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Council Meeting - Talk Swindon Q & A
« on: February 16, 2010, 01:21:51 PM »
To recap - these were the questions submitted:

Cllr Justin Tomlinson

•   Recycling is currently at 46% what are the plans to not only maintain this, but to push beyond 50%.
•   Are there any plans for kerbside food waste collection?
•   Are there any plans for a 2nd recycling centre for the East / South of the town?
•   What impact has there been on the plastic recycling scheme since switching from the SBC provided plastic collection bags, to any clear / white bags?
•   What do the waste wardens do to pro-actively encourage recycling?
•   Have we looked into the success of the Windsor voucher reward scheme for residents who recycle?
•   What are we doing to lobby the Government / Potential New Government to do more to tackle excess packaging, this reducing the problem at source?


Richard Shaw

•   Could you please as a local ward Councillor please explain why I have to negotiate the SCS recycling slalom course where I live?  After collection I have to drive my car carefully around and through the recycling bins and their lids and items dropped on the road in the process of collection.
•   A fellow ward Councillor of yours has let slip that there will be a saving made to the recycling budget.  Can you confirm this as Chair of that Committee?
•   Why is there only one recycling centre for a town of 190,000 people and how is it environmentally friendly for cars to queue all over the Waterside Estate.  I have never seen such queues and such long waits since the days of the GDR when it would take up to four hours to cross the border.  This is a serious question and not a joke.  What is you proposal to reduce the waiting and handling time to a maximum of twenty minutes?
•   As it is local I use the Purton facility run by Hills.  They recycle more than SBC for example small batteries, and proudly display that 79% of what comes to the site is recyled.

Why does Waterside only achieve 61%?  Quite a difference considering the cost in terms of landfill etc.

Is this a case to employ Hills to manage our Waste Management?
•   Why does the Council provide just one recycling bin to each address?
•   Why do the recycling men leave anything not fitting into the recycling bin?
•   Tetra Packs - If they can do it at Purton how come we can't do it in Swindon?  A case for out with SCS and give the job to an organisation that does the business.  Mind you I don't know what we would with all our very bespoke recycling wagons?

And as listed above why can't SCS Waterside match Hills recycling figure of 79%?
•   Why does the Council sort at the kerbside and not at the depot?  Does this not prevent the maximisation of recycling by taking in sub contract-work?
•   Why is the Council still collecting Black Bags from some parts of the town and where is this being carried out?

Tea Boy

•   How much will all this cost in the light of further restricted budgets and how likely is it we'll see cut backs in what's recycled rather than expansion of the services

Is this not just one tory of councillor (and prospective MP) trying to be proactive in recycling (environmental issues), while another is clearly planning to cut budgets (Rod and his pals). Perhaps Justin can confirm the amounts being provided for this service in this financial year and what amount is being provided in the budget from April 2010 for this service. Figures i have heard about range from a -15% to a -25% cut back over 4 years.

Its takes money to recycle, so less money = less recycling. Recycling should be about sustainability both environmental and financial

I can't see how any expansion in service is viable.

I also popped down the tip recently. The recycling  'score on the door' by the access ramp stated recycling was at 61%, is this not the figure your are after.

I am sure i have heard something along the lines of..... failure to hit certain recycling targets will incur goverment fines in the £millions.

what are those targets and are the Council reaching them or facing further penalties

Tobes

•   Justin - what about some policies aimed at fining the producers of excess packaging, of encouraging the re-introduction of returnable bottles, of bringing back paper bags etc - holistic policies which get us away from this recycling mania and back to the ideas of reduce and reuse?

Mart

•   You have to wonder what the carbon footprint is of all them bin wagons, I'd love to know the running costs and utilisation figures.

I bet they are cack.

Ditto and a nod to Tea Boy vis a vis the 61% figure down the tip, dunno where the need for two tier recycling reporting came from. Belgium probably, p'raps the marmosets have gone off message. I went down there when the  pursuit of recycling excellence ground to a halt for four weeks cos there was a bit of snow, I in the meantime had shot up to Surrey and back and spent a couple of weeks nobbing about in Bromsgrove in my two wheel drive surrender monket mobile. The plastic bottle recycling wossname was yet again full so I had to abandon me box, best manufacture another one.

I think there always was plans for 2 but the Council didn't get the money it was expected

Shame, should have had a word with the Rikkster, he seems very adept at fund extraction.

As to the slalom, we are required to place our ickle boxes neatly and precisely at the border of our properties, it is clealry the case that they are never replaced in such a manner.

Recycling is driven by EU targets, if that was accepted and publicised perhaps it would be managed better.

Go and give Tesco a kicking for producing waste if this really is a sincere crusade to save the planet.


•   Could we not operate a swapshop to reunite lids and boxes.

I have 2 boxes and three lids, I'll swap my lid for a box.

Oh dear, that's not going to work is it?

None of this is really radical though is it, we are still footling about, in the words of General Marshall we are fighting the problem.

Householders do more and more recycling, though to what extent seems somewhat elastic, more and more containers are produced to recycle into, more and more wagons are despatched to collect said containers (and hurl them gaily into the air by way of celebration) more and more tips are required to process all this recycled gubbins.

Why isn't the same energy and arseache being inflicted on the source of the waste?

Mmmm?


Simon

•   Unlike quite a lot of others here on TS, I'm a big supporter of fortnightly landfill collections and weekly recycling collections. But PLEASE can the people who do the collecting put the boxes back at least somewhere near where they were originally left, and leave the lids with the boxes? I consider myself lucky these days to retrieve both a box and a lid when I return home from work of a Tuesday, I've long stopped caring whether they were the same box and lid I put out that morning. And I currently have no lids.

Komandori

•   They are very good round here at putting the orange boxes back where they came from. In contrast, wheelie bins are left scattered all over the place.

A question to add to Mr Tomlinson's list.
Could consideration be given to removing the restriction that everything to be recycled has to go inside the orange box? (The thing that particularly annoys me is the refusal to take large bits of cardboard left beside orange boxes on a dry day. I appreciate that if it's raining or likely to rain, everything needs to go in the box.)


Moley

•   My pet peeve is that on a couple of occasions the local recycling collector has had a go at my wife because we haven't put paper/cans/bottles in separate plastic bags to make their job easier (we do sort stuff reasonably well in the box, and to me using plastic bags in this way completely goes against the point of recycling.

They haven't ever (however) had a go at me   

I also have to go on a weekly lid + box hunt - I'm usually the last home in our neighbourhood so get whatever's left.

am also thinking of getting a bike stand to tie my plastic container bags to in windy weather - but not sure the recycling staff would bother to take the time to untie them (as we're up a hill it can get quite windy and the flying bottle bags can be even more of a danger than the plastic lids in the morning..

Bobby Bingo

•   I know that a little while ago there was talk of putting another depot in the east by the Dorcan Industrial site.


Kohima

•   If you go up edison road in Dorcan est, ther is a large area, whee a unit used to be, it is up for let at the moment, but if the council bought this, it could be turned into a waste depot like the one at Newbury, which is drive in and out, ..

Alex

•   As for Dorcan as a possible other site- not unless the flooding problem which has always been there  is resolved. ( The original Roman site of Swindon was in Dorcan and according to records flooding was an issue then too).

Kecl

•   Here are a few questions for you Justin -

What is the life expectancy of wheelie bins?

How many have been replaced since they were brought in?

What happens to the old one, how are they recycled? 

I ask because ours lasted for just over 2 years and was taken away yesterday to be replaced because it was damaged – presumably during emptying.
 They had a problem with it before Xmas as well, when the lifting gear threw the whole bin into the back of the lorry   It took ‘em a good 10 minutes to retrieve it.

Andy H

•   Justin, an area I think the borough council also needs to encourage more within the community is “Junk Swap” days.

Easy to organise, one person’s junk is another’s treasure. At the end of the day, anything left over is JUNK and carted off to the tip. (I’m sure the tip transport costs could be recovered by a small one off entrance charge)

Whenever I’ve been down the recycling centre I am amazed at the amount of things people throw into the skips that are perfectly usable but are being thrown out just because the item is being upgraded or people fancy something new.  To be honest the waste makes me quite angry…..

If there was a regular “Junk Swap” day it may help to reduce the unnecessary throughput at the recycling centre and many items would really become “RECYCLED”

Muggins

•   Andy, some of the things left over at the end of Junk days , is not junk, just that no one wanted it that particular day, so it needs something else afterwards.

I could never understand why the borough does not have it's own reclaimation yard.

Jenny Miles

•   I agree that more needs to be done about reducing the about of packaging we buy in the first place. It must be reduce, reuse, restore, recycle - in that order! Of course, at lot of this packaging is required because the things we buy travel from so far away, that also needs to be addressed - more stuff, particularly food, grown/produced, sold and used locally. This is something that is difficult for SBC to do alone though, as Justin said, this has to be a matter for government policy. I'm glad Justin and I agree strongly on this (and so can team up on Anne at debates  !) .

The swap day is a good idea - this is done twice a year in Germany. After stuff has been collected I would like to see one/some of the empty shops we have in Swindon being used for this purpose. I'm sure the owners would give up the space for free if they didn't have to pay their taxes on them. This could mean the stuff gets moved around a bit though so a more permanent base would be good too.

As for the recycling centre, it's of constant annoyance to me that everytime my hubby walks there with stuff  (we don't own a car and he couldn't drive one anyway - his too blind) he's told he can't bring it in without a car  ! He's told to go home and order a cab or ask a friend to take him back up  . This generally results in an argument and them finally saying they will take it around themselves. You should be able to walk round. Needing a car to recycle is just plain daft  . If you build a new one, please consider this.

Also, can you start recycling Tetra Pak cartons please. At present, I either walk them down to tescos (where I certainly don't shop) or send them back with my mum to Dorset when she visits  . Batteries and EE light bulbs also - as these are often binned instead of being disposed of properly.

Finally, can we please stop sending our plastic waste to China   - there are places in the Uk and we should be using them and providing/supporting jobs. It also gives recycling a bad name.

I'll try to pop along to the meeting to  help/support you   




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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2010, 01:22:45 PM »
Written answers from Richard Fisher, Recycling Officer...  :coffee:

Written response for questions tabled at Economic, Environmental and Sustainability Overview and Scrutiny Committee on 11 February 2010.
I have answered the questions as presented to me.  Rather than a short, direct answer, I have attempted to expand on the information given, particularly where it is important that the answer is put into context.  However, if I have gone off track and have misinterpreted the original question, I am happy to follow up if a more specific question is answered.  Some of the questions are directed at Cllr Tomlinson as a Ward Councillor or as Chair of the Committee.  I have answered on his behalf.
Some of the questions repeat others.  Where this has happened, it may be necessary to scan to find a fuller answer previously.
One of the clear messages I have got from these, very useful, questions, is that there is some communications that we need to improve upon as people are not aware of all the services we provide.  Also, if people do have specific questions like this in the future, please contact your Ward Councillor or the StreetSmart team direct on 01793 445501 or streetsmart@swindon.gov.uk
Richard Fisher.  Head of Wastes Management.  StreetSmart.
Cllr Justin Tomlinson
•   Recycling is currently at 46% what are the plans to not only maintain this, but to push beyond 50%.
As of the end of December 2009, we were reusing, recycling or composting 47.2% of our municipal waste.  This is an improvement from the end of March 2009, when our rate for the financial year was 40.2%.
To go beyond our current rate, and beyond 50%, we are focussing upon waste reduction, re-use and enhancements to the recycling services wherever possible.  The main focus is the use of the Waste Wardens provided by Swindon Commercial Services Limited.  This team identifies and targets low performing areas of the Borough and is able to provide direct support to residents that are producing too much waste for their wheelie bin.  They do this through face-to-face discussion with the residents and provide extra advice, containers or whatever else they need to manage their waste effectively.  This has had very successful results in some areas of the town and I’d encourage anyone who is having trouble dealing with their waste to get in touch with the StreetSmart Contact Centre and ask for a Waste Warden assessment.
As well as this, we will be using the next few months to promote and expand the re-use services that are available in the town.  We have spent some time preparing a recycling directory which people will be able to look at, by the type of waste they have, and decide on the best way to get rid of that item.  Also, we have helped establish a Real Nappy Laundry Service in the town to help those people with young children minimise their waste at source.
We’re always reviewing the waste types we collect or have facilities to manage and where possible, we will try to add extra materials, like we did for mixed plastics, when markets are available for them.  We’ll be supporting retailers by introducing some batteries recycling at location other than our Household Waste Recycling Centre at Waterside Park.
•   Are there any plans for kerbside food waste collection?
There are not at this time.  We are investigating another route to manage the residual waste that is not currently recycling or composted; however, if a food waste collection became feasible and beneficial for both economic and environmental reasons then it is certainly one of the things we would consider.
One of the key issues for the development of a food waste collection is the additional burden this would add to the revenue budget as specialist vehicles and more containers would be needed.  Also, the closest location we found with capacity for the scale we would need is located in Dorset.  This further offsets some of economic and environmental benefits that a food waste collection would offer.
•   Are there any plans for a 2nd recycling centre for the East / South of the town?
Not at the moment.  This is something that was requested in the consultation on the draft 2002 waste strategy.  It is project that we keep under review.  When the site moved from Barnfield Road to Waterside Park it was provided with additional capacity and dealt with the issue for a short-period.  Further improvements were made to that site by extending the opening hours when wheeled bins were introduced.  This deals with the majority of the problem.  However, what we have found is people still visit the site when it is at its busiest.  We have provided a text-messaging service and a web-cam for people to check queuing at the site so they can arrange to go at a quieter time.  Details of this are available at www.swindon.gov.uk/waste.
We did consider the development of a 2nd site as part of the 2006 Wiltshire and Swindon Minerals and Waste Local Plan.  There was not evidence that it was needed at that time.  We are just consulting on the Site Allocations for the Wiltshire and Swindon Waste Local Development Framework and will use the evidence that this consultation provides to reconsider whether a site is needed now or in the future.
•   What impact has there been on the plastic recycling scheme since switching from the SBC provided plastic collection bags, to any clear / white bags?
We have seen the tonnage of plastics collected increase.  The reason for being able to switch was through national improvements in recycling plastics we were able to collect all types of plastic, except black. We were therefore no longer restricted on the type of plastic bags that were used for collection as we no longer needed to split the bags (the bags we provided were perforated for easy splitting and separating). The whole bag and contents are now recycled.
•   What do the waste wardens do to pro-actively encourage recycling?
As well as the direct work in specific areas, they are available to talk to schools and community groups.  This covers all ages and sectors of the community and they do this in response to an invitation. We also  run roadshows during the summer.  This is usually to inform the public on a new scheme we are introducing but we will be looking at doing some more generic visits to supermarkets and other areas this year.
•   Have we looked into the success of the Windsor voucher reward scheme for residents who recycling?
As an overview, the Windsor reward scheme allows residents to accumulate points for the amount of waste they recycle.  These points can then be turned into vouchers for popular stores.
The scheme works by weighing the contents of the bin.  This requires a ‘chip’ in the bin and weighing equipment on the vehicle.  The Council made a specific decision during the introduction of the wheelie bins that we would not use chips or weighing equipment on the vehicles.  Therefore, this scheme would not work on an individual property basis.  We do monitor the success of schemes operated by other Councils and organisations.  Whilst there are no plans to implement anything in the near future, we will continue to investigate  a suitable scheme..
•   What are we doing to lobby the Government / Potential New Government to do more to tackle excess packaging, this reducing the problem at source?
It’s important to recognise that there is a significant amount of legislation in place to control packaging production, importation and recycling.  However, we are not naive to the fact that this, while of great assistance, still leaves a lot of waste for local authorities to deal with.  The Council has representatives on the National Association of Waste Disposal Officers and Local Authority Recycling Advisory Committee (committees of the Local Government Association), the Chartered Institution of Wastes Management and contributes to work of the Waste and Resources Action Programme.  All of these bodies regularly participate in Government consultations and lobbying activity for the improvement of waste legislation to maximise diversion from landfill, including packaging waste.
Furthermore, Swindon Borough Council is one of only a handful of local authorities that have successfully taken a prosecution against a manufacturer for the excessive packaging of its products.  The Commercial Regulation team have been able to use this example in working with our manufacturers based in the area to ensure that they minimise the environmental impact of their packaging wherever possible.
Richard Shaw
•   Could you please as a local ward Councillor please explain why I have to negotiate the SCS recycling slalom course where I live? After collection I have to drive my car carefully around and through the recycling bins and their lids and items dropped on the road in the process of collection.
This is an important point that we are always trying to resolve.  It is a training issue for the crews and we will enforce it where necessary.  Please report these incidents to us as soon as possible.  You can do this by phoning the contact centre of reporting online.  All we need to know is the street name and we are able to deal with the crew on this round.  We do take this issue very seriously and have dealt with it in many areas but if there are outstanding problems then we need to know the details of them.
•   A fellow ward Councillor of yours has let slip that there will be a saving made to the recycling budget.  Can you confirm this as Chair of that Committee?
There are savings in the recycling budget for 2010/11. These are efficiency savings achieved through being able to deliver the service with fewer lorries and rounds. This has been achieved as the recycling services has bedded in over the last couple of years and we are now able to service more households with each lorry. We have also achieved an improvement on the amount of income we are achieving for our recyclables.
•   Why is there only one recycling centre for a town of 190,000 people and how is it environmentally friendly for cars to queue all over the Waterside Estate.  I have never seen such queues and such long waits since the days of the GDR when it would take up to four hours to cross the border.  This is a serious question and not a joke.  What is your proposal to reduce the waiting and handling time to a maximum of twenty minutes.
Depending on the time of the day visited, queuing times can be much less than 20 minutes and I am not aware of any queuing times anywhere near four hours.   The HWRC is open 7 days a weekend for the majority of times minimal queuing is required. However there are periods of queuing during peak times such as bank holidays and summer weekends. I would encourage users at these times to visit the site later in the day when the volume of cars is much lower.  We are working with our colleagues in the Environmental Enforcement team to minimise abuse of the site by commercial and industrial waste which adds numbers in the queue but also use vans which are taking longer to unload.  This has had a positive effect but we are having to use our resources carefully to best target regular and persistent abusers of the system.
•   As it is local I use the Purton facility run by Hills. They recycle more than SBC for example small batteries, and proudly display that 79% of what come to the site is recycled.
Why does Waterside only achieve 61%? Quite a difference considering the cost in terms of landfill etc.
Is this a case to employ Hills to manage our Waste Management?
The signage at Waterside is incorrect. The site actually diverts 78% of the waste from landfill so a comparable figure.  I have arranged for the sign to be changed.  It is one of those small things that has been overlooked for some time and I apologise for that.
Also, we do recycling all types of batteries on the site, including small household ones.
•   Why does the Council provide just one recycling bin to each address?
It doesn’t.  Two recycling boxes are provided free-of-charge.  Additional bins are available free at the moment but due to abuse of the scheme and residents requesting recycling boxes that are then used for other purposes, we are proposing to re-introduce charging. Residents will still be able to get them free if required following a Waste Warden assessment.
•   Why do the recycling men leave anything not fitting into the recycling bin?
They will only leave items that are larger than the hoppers on the side of the vehicle.  Even if something isn’t in the box, if it small enough, they will take it.  It is important that large cardboard boxes are broken or cut down smaller than the size of the recycling box, even if it is then stacked alongside the box. This is because if large cardboard were put into the paper section of the recycling vehicle it would quickly fill up and still have lots of gaps (the recycling vehicles do not compact) therefore having to make many return journeys to empty just one section which would be uneconomical. 
•   Tetra Packs – If they can do it at Purton how come we can’t do it in Swindon?  A case for out with SCS and give the job to an organisation that does the business.  Mind you I don’t know what we would do with all our very bespoke recycling wagons?
And as listed above why can’t SCS Waterside match Hills recycling figure of 79%?
We provide six sites around the town for collecting Tetra Packs, and other composite beverage cartons, for recycling.
The vehicles we use are industry-standard and similar to those used in Wiltshire and other areas.
As I have covered, the signage is incorrect and the Waterside site is comparable with that of the Purton one.  However, it is important to recognise that the throughput of the Purton site is approximately 25% of that of Waterside with a similar number of staff.  Therefore, we provide very good value-for-money with the operation at Waterside.
•   Why does the Council sort at the kerbside and not at the depot?  Does this not prevent the maximisation of recycling by taking in sub-contract work?
By sorting at the kerbside, we get a cleaner recyclable material that means we will always have a market for it.  This is particularly important, as we have seen in the last 18 months, when industry output is restricted and reprocessors only want good quality material, which we were able to provide.
The added benefit is if residents put out the wrong material, we are able to leave this behind so as not to contaminate the whole load and also inform the resident what is recyclable for future collections.  .
I am unclear as to what question is being asked regarding sub-contract work but if this is referring to taking waste from commercial and industrial premises then Swindon Commercial Services Limited are able to offer a service for these organisations on a similar basis to the domestic collection.
•   Why is the Council still collecting Black Bags from some parts of the town and where is this being carried on?
We collect blue sacks from specific households that can’t have a wheeled bin.  This may be because of access issues or insufficient storage in the design of the property.  There are around 5,000 homes spread around the Borough but principally in the Town Centre.  The number of bags is restricted to an average of two per week.
Any black sacks that are seen to be collected are likely to be part of an enforcement clean-up and action is taken against properties if necessary.
Tea boy
Many of the points raised have been dealt with above.  The issue of fines for landfilling waste is being addressed as part of a Strategy presented to Cabinet on 20 January 2010 as links with the recovery of energy from the waste stream.
Tobes
This is a key focus of the Waste Strategy for England 2007 and one we fully support.
Mart
A number of points raised.  Some of these have been covered above. The two outstanding issues, I believe, are carbon footprint and the idea of a swapshop for boxes and lids.
The carob footprint of the vehicles we use, and the service overall, is something that we are currently evaluating.  Whilst we are clear than the diversion of waste from landfill by any means is a benefit as the carbon impact of landfill is so great, we are always looking to improve this – this is one of the reasons that we seek to make the rounds more efficient and reduce the number of vehicles where possible.  We have considered alternative fuel vehicles but those that have been presented to us are not sufficiently advanced to ensure they meet all of our needs.
The idea of a swapshop is a good one, for all waste items.  Although it would be beneficial, the boxes and / or lids will not have travelled far so it may be that on recycling day you can spot which boxes are missing lids and speak to your neighbours about returning them.
Simon
As mentioned, previously, please contact us to let us know of specific locations.  Spare recycling lids can be provided free-of-charge by contacting the StreetSmart 445501 hotline.
Komandori
This has already been covered above.
Moley
This is a concern that I would appreciate is reported immediately.  I have come across a similar set of circumstances in the past, which was just a misunderstanding, and I hope this is the same.  The only materials that need to be put in a tied plastic bag are the textiles.  This helps keep them clean and suitable for re-use.  None of the other materials should be in bags at all.
We’d ask that plastic sacks aren’t put out in high winds.  If they are, then it is normally possible to jam them between the recycling boxes and the wheelie bin until the collectors have been.
Bobby Bingo
A site was identified as part of the site allocations for the 2006 Waste Local Plan; however, the evidence at the time did not support its inclusion in the Plan.  Also, a site in the east of the Borough would need to be future-proofed for further expansion in that area and Dorcan may not be the most appropriate location.
Kohima
The site in question was reviewed but was not available for waste purposes.
Alex
As above.
Kecl
The life expectancy of wheelie bins was based on an average of 9 years.  We are still using the original stock of 240l bins that were purchased for the 2007 rollout of the scheme.
The old ones can be returned to the manufacturers for recycling.
Andy H
Junk swap days are something that we would like to take forward and we are currently investigating this and how we can support a community action scheme.
Muggins
There are some good examples of how this could work and if it is properly organised that the remaining ‘junk’ is sent for recycling then it will be a benefit overall. We are investigating this further.
Jenny Miles
Many points have already been answered.  Those I see remaining are:
Alternative access to the Waterside Park site
This is an issue of safety.  The site is extremely busy and would not be suitable for non-vehicle access.  If you wished to visit, then it may be possible to arrange a member of staff to meet you at the site.  This is something that we  will  review and a solution put in place.
Plastic waste being sent abroad
The plastic waste is not sent to China.  It is re-processed in the UK at a site in Lincolnshire.  However, it is important to recognise that the industrial supply-demand market is international for recyclables just as it is for all other materials and goods.



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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2010, 01:24:51 PM »
Apologies at the formating of the written answers isn't very clear.  If anyone would like me to email the actual word document just let me know and I will happily send it over.

Thank you all again for helping with my meeting, it was appreciated and I did think it improved the quality of the meeting.

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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2010, 01:54:28 PM »
Much appreciated Justin, thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2010, 07:52:34 PM »
I'll second that. :clap:
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 07:57:22 PM »
Yes, thanks where thanks is due.

I think I've broke a tooth though. Grinding.

Here's a thing for recycling vehicles, I thought of it half in jest, but it's growing on me.

Horse and cart.

Don't laugh, well not straight away, have a think, it'd be lovely. I bet it would generate enthusiasm.

I belive the modern parlance is added value.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2010, 10:01:42 AM »
Yes, thanks where thanks is due.

I think I've broke a tooth though. Grinding.

Here's a thing for recycling vehicles, I thought of it half in jest, but it's growing on me.

Horse and cart.

Don't laugh, well not straight away, have a think, it'd be lovely. I bet it would generate enthusiasm.

I belive the modern parlance is added value.


I saw a Rag and Bone man in Stratton the other month.  His cart was full!!

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Re: Council Meeting - Talk Swindon Q & A
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2010, 10:48:58 AM »
Andy H
Junk swap days are something that we would like to take forward and we are currently investigating this and how we can support a community action scheme.

To start the ball rolling why don’t the borough organise a few at the closed park and ride sites on a Sunday. Community engagement officers could also be in attendance to promote and support people who want to organise regular “Junk Swap” days in their local areas.

Muggins
There are some good examples of how this could work and if it is properly organised that the remaining ‘junk’ is sent for recycling then it will be a benefit overall. We are investigating this further.

I believe Muggins went on to question why Swindon council doesn’t promote a reclamation yard
 
Andy, some of the things left over at the end of Junk days , is not junk, just that no one wanted it that particular day, so it needs something else afterwards.
I could never understand why the borough does not have it's own reclaimation yard.

Could this not become an extension of the skills development within the enterprise works? Restoration and refurbishment etc?

Jenny Miles
Many points have already been answered.  Those I see remaining are:
Alternative access to the Waterside Park site
This is an issue of safety.  The site is extremely busy and would not be suitable for non-vehicle access.  If you wished to visit, then it may be possible to arrange a member of staff to meet you at the site.  This is something that we will review and a solution put in place.

Whilst safety may well be an issue it is not that difficult to overcome. In the meantime surely a small area where residents bringing recycled items on foot could be set aside, the items later being sorted by the recycling team during the quiet periods.

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Re: Council Meeting - Talk Swindon Q & A
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2010, 11:26:42 AM »
justin i think that it is admirable taking our questions to scrutiny are you as enthusiastic about taking all the wifi questions of ts to council on February 22nd and asking them

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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2010, 08:20:16 PM »
Written answers from Richard Fisher, Recycling Officer...  :coffee:


•   Are there any plans for a 2nd recycling centre for the East / South of the town?
Not at the moment.  This is something that was requested in the consultation on the draft 2002 waste strategy.  It is project that we keep under review.  When the site moved from Barnfield Road to Waterside Park it was provided with additional capacity and dealt with the issue for a short-period.  Further improvements were made to that site by extending the opening hours when wheeled bins were introduced.  This deals with the majority of the problem.  However, what we have found is people still visit the site when it is at its busiest.  We have provided a text-messaging service and a web-cam for people to check queuing at the site so they can arrange to go at a quieter time.  Details of this are available at www.swindon.gov.uk/waste.



But aren't the 'additional opening hours' being cut as part of the 2010 budget.  Justin can we trust you to challenge this proposal when the budget proposals go to scrutiny?

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2010, 08:39:54 PM »
However, what we have found is people still visit the site when it is at its busiest.  

Yet it is strangely quiet at 03:00 of a Sunday morning.

For flip's sake, get a bloody grip, so it's peoples' fault for wanting to throw rubbish away recycle when they are not at work and it is convenient. Must have come as a bleedin surprise after the usual extensive consultation and fact finding. I can only apologise for my inability to recycle by stuffing a defunct iron down a webcam, or my incompehensible failure to text a mattress to the recycling site.

SBfeckingC has taken on the Brussels remit, now feckin cater for the demand you stimulated.

People turn up when it's busiest, dear gawd.

By the by, you don't keep something under 'review' for 8 years, what that means is 'I have done sweet bugger all about if for 8 years'.

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2010, 08:44:36 PM »
I went to the tip on friday last at about 9.20 and left at 9.40, there were 4 cars on the tip along with mine and two vans, I did take issue withthem as the last time I went with my brother in his van, to dump an old greenhouse, we got the are you a commercial tipper if so please leave treatment, but these two were working away with no constraints.. :tickedoff:

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Re: Council Meeting - Talk Swindon Q & A
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2010, 09:14:58 PM »
Written answers from Richard Fisher, Recycling Officer...  :coffee:


•   Are there any plans for a 2nd recycling centre for the East / South of the town?
Not at the moment.  This is something that was requested in the consultation on the draft 2002 waste strategy.  It is project that we keep under review.  When the site moved from Barnfield Road to Waterside Park it was provided with additional capacity and dealt with the issue for a short-period.  Further improvements were made to that site by extending the opening hours when wheeled bins were introduced.  This deals with the majority of the problem.  However, what we have found is people still visit the site when it is at its busiest.  We have provided a text-messaging service and a web-cam for people to check queuing at the site so they can arrange to go at a quieter time.  Details of this are available at www.swindon.gov.uk/waste.



But aren't the 'additional opening hours' being cut as part of the 2010 budget.  Justin can we trust you to challenge this proposal when the budget proposals go to scrutiny?

This i feel is the question i raised.


Come on justin get us an answer.
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