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Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« on: May 10, 2007, 07:40:54 PM »
I see Tony Blair is going to resign on the 27th June. About 13 years too late in my humble opinion.

Maybe it's time for a quick review of some of his achievements.

Before becoming PM, he betrayed the traditional support base of the Labour party, abandoning socialist principles and instead adopting the sort of private enterprise free market fundamentalism which was previously the preserve of the Tories. It may have won the Labour party enough new middle-class supporters to put them in government, but the damage that move alone has done to politics in this country is immeasurable, putting the two main parties so close together that there's very little to chose between them.

Once getting into government, he utterly failed to reverse many of the worst excesses of the previous Tory government, indeed taking many of their policies even further, leaving us with hospitals that we'll still be paying through the nose for in 25 years time, and dubious unaccountable "academies" run by anyone willing to shell out a couple of million quid. Public services are still being run as a way to line the pockets of shareholders and directors, and the element of "public service" seems to have been lost somewhere along the line.

The Labour party under Blair's rule has become fundamentally undemocratic. Policy is dictated from on high, and with few a honourable exceptions is blindly supported by unquestioning sycophants like Swindon's own Anne Snelgrove MP, regardless of their constituents' views.

Party conferences are now merely an opportunity for the faithful to cheer on the great and the good, with any attempts to influence party policy from the grassroots being dismissed as out of order.

And was it really necessary to use police powers under one of the myriad terrorism acts to prevent Walter Wolfgang from re-entering the conference after being ejected for hecking?. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

And then there's the continuous and ongoing erosion of our civil liberties. We can no longer hold a demonstration within half a mile of Parliament without first seeking permission from the police, thanks to a law passed specifically to remove the embarassment of Brian Haw's peace camp from outside Tony's workplace.

In 2003, during the bombing campaign which marked the start the illegal adventure in Iraq (which according to the Independent will be Blair's lasting legacy), "terrorism" legislation was used to harrass and disrupt legitimate and peaceful protest around the RAF Fairford, from where the B52s took off with their weapons of mass destruction.

But surely Blair's greatest achievement must be the way in which he has united people of all political stripes, from anarchists to true-blue Tories, under the No2ID banner in opposition to the Identity Cards Act 2006 and the National Identity Register.

I'm sure other forum members will be able to add to this list of his achievements, but in the mean time Mr Blair, consider yourself placed in Room 101. Until your journey to the Hague to answer charges of war crimes, anyway.


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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 10:11:54 PM »
Top post Simon!

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2007, 10:14:07 AM »

Simon has illustrated bliars legacy perfectly.

George Galloway delivered a similarly impressive appraisal of Bliar to Sky TV from College Green yesterday.

When I get 5 minutes I'll add the video.

I watched Bliars speech, and couldn't help but wonder whether Hitler would've delivered a similar one...and then go on the lecture circuit.

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2007, 07:56:39 AM »
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Once getting into government, he utterly failed to reverse many of the worst excesses of the previous Tory government, indeed taking many of their policies even further, leaving us with hospitals that we'll still be paying through the nose for in 25 years time, and dubious unaccountable "academies" run by anyone willing to shell out a couple of million quid. Public services are still being run as a way to line the pockets of shareholders and directors, and the element of "public service" seems to have been lost somewhere along the line.
Sadly all I can say is that your "wicked tories" drivel only gives excuses to Blair's excess, a bit like hostages create a bond with their captors and victims of abuse sometimes make excuses for their abuser's actions. Blair did this no one else but Blair Blair Blair, it is his deceitful legacy that will be remembered long after the "wicked tories drivel" is forgotten, unless he begins to fabricate a "I was a victim too" one with the assistance of views like those of the pair of you. :fence1: But and there always is; apart from the "wicked Tories" bit it was a good post Simon and Tobes was right
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PS Geoff The link between Hitler and Blair that you are wondering about is just not PC at worst and tenuous at best :police:
Blair is more Stalinist!! ;)
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2007, 11:54:24 AM »
Tobes Simon
Blair did this no one else but Blair Blair Blair ...

Totally without the collusion and/or support of other politicians and parties, not to mention millions of the electorate???

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2007, 01:51:56 PM »
Totally without the collusion and/or support of other politicians and parties, not to mention millions of the electorate???

Completely correct of course.

I'm happy to report that my conscience is completely of any collusion in my capacity as a voter  :angel:

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2007, 10:50:41 PM »
Oi, Gladiatorial type - get your gladius out of your posterious - chiil out on the tory bashing fixation. I happen to be a shade of blue rather than of red. But my support does not preclude strong criticism on ocassion. If a few more politicos were prepared to criticise their own parties, the state of British politics would not be in its current state. Simon's quote about there being barely a fag paper's worth of policy difference in quite a few areas is an unfortunate truth. He and I might be coming at it from different perspectives, but on that we agree!

I criticise Blairs following of Tory policy because of it's poltical opportunism - and the fact that his chancellor stated at the very beginning (conveniently forgotten by current Labour appologists) that it was his open and stated aim to continue Tory ecconomic policy.

As for the rest of Simons post, it summarises very clearly for me why Blair has been such a malignant influence upon the last 10 years.
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2007, 10:03:54 AM »
Minimum wage.

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2007, 12:03:09 PM »
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I accept that occaisonally I just want a fight and will pick one even if I am the only one in the room. I think that to criticise the party line is not Heresy and more of that will happen during the next 18months for Davey Ravy. What I find diffcult to understand is that all the attention focussed on Blair's departure at the moment is allowing Gordon to sail through without much scrutiny of him and his policies.

Alex Salmond has more fellow scots supporting him than Brown does and therefore Brown does not even have a mandate in his own country, let alone the rest of the UK. BRown may well have folowed Tory economic policy which not many tories agreed with Clark over and as Tory policy was rejected in the 1997 election Brown Baffled evryones brains with Brownshit bullshit.

The Tories despised Clark and his economic policy the rose tint in peoples spectacles appear to be very opaque now.
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2007, 01:15:37 PM »
Independent Bank of England

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2007, 09:27:10 AM »
Minimum wage.

...and the rise of imported labour gangs

Independent Bank of England


.....is it independant?, really independant?.

The ability to set B.O.E interest rates was passed from the treasury to a 9 person committee at the B.O.E.

Ask yourself who appoints the committee members ?  :popcorn:

 

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2007, 04:47:06 PM »
Tony Blair room 101 whatever next Geoff? What will we do when all this Blair Baiting is over? Lets be honest about it he has been good sport and a bit of Blair baiting and in some cases Blair Bitching, cleanses the soul.

I think this link depicts him allegedly making an obscene gesture. His gesture appears quite clearly to demonstrate what some people might think he is; I couldn't possibly comment.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23387466-details/Young+Blair's+obscene+gesture/article.do
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2007, 05:37:06 PM »
Well i clicked on the link, and the picture says it all really doesnt it!! lol
It just depicts what so many of us are thinking.
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2007, 07:03:32 PM »


Well i clicked on the link, and the picture says it all really doesnt it!! lol
It just depicts what so many of us are thinking.


Very true now I suspect Pandora*...... but I wonder if he was portraying his self image in mime ?

Lets have another look  :)


I remember the 'Things can only get better' tune by D.Ream being adopted by the Labour party prior to the '97 general election.

Every bit as true today as it was 10 years ago.....


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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2007, 07:20:03 PM »
Tony Blair room 101 whatever next Geoff? What will we do when all this Blair Baiting is over?

Oh Petunia... a rhetorical question surely?
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2007, 11:06:09 PM »


Well i clicked on the link, and the picture says it all really doesnt it!! lol
It just depicts what so many of us are thinking.


Very true now I suspect Pandora*...... but I wonder if he was portraying his self image in mime ?

Lets have another look  :)


I remember the 'Things can only get better' tune by D.Ream being adopted by the Labour party prior to the '97 general election.

Every bit as true today as it was 10 years ago.....


Welcome to TS btw  :)



Thank you for welcoming me.
Its a good job the tune adopted by the Labour party wasn't 'The Only Way Is Up' lol............I'll say no more!
I did look at the pic again lol ...... Puts a whole new dimension on 'self expression' lol ooops  :angel:
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2007, 11:17:20 PM »

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I did look at the pic again lol ...... Puts a whole new dimension on 'self expression' lol ooops

Hahaha, yes... there's also hundreds of double entendrés that photo could successfully pull off as captions... oops, there's one straight away.

Here's one just to get the ball rolling.


" Tony Blair once worked at a Bernard Mathews turkey farm, where his co-workers bizarrely nick named him the 'chicken choker'



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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2007, 11:21:06 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

and at Festes I am told his nickname was 'Shirley'

or so his housemaster was reputed to have said.  Most appropriate methinks!!

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2007, 06:46:04 AM »
Hi Pandora
Pleased to see you finally opened the box and jumped in to Talk Swindon,  I don't know, but it's been suggested for some reason Tony  was called "Flashman" at Oxford the mind boggles at what he may have been flogging?  :-\

it's not that Tony is a bastard
it's not that Tony is thick
it's just that Tony has been photographed
miming how one plays with one's dick
he may have thought he was a Fetes pranker
but we all know he is just a F*@kin wanker

ZPW is this rhetorical?



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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2007, 09:05:59 AM »
Dear Petunia, I am a little abashed by your request for English Lessons; I don't think I'm best qualified - but I don't want to be churlish.

No, what you write is not rhetorical, rather ; crass, unfined, witless and a little boorish. We`had become attuned to the rapier wit of your keyboard - I suspect you've been taken over by a right-wing suburbanite. Best add bran to your muesl,get out a bit more, read a decent novel per week, and take some climbing lessons.
If you don't have time for all of that, concentrate on the climbing

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2007, 08:29:54 PM »
ZPW
Thank you for your advice, I will heed it well, on my Journey. I am shipping out to a new frontier I will be away for a longtime.. Take care I will miss the  :fence1:ing  with you all. I have enjoyed being a gladiator, but the time has now come to sign off from TS, one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

I will miss you all as I trudge off to Gaul. It has been good fun for me but then being selfish was a new experience for me too.

Actually I am really spartacus! remember that great final scene from the movie Spartacus, where everyone stands up and shouts I am Spartacus. ( I am not really Spartacus either) As they say when in Rome!!! Da-svi-da-niya
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« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2007, 08:43:52 PM »
Bonus teres adversarius.

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« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2007, 08:57:44 PM »
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Once getting into government, he utterly failed to reverse many of the worst excesses of the previous Tory government, indeed taking many of their policies even further, leaving us with hospitals that we'll still be paying through the nose for in 25 years time, and dubious unaccountable "academies" run by anyone willing to shell out a couple of million quid. Public services are still being run as a way to line the pockets of shareholders and directors, and the element of "public service" seems to have been lost somewhere along the line.
Sadly all I can say is that your "wicked tories" drivel only gives excuses to Blair's excess, a bit like hostages create a bond with their captors and victims of abuse sometimes make excuses for their abuser's actions. Blair did this no one else but Blair Blair Blair, it is his deceitful legacy that will be remembered long after the "wicked tories drivel" is forgotten, unless he begins to fabricate a "I was a victim too" one with the assistance of views like those of the pair of you. :fence1: But and there always is; apart from the "wicked Tories" bit it was a good post Simon and Tobes was right
Top post  Simon O0
PS Geoff The link between Hitler and Blair that you are wondering about is just not PC at worst and tenuous at best :police:
Blair is more Stalinist!! ;)

I agree with you Petronius  :angel:
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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2007, 09:02:54 PM »
ZPW
Thank you for your advice, I will heed it well, on my Journey. I am shipping out to a new frontier I will be away for a longtime.. Take care I will miss the  :fence1:ing  with you all. I have enjoyed being a gladiator, but the time has now come to sign off from TS, one of the hardest things I have ever had to do.

I will miss you all as I trudge off to Gaul. It has been good fun for me but then being selfish was a new experience for me too.

Actually I am really spartacus! remember that great final scene from the movie Spartacus, where everyone stands up and shouts I am Spartacus. ( I am not really Spartacus either) As they say when in Rome!!! Da-svi-da-niya

Hey Gladiator
Dont go...!
I love the fencing. you make good reading.

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Re: Can I put Tony Blair in Room 101 please?
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2007, 09:13:30 PM »
Don't just put him in room 101 - please remove him from the planet.

Nothing he has done has been good - he has lied, his cabinet have lied, we have been screwed through taxation and his government has had more sleeze than a bad Ron Jeremy movie !

I long for the days when the Labour government is no more - anyone would be better than this.

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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2007, 09:59:21 PM »


Hey Gladiator
Dont go...!


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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2007, 10:11:00 PM »

I long for the days when the Labour government is no more - anyone would be better than this.

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