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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2010, 09:31:15 PM »
I was only out on Saturday (admittedly in Freshbrook and Grange Park) but have canvassed the whole of Shaw and Nine Elms in the past 4 years. One of the problems we face is that people are rarely in or do not answer their doors and the calling cards we leave invariably get disposed of by a member of the household.
On one close this Saturday we found 2 people in out of 12 houses.

I have lived in the Freshbrook & Grange Park ward for just over 10 years now. In that time I have had just one canvasser knock on my door whilst I was at home. That was about 8 years ago and was a tory canvasser who appeared to be under the impression that the previous owner but one still lived at my address.

I have no idea how many canvassers may have come knocking whilst I was at work, or out trying to change the world, or just out enjoying myself. They never leave me anything to say they'd knocked on my door (election leaflets don't count, they just tell me that someone put a leaflet through my letterbox).

The Kleenezee people and some of the organisations who put plastic bags through my door in the hope that I'll fill them full of resaleable goodies are better at telling me they've been round, and some of them even tell me when they're going to come back.

If I wasn't already politically engaged and actively reading the content on sites like TS then come election day I'd be none the wiser as to which of the names on the ballot paper I'd want to put a cross beside.
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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2010, 09:39:36 PM »
We only ever get the Tories round our close..

Any visits we've had have always been exactly when we've been doing something to deal with small children that has not given  me the chance for argument or complaint...

(Keith - think you called at our house a couple of years ago and were surprised that someone in the close wasn't planning to vote Conservative!)

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2010, 10:41:12 PM »
Fair do's for Dave Wood although I have only met him once I do get a In touch newsletter through my door every 3 or 4 month.

I do see Annie in Old Town  but not had the honour of an audience with her yet.


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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2010, 10:45:29 PM »
Keith, I imagine you're not alone in this, however it's hardly surprising that many people may be out on a Saturday, assuming they work during the week, this will be a time when they have limited ability to do their shopping or go out with their family etc.

What other times/days of the week do you usually canvass?  I know it's hard work, but if you want to reach all of the people, or at least as many as possible, then you need to be very flexibile on what time you try to call.  I would have thought early evenings on all days would be a good time  :)

Dave Wood has summed it up pretty well. The difficulty with calling before 6pm midweek is that people tend to be at work or traveling back home, the problem with calling after 6pm is that until the end of March it is dark/dusk and people don't like answering their door. Most Council meetings are also held from 6pm until 8-9pm or later which can take out another 2 or 3 evenings some weeks.
People are generally out on Saturday mornings so late afternoon tends to be the best time in West Swindon, avoiding major football / rugby matches etc... Sundays are also generally acceptable in West Swindon.

Coupled with running a chess club at the local school and having two young children a balance has to be struck somewhere.

If you do live in the Shaw and Nine Elms area and are keen to sound me out in advance of the May elections then please get in touch to arrange a convenient time.

Moley - I'm happy for people to raise their concerns and objections, I find it helps me maintain balance and a broader perspective rather than blindly following prescribed political dogma.

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2010, 10:53:44 PM »
Newsnight row over Doners ;D paying tax does Lord Ashcroft canvas?  I am :-\ even after the row. Does anyone know?

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2010, 11:03:25 PM »

Moley - I'm happy for people to raise their concerns and objections, I find it helps me maintain balance and a broader perspective rather than blindly following prescribed political dogma.

My funniest electioneering argument was a long one with Chris Patten's election agent about whether she or I knew more people in Northern Ireland before the election he lost in Bath (92?).

I'd have thought my accent might have been a hint....

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #46 on: February 09, 2010, 02:34:44 AM »



Quote from: Keith
If you do live in the Shaw and Nine Elms area and are keen to sound me out in advance of the May elections then please get in touch to arrange a convenient time.

I don't live in Shaw and 9 Elms but I am keen to sound you out about whether you would vote for Rod Bluh again this May as leader of the council & group?

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #47 on: February 09, 2010, 10:56:07 AM »



Quote from: Keith
If you do live in the Shaw and Nine Elms area and are keen to sound me out in advance of the May elections then please get in touch to arrange a convenient time.

I don't live in Shaw and 9 Elms but I am keen to sound you out about whether you would vote for Rod Bluh again this May as leader of the council & group?


please keith will you answer the question and  tell us who you will vote for at the leadership election as the tories wiill still have power?

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2010, 11:44:02 AM »
It has got to be Nick Martin for leader. Yes I know he engages his mouth before his brain SOMETIMES but he tells it as it is. Open, honest and straight is our Nick and he is retired so would be able to devote himself to the mamoth task facing the current gang of four!
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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2010, 04:31:31 PM »
Nooooooo, agh Nooooo
Oi! Listen mush. Old eyes, remember? I’ve been around the block a few times. More than a few. They’ve knocked down the blocks I’ve been around and rebuilt them as bigger blocks. Super blocks. And I’ve been round them as well.  The Doctor (Night Terrors)

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #50 on: February 09, 2010, 09:29:07 PM »
I think Busta's moment draws near.

He would be genuinely happy to be paid in peanuts.

http://www.monkeyworld.org/meet-our-primates/paddys-chimpanzees.htm

I think it would be an interesting social experiment and we have a diminishing amount to lose. We'd simply have to decipher his approval and disapproval signals. I think when he rips your arm off and beats you to death with the soggy end is a negatory, extended session of swinging on his innertube means yes. What could be simpler?

There is a selection of other candidates available on the site.
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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #51 on: February 10, 2010, 08:23:16 PM »
If there is a problem with going around the doors and getting an answer, wouldnt the best bet to be a weekly\monthly meeting with voters and then you can tell them\ask questions on how you feel, and this way, those who are interested would go and not sit behind the closed doors ::)..

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #52 on: February 10, 2010, 09:12:17 PM »
If there is a problem with going around the doors and getting an answer, wouldnt the best bet to be a weekly\monthly meeting with voters and then you can tell them\ask questions on how you feel, and this way, those who are interested would go and not sit behind the closed doors ::)..

On my patch (as in a lot of areas) they residents have their own monthly meetings.  They require my presence and pummell me for detailed answers.  It fulfils a very important need, although the vast majority of people shy away from such organised settings.

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #53 on: February 10, 2010, 09:21:56 PM »
If there is a problem with going around the doors and getting an answer, wouldnt the best bet to be a weekly\monthly meeting with voters and then you can tell them\ask questions on how you feel, and this way, those who are interested would go and not sit behind the closed doors ::)..

We do have this in the shape of the West Swindon Cluster Forum held at the Link Centre. Numbers vary but are often no more than a dozen, so if you live in West Swindon come along on the second Monday of the month as nobody has ever not been able to raise their question. Next events will be in March, May and July.

I also attend monthly Shaw Residents' Association meetings at Shaw Village Centre (first Monday of the month).

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #54 on: February 10, 2010, 09:26:31 PM »



Quote from: Keith
If you do live in the Shaw and Nine Elms area and are keen to sound me out in advance of the May elections then please get in touch to arrange a convenient time.

I don't live in Shaw and 9 Elms but I am keen to sound you out about whether you would vote for Rod Bluh again this May as leader of the council & group?


please keith will you answer the question and  tell us who you will vote for at the leadership election as the tories wiill still have power?

It is jumping the gun a little as we are only 3/4 of the way through the municipal year and the nomination process is a long way off yet. If you canvassed all the Councillors and asked them who was willing to stand as leader at least you would then have a shortlist.
I'll start you off by saying that I won't be.

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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #55 on: February 10, 2010, 10:14:21 PM »
 Is it jumping the gun? Perhaps it is from the perspective of a cabinet member,  from my perspective Rod Bluh is nearly at the end of his elected term and the damage he has done to the town, and to local democracy, is immense.

I think the question 'will you vote for him again?' Is valid, unless you're content with Rod's record so far?

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« Reply #56 on: February 10, 2010, 10:18:32 PM »
If Rod ain't thinking about it, we won't.

S'fair innit?

I bet he is well into legacy mode.

A browny blue blair so he is.
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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2010, 08:36:24 AM »
Thanks for your answers Mr Tomlinson however they are very vague and non descript and as for the last question I was asking you to comment on why you were not there not Mr Wills.

Mr Reid, Neeeer - I have no idea what the meaning is, as I was getting frustrated with my phone it was the noise I made ....maybe neeeering can be described as the noise politicians make when they are faced with questions they do not like.
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« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2010, 08:39:21 AM »
Thanks for your answers Mr Tomlinson however they are very vague and non descript and as for the last question I was asking you to comment on why you were not there not Mr Wills.

Mr Reid, Neeeer - I have no idea what the meaning is, as I was getting frustrated with my phone it was the noise I made ....maybe neeeering can be described as the noise politicians make when they are faced with questions they do not like.
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Re: Tadpole Farm & Cllr Tomlinson (Formerly Known As 'Neeer')
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2010, 09:04:37 AM »
Mellon - sorry you think they are vague and non descript, I disagree, I have summed up the situation as it stands and what I would like to think.  Until they actually come forward with actual plans I can't be any more specific and there isn't anything specific to comment on.

For the RSS meeting because I was not the representative for that role.