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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2010, 12:48:34 PM »
I took the survey at http://www.whodoivotefor.co.uk/ 

Cons 24%  Lib Dem 24%  Green 24%  Labour 27%      Damn.....I'm practically a commie.



Anyway, Komadori said:
   
I prefer to look at their record over the last 5 years, not just over the last 5 months, and on all the issues, not just one.


That's fair comment  :) 

And although Mr Buckland hasn't said a great deal on the wifi issue, it seems to me that Geoff is disregarding what little he has said.


Looking back over the records of Bluh, Tomlinson, Wills, Snelgrove & Buckland  there has been almost constant friction between both MP's and Roderick Bluh's micro-cabinet, usually where the MP's have asked questions about Bluh's squandering spending plans. 

In return, Tomlinson and his small cadre of loyalists have remorselessly pecked away at Michael Wills for his 'nosiness' and, if I remember correctly, Robert Buckland often ignored the original point of concern was and instead had a little political nibble at Anne Snelgrove directly.  In the meantime Bluh carried on writing cheques for things we couldn't afford and didn't need while his troops kept the MP's from looking too closely at the stubs in the SBC chequebook.  I think the figure of £7.x Million pounds is important here, but for the moemnet I can't remember quite why - probably the reason the New Swindon Company has been wound up and another £5.x Million is immediately being sunk into its replacement, 'Forward Swindon'.

On balance, (although I freely admit I haven't researched this intensively), I think Snelgroves, (and Wills'), portfolio of engagement with the people and communities of South Swindon, and the borough council on behalf of South Swindon constituents will be much more impressive than many of us might prefer to acknowledge.  Two really filthy long-term cases that spring immediately to mind are the flooding in Hayden Wick and Freshbrook. 

For his part, Robert Buckland obviously could not be 'on the ground' to the same extent as Anne Snelgrove but one of his leaflets claimed he is a 'formidable local campaigner' although actually seeing what his campaign portfolio contains is problematic because Robert seems to prefer campaigning on our behalf by stealth which, after 5 years in the Borough, probably isn't the best way to raise his public profile.
 
I'm really not ignoring what little Robert has said on the WiFi, but neither am I reading into his blog-words what isn't actually there and, further to that, in one of his election leaflets Robert has made no less than 10 personal pledges to the residents of South Swindon, yet already appears to have failed on at least 5 of them in relation to the WiFiasco alone. 

Cllr Rod 'Not One Flaw' Bluh has also done much that many in the Borough disagree with and, if he's re-elected tomorrow, will shortly begin doing a whole lot more that many of us really will not like, especially the Libertarians amongst us.  I'm being deliberately cautious here because 'they' already know that I know 'stuff', but not how much  :) , but I'd like readers to spend a few minutes thinking about why Digital City now wants to WiFi the Town centre urgently.  There are very few potential residential customers there, the internet needs of most businesses are already well provided for, so why the rush?   

Let's assume that a public/private CCTV 'deal' is already well underway, as are plans to use a town-wide CCTV system to enable the speedy identification and fining of parking offenders and litterers. Such a system would also enable SBC to easily charge the rest of us for 'services' being 'delivered' to us as we enter the milking parlour that our regenerated-by-Bluh town centre seems set to become.

Now, bearing in mind that both Robert and Justin have some idea what Bluh and his Micro-Cabinet are up to,  do you feel a little tingle of worry creeping up your spine when they say: "Government Policy Is Being Formed In Swindon" ?

I really am worried that Bluh & Co are already busily creating a micro-model of the Police State which many of us fear.  Tobes is right, my reversal of voting intention really is perverse, and is made even more perverse, because I think the best way to moderate the behaviour of the Autocratic Mr Bluh and his squandering cohorts of micro-mismanaging political mercenaries is to actually return the same person to Parliament that originally supported the creation of the Database state Nationally......

....and hope that the Lib Dems and Tories carry out their 'Cast Iron Guarantees' to kill the crap off in the early days of the expected hung Parliament.

As I've said, the situation is not philosophically ideal for me and I blame/thank Roderick Bluh creating the almost catch-22 I was in.


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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 02:54:22 PM »
I took the survey at http://www.whodoivotefor.co.uk/ 


This hasn't helped me......I read like one of the opinion polls we've been seeing in the media.

33% Blue, 31% Red, 18% Green and 18% Yellow.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2010, 03:11:29 PM »
Earlier in this thread someone makes mention of MP's involving themselves in smaller local issues - I am afraid that ours had to on several occasions, because we couldn't get action out of the council!



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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2010, 03:55:53 PM »
Earlier in this thread someone makes mention of MP's involving themselves in smaller local issues - I am afraid that ours had to on several occasions, because we couldn't get action out of the council!

so Muggins how do you see the same senario if Robert and Justin are elected tomorrow?
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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2010, 08:05:11 PM »
Sorry, I must have somehow missed #2 last time I was on this thread, but I've got to agree with this statement.

I really don't want any Government, but especially not a Conservative Government in Westminster with a massive Blairite-style and Uber-powerful majority.  Not Lib Dem, Not Labour, Not Tory. 


Any government with a majority so large that it can steamroller its legislation through by means of whips and tribalism, is bad for democracy, and disenfranchises not only those who voted for someone else in the constituencies where their MPs were elected, but also disenfranchises those who voted for MPs of other colours who were elected.

I'm kind of looking forward to a hung parliament, and if the stock market doesn't like the idea then they can eat my shorts.

Anyway, what brought me back to this thread...

Interesting... According to http://www.whodoivotefor.co.uk my political views are:- Tory: 27% / Lib Dem: 27% / Labour: 24% / Green: 22%

... pretty even spread. Hence my dillema!


I got 17% Tory, 32% Lib Dem, 41% Green, 10% Labour. A slight surprise that I'm more Tory than Labour, seeing as I consider myself to be a long way to the left of centre, but I think that says more about Labour than it does about me.

But I think my decisions about who to vote for tomorrow have been justified.
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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2010, 08:53:14 PM »
I will be out voting at 7am as you can see I have seen governments come and go and though the years 1979-96 had a crushing impact on me re my employment and my mortgages/houses etc I got through it.  I will get through the next government regardless of whoever wins.

However this is the election that will have an impact on the future of my grand daughter. I am thinking of her future, she has a Baby Bond, has been to sure start/nursery, her school has a good ofstead it has lots of resources and no it is not Abbey meads or oldtown it is in an area of deprivation in this town.

I remember even before  the end of the Major tory years schools were littered with buckets to collect the water from leaks in the roofs and I had to take paper in for the kids to write on, people in hospital waited on trollies to see doctors, you waited over a year for a hospital operation or longer. There are many more things I recall. That is why I am thinking of her future and her child tax credits, and the roof over her head and all those essential things, not the luxuries.

I believe in secret ballot and would not wish to influence people on how they should vote.  I know that I will be voting for my grand daughter's future and that is why I will vote Labour tomorrow morning; its not like I have never done that before.
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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2010, 09:23:48 PM »
I will be out voting at 7am as you can see I have seen governments come and go and though the years 1979-96 had a crushing impact on me re my employment and my mortgages/houses etc I got through it.  I will get through the next government regardless of whoever wins.

However this is the election that will have an impact on the future of my grand daughter. I am thinking of here future, she has a Baby Bond, has been to sure start/nursery, her school has a good ofstead it has lots of resources and no it is not Abbey meads or oldtown it is in an area of deprivation in this town.

I remember even before  the end of the Major tory years schools were littered with buckets to collect the water from leaks in the roofs and I had to take paper in for the kids to write on, people in hospital waited on trollies to see doctors, you waited over a year for a hospital operation or longer. There are many more things I recall. That is why I am thinking of her future and her child tax credits, and the roof over her head and all those essential things, not the luxuries.

I believe in secret ballot and would not wish to influence people on how they should vote.  I know that I will be voting for my grand daughter's future and that is why I will vote Labour tomorrow morning; its not like I have never done that before.

I also believe in protecting secret ballots and open democracy but I discuss which way I intend to vote in both elections because I want my elected represenatives to know that their actions directly influence which candidates I will or will not vote for. 

I've arrived at a voting conclusion which is not philosophically ideal, but I find myself in an imperfect world so practical considerations and everyday priorities come first for me in this election. 

Labour for me too.




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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #27 on: May 05, 2010, 09:57:17 PM »
I got:

Tories 29%
Libs    31%
Green 18%
Labour 29%

I know who I am voting for locally but nationally or so sure.  The  prospect of either George Osboure and Annie in power frightens me big time.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2010, 12:49:08 AM »
So no one wants to Protest Vote then? :-\

I've spoken to a lot of people and the media in Swindon don't seem to have informed people who exactly are standing.

Apparently about 30% are still undecided.. on facebook there are a lot of None of the above and Protest sites all telling people to spoil their votes..  >:(

That is the main reason I'm standing so they don't have to spoil their vote.. but can instead get it counted and published.
In Central I'm hoping for a larger % of the votes and would hope people support me enough to vote me in so I can get a proper debate and decision on Residents parking fees..

Why not make this year the year you protest vote. 
Does it really make a difference if Swindon is red, blue or yellow.?
I think there are a lot of voters that don't give a proverbial ....
Make this the year that people  protest at how westminster politicians have gotten us into another fine mess!


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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2010, 01:04:59 AM »
 

I've spoken to a lot of people and the media in Swindon don't seem to have informed people who exactly are standing.

I hope you've pointed them all towards Talkswindon  :)

Good luck tomorrow, how many votes are you hoping for?

This election is too important for philosophical/ideological protest votes to gain much traction. Those that want to be a part of the decision will vote positively.

I reckon a protest vote will be good for 45 to 55 votes.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2010, 09:09:26 AM »
Who do you think I will be voting for. yes LABOUR of coarse.
As Senior Citizen I need to show my thanks for what I have received since 1997 and compare it with what I had before.
Steve Wakefields comments were brilliant!!
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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2010, 10:27:05 AM »
Wow, I got Labour 37%, Tory/Lib Dems 24% and Greens 15%, however, I didn't answer all the questions truthfully, I was interested to see what party supported what idea. I didn't know Labour is in favour of ID cards for foreign nationals - and the Tories were against a points-based immigration system.

However, I think they missed one pertinent question:

Are you in favour of crippling national debt, austerity measures and Greek style riots?

PS. I'll be voting for Dave, in both the local (Wood) and general (Cameron) elections.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2010, 11:46:58 AM »
bump.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2010, 12:11:46 PM »
I watched one of the Labour Twins, on the marr show this morning, and he reckons they lost, becasue they got it wrong about immigration, nothing to do with the country up to its neck in nearly 3 trillion pounds of debt which will take years to pay off, after, of course, they have stopped the annual deficit  !!

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« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2010, 12:20:25 PM »
Just need for the Nazis to establish a link between the two (debt and immigration not Tweedledum and Tweedledee) and we can see the deomcratic process in all it's glory.

I think we will see a fair bit of mea culpa (is that right) or Gordon culpa in the next few weeks.

From spineless little scrotes who didn't see him off when the opportunity was there, purely out of self interest. Purely to allow this moment.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2010, 12:40:23 PM »
I watched one of the Labour Twins, on the marr show this morning, and he reckons they lost, becasue they got it wrong about immigration, nothing to do with the country up to its neck in nearly 3 trillion pounds of debt which will take years to pay off, after, of course, they have stopped the annual deficit  !!

Here's a thought: What happens if the Tories also continue to borrow ?

*I don't know that they will, just wondering if anything can shake K's faith in the polarised Conservative=All Good and  Labour=All Evil view  ;D

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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2010, 12:48:40 PM »
From spineless little scrotes who didn't see him off when the opportunity was there, purely out of self interest. Purely to allow this moment.

Gits.

Yep.  Not forgetting of course that a lot of people have made a lot of money out of the banks costing us lots of money and the government borrowing lots of money.

Those people are still clinging to HMG....


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« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2010, 09:07:34 PM »
I dont have a good and bad idea of life, Geoff, in fact if you look, things are rubbish whoever is in power, I just think the cons are the best of a bad basket, Steve wrote how he lived through classrooms with leaking roofs, never happened in a labour run school eh, I can think back to when I went to Pinehurst secondary, there was a prison if ever there was one, and when asked, out comes the maggie did this or that tales, no mention of why she came to power and the reasons why, the streets full of rubbish, the queues at the cemetry or the hospital, or the unions putting in for 20% pay rises, which harold and his cronies just gave away like sweets, today on the radio osbourne said that the last man in the office left a note for him to say that there was no money left, darling come on and said it was a tory con, and was expected now they are in power, no mention of the money owed to the world by him and prudence, youll get even more shouts about the railway works shutting down, by coombs and his friends, but if you look, 75% of the works was shut while labour was in power and what was left, couldnt even compete with the likes of Crewe, the last engines made, the western class, were finished at Crewe as they could  build them quicker and cheaper than Swindon,  and now you have the likes of prescot, kelly and that erb from britains got talent made sirs,,,,,,, give it a while and Wills and Snelgrove will appear on the list you watch.... :tickedoff: anybody know why my picture of Kennedy has been taken off ?..

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2010, 08:01:46 AM »

Problem with some avatars - don't know what yet but it's not deliberate or targeted :) will have a look when I get 30 mins free.

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Re: 2010 General Election: Who I will Be Voting For And Why.....
« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2011, 03:36:10 PM »

Bumpity bump.