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This event was in two parts. The first was a Q&A session with the two candidates who had turned up and also cllr David Renard. Swindon 105.5 is making a programme out of this part for broadcast after the election, and I’ve been advised not to publish my footage of it until after the election to make sure I don’t fall foul of the Representation of the People act, seeing as cllr Renard isn’t a candidate in the Penhill ward.

The second part was the hustings proper, which Swindon 105.5 will be broadcasting at 6pm on Tuesday. If you listen to that broadcast then you’ll get to hear the bits I missed, particularly during the discussion of ward cllrs working together and holding joint surgeries, when I was changing tapes and batteries. But one thing in these videos which won’t be in that programme is some snippets of comments and reaction from a few of the audience members.

First the chair introduced the two candidates who were present – Andy Harrison for the Lib Dems, and Laura Baker for Labour. The two other candidates, Raymond Morris for the BNP and Emma Carter for the Tories, were unable to be present, a fact which did not go unremarked.

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The first two questions were about antisocial behaviour. As there were a few questions about this subject in the first part of the meeting too, I (not being from Penhill and not knowing the area particularly well) got the initial impression that Penhill was rife with hooligans and ne’er-do-wells making life hell for the rest of the residents. But Liz Walker of Redoubt set me straight on that point after the meeting.

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Next up was a question about speeding and parking.

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This was followed by a question about how the candidates could demonstrate their commitment to the community in Penhill.

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The next question concerned the candidates’ commitment to attend all the council meetings which were relevant to or could affect Penhill.

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A question about domestic violence followed.

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As I was coming to the end of my first tape (hence the discontinuity in this clip), there were some questions about ward cllrs of different parties working together for the good of the ward, and whether they would hold joint surgeries. To clarify Laura Baker’s remark about living with one of the other cllrs, I think it’s worth pointing out that she’s married to Paul Baker, an existing Labour cllr for Penhill.

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The next question was about damage done to grass verges by vehicles parking on and driving over them.

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An elderly and wheelchair-bound lady raised concerns about the waste and recycling collection service, particularly the way the bins and boxes are left all over the pavement leaving her trapped in her house.

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A question about youth provision in Penhill sparked a fairly heated exchange between Mr Harrison and cllr Paul Baker in the audience. Mr Baker wasted no time in seeking me out at the end of the meeting to clarify that although Labour cllrs from other wards in the cluster had moved to get a particular facility located at the Pinehurst People’s Centre, leaving no such facility in Penhill, he had fought to get it located within Penhill.

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One member of the audience asked why the Tories never seemed to campaign in Penhill, and another poured scorn on the 50% of candidates who were not in attendance, saying is it any wonder voter turnout in Penhill is poor when the candidate turnout is so poor.

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The next question concerned provision for elderly and disabled people.

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Two questions followed about funding cuts, for adult learning and Sure Start.

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The penultimate question concerned Penhill’s green spaces and parks.

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And finally, the WiFiasco reared its ugly head, although the answers also covered other council schemes which have been widely discussed here, and largely considered a waste of money. Mr Harrison suggested a novel use for the Tabernacle stones which was well received by the audience – instead of paying to have them stored, distribute them around Penhill’s grass verges, saving money on storage costs and also preventing people parking on the verges and churning them up.

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Finally the chair closed the meeting with an exhortation to everyone to get out and vote on Thursday, and then I collared him (Kevan) and Lorna (who’d been running round the audience with the radio mic) for their thoughts.

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I don’t know whether Penhill has any more of a problem of voter apathy than any other areas of Swindon, or even compared to the country at large, but there certainly wasn’t any apathy in that room yesterday.


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Simon thank you so much  ;)

You have done a fantastic job at putting this together, you are a star x   :angel:
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Simon,
I have just been contacted by Andy Harrison who wishes to extend his thanks to you  ;)

So on behalf of Mr H - thank you for coming along yesterday and filming the event for us.  :)
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Well Done Simon and Lorna, Kevan and all the others at TSTv and 105.5 you have done a good job and finally it was a good that 50% of candidates were not too busy in the last week before election to attend. TSTV has made it widely avaiable and you can comment on it. I  do not live in Penhill and from what I can see the people there are willing to get involved and not as per the only 20% turnout guff from the BBC.

Congrats to TSTV, what next?
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Simon thank you so much  ;)

You have done a fantastic job at putting this together, you are a star x   :angel:


Why thank you  :embarassed:

I consider it an honour to be asked to come along and film the event.

There was some talk yesterday of arranging a similar meeting with the people responsible for policing Penhill - if this comes about then I'll be happy to come back and film that too if you give me enough notice to get time off work. And if there are any budding video journalists in Penhill then I'll be more than happy to work with them on it.

If there's one thing I've learned during this election campaign, it's that there's actually quite a lot of political activity going on around the town. I've lost count of the number of hustings events being held, and even a fairly switched-on person like me has no idea what's being said at most of them because they're not being covered or reported by anyone (there's only one of me and a limit to how much I can do).

Information Technology has moved on in leaps and bounds since the last general election, now people don't need to know how to write HTML or configure web hosts in order to get their information, opinions, photos, videos, whatever, up on the web and accessible by anyone with an internet connection, thanks to sites like TS (thanks Geoff), Facebook, YouTube, Twitter etc.

People have been saying this is the Twitter election, but I don't think we're quite there yet in Swindon. The facilities are there, but as a parallel to what Marilyn said in an audience voxpop tacked onto the end of one of the videos above, we need people to make it happen.

So come on people, go out and vote on Thursday, but don't stay silent until the next election. Use these facilities to tell people what's important to you and why.

A quick note about publishing videos on the www. I'm not a professional film maker by any stretch of the imagination, and I don't have any fancy equipment. All the videos above were recorded on a basic DV camera, the sort that Joseph or Josephine Public might use to record their summer holiday. The editing was done using Windows Movie Maker, a little app which comes free with Windows XP (and I gather there's something similar bundled with Vista and Windows 7). The videos are hosted on youtube, where you can create an account for free and upload to your heart's content (although videos are limited to a maximum of 10 minutes) but there are other video hosting options (see the sticky post in the TSTV forum for more information). So once you've got a device which is capable of recording videos (and most mobile phones can do this these days), there's nothing to stop you from sharing those videos with the world.
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Well Done Simon and Lorna, Kevan and all the others at TSTv and 105.5 you have done a good job and finally it was a good that 50% of candidates were not too busy in the last week before election to attend. TSTV has made it widely avaiable and you can comment on it. I  do not live in Penhill and from what I can see the people there are willing to get involved and not as per the only 20% turnout guff from the BBC.

Congrats to TSTV, what next?

Well I already have Ideas re: the Penhill front , taking on board the issues such as lack of visible policing , highways, ASB and housing.
I would like to get a working party set up to help with the organisation of the next event, which if I have my way - will consist of a panel made up of reps from the local policing team for Penhill, housing, highways, ASB team , the councillors and the wardens.

I would like the same people plus more to attend and look at the issues raised at the question time , and get the reps from each agency to participate in drawing up an action plan to help get the issues resolved and have regular (monthly) follow up review type meetings to see how far the issues raised have been addressed .

I am happy to organise this, but I need a working party - I am sure , well I know my fellow community peeps will all muck in as thats what we do - we support each other which in turn supports , builds and strengthens the community .   :angel:
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Without wishing to pour cold water on the event, because I thoroughly enjoyed it and knowing that Chav, Kevan and even Andy had done all they could to get people to the event - it wasn't the lack of apathy there that concerned me, that apathy could well be found in the other 6,500 plus residents of Penhill Ward who were NOT there. 

Today I received a leaflet from our Conservative candidate and a card from Justin.  Some said that no Conservative Counillors come to Penhill, well they did. A year ago we invited them for the evening and showed them around. We sort of shot ourselves in the foot really, because we were seeking more support for our youth stuff @penhill park.  Cllr Colin Lovell looked longingly over the area and said he wished they had what we have in Moredon Ward - acknowledging I hope the amount of community effort that goes into doing what we do..   

Simon, you are a brick too, spending all that time putting the films up. 

ps just realised no one mentioned Dog pooh, well, not as a question - must be getting somewhere! At last.

 
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Without wishing to pour cold water on the event, because I thoroughly enjoyed it and knowing that Chav, Kevan and even Andy had done all they could to get people to the event - it wasn't the lack of apathy there that concerned me, that apathy could well be found in the other 6,500 plus residents of Penhill Ward who were NOT there. 

Today I received a leaflet from our Conservative candidate and a card from Justin.  Some said that no Conservative Counillors come to Penhill, well they did. A year ago we invited them for the evening and showed them around. We sort of shot ourselves in the foot really, because we were seeking more support for our youth stuff @penhill park.  Cllr Colin Lovell looked longingly over the area and said he wished they had what we have in Moredon Ward - acknowledging I hope the amount of community effort that goes into doing what we do..   

Simon, you are a brick too, spending all that time putting the films up. 

ps just realised no one mentioned Dog pooh, well, not as a question - must be getting somewhere! At last.

Have you thought of having them back as I think it was more than a year ago and asking them to point out all the things they have done for Penhill, since their visit. That is unless you can list them for us?
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Simon,
I have just been contacted by Andy Harrison who wishes to extend his thanks to you  ;)

So on behalf of Mr H - thank you for coming along yesterday and filming the event for us.  :)

Mr H, if you're reading this, you're most welcome, and thank you for taking the time to engage with the electorate. If only you were still on TS to thank me in person (in a virtual sense of course)  :(

Without wishing to pour cold water on the event, because I thoroughly enjoyed it and knowing that Chav, Kevan and even Andy had done all they could to get people to the event - it wasn't the lack of apathy there that concerned me, that apathy could well be found in the other 6,500 plus residents of Penhill Ward who were NOT there. 

Yes, there is that  :(

I'm hoping that you and Chav and the people who attended and/or arranged the event are now networking like mad within the Penhill community to bring this thread to the attention of the people who didn't attend, to get them out to vote, and furthermore to make an informed decision about which candidate to vote for, rather than just voting for a rosette because they / their parents have always voted that way.

Although there have been quite a lot of hustings events around Swindon for the general election, as far as I know this has been the only one in any ward focusing on the council elections and the issues affecting that ward. I think Penhill should be proud of that fact.

Maybe next year someone will organise one in Freshbrook and Grange Park (being the ward where I live) for me and the people who want to become my local cllr, and maybe Penhill will produce a budding video journalist to join the team of community activists who are already working for the good of the ward (like I said, I'm more than happy to help there).
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Replies are being posted faster than I can type. That's got to be a good thing  :)

Well Done Simon and Lorna, Kevan and all the others at TSTv and 105.5 you have done a good job and finally it was a good that 50% of candidates were not too busy in the last week before election to attend. TSTV has made it widely avaiable and you can comment on it. I  do not live in Penhill and from what I can see the people there are willing to get involved and not as per the only 20% turnout guff from the BBC.

Congrats to TSTV, what next?

Well I already have Ideas re: the Penhill front , taking on board the issues such as lack of visible policing , highways, ASB and housing.
I would like to get a working party set up to help with the organisation of the next event, which if I have my way - will consist of a panel made up of reps from the local policing team for Penhill, housing, highways, ASB team , the councillors and the wardens.

I would like the same people plus more to attend and look at the issues raised at the question time , and get the reps from each agency to participate in drawing up an action plan to help get the issues resolved and have regular (monthly) follow up review type meetings to see how far the issues raised have been addressed .

I am happy to organise this, but I need a working party - I am sure , well I know my fellow community peeps will all muck in as thats what we do - we support each other which in turn supports , builds and strengthens the community .   :angel:

Count me out of the working party. I visited Penhill yesterday for the first time in over 20 years (I delivered newspapers there when I was younger and lived with my parents in Stratton) so I'm not qualified to comment on the issues facing Penhill in 2010. But if you want someone to film an event and youtube the results, then please shout, and I will respond. It would be even better if you could find a local person who understands the issues facing Penhill and who can create and publish videos (like I said, I'm more than happy to help any budding video journalists from Penhill).
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 11:33:19 AM »
Steve, we had enough of a problem getting a Party of conservatives in the first place, because we also needed to show them how the volunteers had achieved what we had -with worker support of course, but we drive it.   It we had them back they would point to the Academy take over of one Primary school and the rebuild of the other claiming it, but forgetting it's government money.   I'm really struggling to find anything they have done that has not been done with either government or lottery money and because it's the right thing to do, rather than us pushing and pushing for it and the intervention of a few of their workrs who can see the value fo working with local people.  They won't want to come up and have the broken promises and cuts pointed out to them - like that Academy bus.  They'll want to point to the redevelopment of Braydon Court, which is more to the developers advantage than Penhill's even if it does provide more homes (at higher rents) and we have less say over it because they are housing association. Effectively I think this shows we area pain in their backsides and the sooner everything is flogged off outside fo their remit the better.
I'm surprised there was no questions on Saturday about letting the housing go to a long arm management or the potential for building new council houses, both of which is coming up in the pipeline.

Simon, trying to find people to do stuff is always difficult, although to be fair, there probably are people who would like to do what you did on Saturday, finding them is the thing.  Through TS and your enthusiasm, you were an easy 'hit'.  It should be done by Penhill for Penhill.  It helps develop people's skills and confidence. 

As to telling people to look at TS hustings film, good idea, although Chav and I are always talking about TS when out and about, it might be as well for us to put it out on our email networks, so thanks, that is a timely reminder. Will alert the Library and Learning Centre too where people can have some free time on line.  Shame it's so close to the election we could have done more.

Chav, my mind is a buzz now, i.e. next time: dvd's for the older/housebound people, film shows in the elderly persons dwellings, another evening showing of the film. Using things like the Cafe to play it.

Rather than start another group we have the Penhill Forum (since 1994) already taking forward issues for the other things you mention and a way of getting funding for it. 

If anyone wants to know what the Penhill Forum get's up to the annual report is up on thisiswiltshire Penhill web site. 


 

 
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 01:10:48 PM »
Hi SImon

It would be great if we could use your skills and pair you up with a budding video journalist for Penhill.
You did a fantastic job  ;)

I have the skills, but I would rather step back and let a young person learn how to video, cut, edit and put footage together. This would be good for a group of youngsters as they could all play a part and it would be a good learning curve for them, building confidence along the way.
The key thing is finding them and getting their interest.
We tried with the radio group - Penhill Voice, but we struggled to get the young people involved.
Any way if at first you don't succeed , try, try again as they say.
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2010, 04:56:14 PM »
Is it a CUNNING PLAN Chav?
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 04:59:33 PM »
Is it a CUNNING PLAN Chav?

It is indeedy Bobby B  - shhhhh  :-X
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2010, 06:52:30 PM »
I have no doubt that if we spoke to the the Clivey and the Learning Centre, they could come up with tutors and equipment (which I think we might already have) and programmes.    That's the trouble Chav, we can do these things ourselves, but where do we get the time - gotta share it out.

The art of good management is delegation - aye.
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 09:22:17 PM »
I have no doubt that if we spoke to the the Clivey and the Learning Centre, they could come up with tutors and equipment (which I think we might already have) and programmes.    That's the trouble Chav, we can do these things ourselves, but where do we get the time - gotta share it out.

The art of good management is delegation - aye.

Yep delegation is the key , most definitely  ;)
As for time - well there is just not enough in the day for me as it is - but I like to keep busy, it keeps the upstairs stimulated.
It would be good if the Clivey and the Learning Centre could to a media course in the summer holidays for the kids - I could help out on the odd day then.
Muggins, I will ring you in the week - you have sparked a good Idea  ;D Well done  ;)
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2010, 08:08:56 AM »
To be fair Chav, I'm racking my memory banks, but I think the course has already been done, it's just remembering to include them that's been trained up, in plans at the appropriate time.  It's not a new idea, just come up again.

It's also worth thinking about the remark by Simon, about if the only thing he knew about Penhill was what he heard there on Saturday, he would think that it was rife with ASB, when a quick chat to those who really know (in this case Liz, from Redoubt) can tell him different.  If we do a series of these films, we will have to correct misconceptions - and there are plenty flying about.  We'll talk.   
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Re: TSTV films the Penhill candidates' question time event 1st May 2010
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2010, 09:37:10 AM »
As an observer I did enjoy Saturday afternoon at the hustings, I thought Andy Harrison was confident and at ease with himself. It was interesting to hear him mention how many doors he had knocked on and about his position on the academy bus and other matters. Laura Baker came over as someone who has a sincerity about her and the people in the area. Both are long term residents of Penhill.

I spoke to the Chav about it and my perception is that I believe it is more  of a case that Andy Harrison can win it, rather than Labour will lose it. I don't know what will be happening in the next 48 hrs in Penhill, but if Paddy Power is anything to go by then they would be collecting their winnings from today. http://www.electionbetting.com/

Labour will be pushing for their core vote to roll out for them, LibDems will be offering a change. The others may have prior appointments so on the day may not be able to attend to getting their vote out in Penhill?

Locally for me it looks like election night will be focussed on Penhill, Dorcan, Parks, Moredon, Eastcott all are areas that the two main parties need to hold or win to signal that vote for change is more than just a slogan. Will Andy Harrison be the itching powder that will rub some up the wrong way?:popcorn:

It is believed that the  Swindon Advertiser is not going to print until 4-5am in the morning, anyone care to venture what the headline will be?
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