »
Any ideas as to how the conservatives and libdems will decide which constituencies to fight now that they are best friends.

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« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2010, 08:46:26 PM »
Any ideas as to how the conservatives and libdems will decide which constituencies to fight now that they are best friends.
dunno, what do you think?
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« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2010, 08:50:11 PM »
I think they will and it will be seats in the south that are staked out and split up clegg and cameron are probably already talking about it big thumbs on maps and glum faces all around for some conservatives. Libdems will do better as cameron needs them on board, as his and cleggs popularity levels converge.

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« Reply #74 on: December 29, 2010, 08:54:12 AM »
Can't see that happening, if there had not been a hung parliament there would have been no partnership.   The aim at the next round of election will be to get out of any need for having a partnership, and having a one party government.

The two main parties will hope it will be them and the Libdems will hope they have done enough as a coalition to get them better turn outs.

I expect/suspect that the libdems are hoping the coalition will last long enough for them to bring in electoral reform which will give them a much better chance of gaining seats.
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Re: Justin Tomlinson Letter to the Adver
« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2010, 09:00:29 AM »
Can't see that happening, if there had not been a hung parliament there would have been no partnership.   The aim at the next round of election will be to get out of any need for having a partnership, and having a one party government.

The two main parties will hope it will be them and the Libdems will hope they have done enough as a coalition to get them better turn outs.

I expect/suspect that the libdems are hoping the coalition will last long enough for them to bring in electoral reform which will give them a much better chance of gaining seats.

I will vote no to AV why reward the LibDems.
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« Reply #76 on: December 29, 2010, 09:38:14 PM »
Democracy in action, don't you just love it?

Fire up the panzers and let loose the dogs of wossname I reckon.

Tories and Lib Dems will fall out spectacularly at some none too distant point I think, luckily Labour are waiting to step in and save the country.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.
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« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2010, 09:54:37 PM »
I will vote No to AV, in my opinion  it should be a simple yes or No. How will the question on the ballot papers be written?
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« Reply #78 on: December 29, 2010, 11:15:57 PM »
Its got to happen yet, don't get too excited, they may u-turn yet
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« Reply #79 on: December 29, 2010, 11:59:20 PM »
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Democracy in action, don't you just love it?

Fire up the panzers and let loose the dogs of wossname I reckon.

Tories and Lib Dems will fall out spectacularly at some none too distant point I think, luckily Labour are waiting to step in and save the country.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

 :agreed:

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