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Offline wayo

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Re: Council tax..
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2017, 08:10:52 PM »
With the rising cost of adult social care, we have to choose between more cuts or increased tax.

In my opinion, the increase in council tax is overdue and better than cuts on top of cuts. I would have preferred it if SBC raised the extra tax themselves without outsourcing to parishes, but overall raising tax is a better option than cutting more services.

You have had an above inflation council tax rise of 5% and a new social care precept. This is about a 10 parish precept ON TOP of all this.

Many councils haven't even adopted a social care precept. It is well known that most of the CT rises in the past 10 years have gone on council pensions for which employees pay peppercorn contributions. Then there is the WiFi, the concerts and now a museum. The council doesn't know what to waste our money on next.

The other thing about these parishes is that they are going to cost hundreds of thousands of pounds a year in admin. In other words the same services cost more because you have another body, more meetings, more bureaucracy. No other council has gone down this road so clearly Swindon is badly run.

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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2017, 08:03:33 AM »
Politicians at all levels need to start being honest and not populist.  Since WW2 we've pretty much been told that not only can we have out cake and eat it, it'll have a cherry and icing on top.

Last week they were talking about how under-30s (I think) won't retire until they're 70 at least, looks I'm going to have work an extra year.  A large part of that is to pay for state pensions, publicly funded pensions and private pensions that require me to be an active consumer, as well as social care.

The social mobility commission are saying home ownership for 25-29 yr olds has fallen form 63% in 1990 to 31%, so the prudent will be having fewer kids, but the feckless will carry on reproducing.

We have some very very tough decisions to make and have to have an honest debate. If this is done badly someone will come along and turn our under-30's against older generations (the way Farge and chums turned the UK against the EU).

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« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2017, 09:03:52 AM »
With the rising cost of adult social care, we have to choose between more cuts or increased tax.

In my opinion, the increase in council tax is overdue and better than cuts on top of cuts. I would have preferred it if SBC raised the extra tax themselves without outsourcing to parishes, but overall raising tax is a better option than cutting more services.

You have had an above inflation council tax rise of 5% and a new social care precept. This is about a 10 parish precept ON TOP of all this.

Many councils haven't even adopted a social care precept. It is well known that most of the CT rises in the past 10 years have gone on council pensions for which employees pay peppercorn contributions. Then there is the WiFi, the concerts and now a museum. The council doesn't know what to waste our money on next.

The other thing about these parishes is that they are going to cost hundreds of thousands of pounds a year in admin. In other words the same services cost more because you have another body, more meetings, more bureaucracy. No other council has gone down this road so clearly Swindon is badly run.

Under Labour, we had above inflation council tax rises every year. The Tories made a big deal about this and gave us below inflation rises for about 10 years. This was clearly unsustainable and now we are getting a big rise.

I agree that our council is badly run, but what can we do about it? The council was also badly run under Labour and they were shy about taxing us more. As taxpayers we don't have much choice, because we are facing council tax rises under either a Tory or a Labour council.

Our only choice is pay more tax and moan about it or pay more tax and get on with it,



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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2017, 09:12:04 AM »
As well as the scandal of having to take on the toilets in chapel street, because the labour councillors on the new shadow parish of north Swindon, have just rolled over and are going to pay around £8000 to get this place up to a decent standard, we also have them paying £400k a year  for bin collections, what part of the parish does that come, that once again this is surely a borough responsibility, and should be done and financed by the borough council, who, if they were not up to their necks in debt, they might just do it.. :wakeup:

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« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2017, 05:35:59 PM »
Its getting nearer, to stop that direct debit and pay on the day, and when you take part in the parish elections in May, instead of ticking for joe public, write on you paper the following:
Boycotted due to party politics present in and the illegal imposition of parishes.. :2funny:

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« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2017, 11:21:42 PM »
Its getting nearer, to stop that direct debit and pay on the day, and when you take part in the parish elections in May, instead of ticking for joe public, write on you paper the following:
Boycotted due to party politics present in and the illegal imposition of parishes.. :2funny:

So Central Swindon South Parish budget has been published.

£670k Contribution to Finances from the £2m precept. Was that in the consultation?

Who will be standing for the Parish on a ticket to seek by all means its own abolition and failing that to accept no transfer of assets from the Rotten Borough? If Swindon won't empty the bins, they can plate them over and sweep the debris themselves.

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2017, 09:21:32 AM »
In this age of democracy, do they even say, what this amount is for, or is it just another loophole the council have found, to feed their greed???? :WTF:

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« Reply #27 on: April 26, 2017, 08:24:52 PM »
If you want to stop the parish council putting up their precept payment next year, go to this site and sign the gov petition and hope it gets enough support:
http/Petition.parliament.uk/petitions/191502   :clap:

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« Reply #28 on: May 01, 2017, 02:33:39 PM »
Some interesting developments.

Firstly Labour replied to say although they are pushing back on some of the transfer of service provision they have gone in high on the precept because it may get capped later and we are at the 'bare bones' already. Pah!

The Liberal Democrats are campaigning to cut the precept in the Monster Parish and to try and break away their Liberal statelet of Eascott into its own Parish. Not sure how realistic that is.

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« Reply #29 on: May 01, 2017, 05:37:54 PM »
If you want to stop the parish council putting up their precept payment next year, go to this site and sign the gov petition and hope it gets enough support:
http/Petition.parliament.uk/petitions/191502   :clap:

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