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Offline Phil Chitty

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Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« on: July 23, 2015, 11:18:32 AM »
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/13492781.Residents_angry_as_order_banning_HGVs_set_to_expire/

“I’m absolutely fuming,” said 47-year-old Debbie Fitchett, who was part of the campaign to bring the TRO into effect. “We have been fighting for this for more than 12 years.

“He put it all over his election leaflets and in his campaign, which we didn’t mind but many people would have voted for him because of it, and now he’s putting it on Kingsfisher Drive instead.


If Ms Fitchetts comments are true, then he is not the Messiah, just a very naughty boy.



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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2015, 03:32:13 PM »
I've never quite understood what the problem is with the residents of Merlin Way, other than wanting the through road that they live on in their 70's detached houses to be a nice cul-de-sac, rather than a main road from Swindon and the A419 into Wanborough. It's clearly a road that was purpose-built in the 1970's (or maybe late 60's) to handle a fair bit of traffic, it's quite wide (I wouldn't be surprised if it's wider than Oxford Road which is an A-road) and I'm certain it used to have a 40mph speed limit.

If they lived on a narrow road built before the widespread use of the car started in the 1950's I'd have quite a lot of sympathy. However, the few houses there actually are on Merlin Way (probably about 30 on a long road) weren't and they are actually built away from the main road.

Unsuprisingly from the photo in the Adver it looks like people who've probably bought in the last 15 years knowing full well what the traffic situation was.  What they might not have known about is the Eastern Villages plan, perhaps that's why they want the restriction but I suspect as with many Swindonians they are blissfully unaware of what is going on. The thing is Heenan and the council know that once building work starts on the Eastern Villages development HGVs will need to use Merlin Way and Wanborough Road to access some of the building sites.  So the temporary ban was little more than an electoral bribe in my opinion to keep a few people voting Tory.

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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2015, 10:26:57 AM »
looking at his eyes, I d say something was on fire,,,,,,,,,

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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 10:14:32 AM »
I spent the eight weeks before the election working the ward with Steve Wakefield and could not believe what a mess it was in!!

I witnessed Steve starting to get all sorts of things done to start to correct matters, cleared pathways, swept cul de sacs and graffiti removed.  I wonder how much was done, if anything, following the election?

Well the good people of Covingham and Nythe made their choice by a mere 1400 odd votes in Councillor Dale's favour and now they must live with that decision. 

I wonder how much different it would have been had there Not been a General Election on the same day, because I did not at any time see that result coming.

We got the Government and the Council we deserve!
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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 05:25:28 PM »
We got the Government and the Council we deserve!

True, but we weren't exactly spoilt for choice.

I can't help thinking that the current labour leadership shambles demonstrates that the party wasn't fit to run the country. The potential party leaders don't seem to know whether to go left or right and seem to more interested in saying what they think people want to hear rather than what they actually believe in. With the exception of Corbyn they seem to be career politicians chasing a promotion. Many people have suggested that if Corbyn takes labour to the left they couldn't win an election, but it is possible that the voting public will prefer his more genuine approach to the less sincere alternatives.

At a local level, I have heard a lot of good things about Steve Wakefield and less good things about Dale Heenan, although to be fair it is harder to be popular when you are the incumbent making difficult decisions as opposed to the wannabe making unrealistic promises.

Working hard and getting things done in your own ward is different to running the council. SBC didn't go out and employ any new staff, so Steve Wakefield shouting loudest might have got things done in Covingham but it would have been at the expense of elsewhere. Good for his ward, but again much harder to do if you are part of the cabinet representing the whole borough.

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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 11:20:20 PM »
Sorry I duplicated, got over excited - dangerous at my time of life!!
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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 11:22:22 PM »
True, but we weren't exactly spoilt for choice.

No we weren't and you only have to look at Labour now, where are they in Swindon or rather who are they?

I supported Steve Wakefield because he got things done, some of his ex colleagues were too friendly with the Conservatives and that is the reason why there is so much support for local boy Corbyn!
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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 01:39:00 PM »
Many people have suggested that if Corbyn takes labour to the left they couldn't win an election, but it is possible that the voting public will prefer his more genuine approach to the less sincere alternatives.


Most definitely not Spunky. You only have to look at 1983 - Thatchers Government at it's most unpopular trounced Michael Foot.
If we want a Conservative Government lets elect Corbyn. The far left is simply NOT electable.

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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 04:35:49 PM »
Many people have suggested that if Corbyn takes labour to the left they couldn't win an election, but it is possible that the voting public will prefer his more genuine approach to the less sincere alternatives.


Most definitely not Spunky. You only have to look at 1983 - Thatchers Government at it's most unpopular trounced Michael Foot.
If we want a Conservative Government lets elect Corbyn. The far left is simply NOT electable.

Would Thatcher have won if there hadn't been a Falklands War?

I know one long retired soldier (and devout Conservative) who swears blind that that war was engineered to make sure Labour wouldn't win the following election and destroy the country.

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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2015, 06:13:13 PM »
There is truth that the war helped G, But the thing that made the war more relevant was Foote standing on a unilateral disarmament plan.

That is also in Corbyn's manifesto.

As to the war being engineered I doubt that, the Argies just misjudged our will and ability to dislodge them given the defence cuts.

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Re: Are Dale Heenans "pants on fire?"
« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2015, 08:02:13 PM »
Phil - beware.

You and I are of a certain age, and age of which we can remember both the cold ward and its historical context. As we see the last of the first hand witnesses of the war dropping off the peg, perceptions are changing.

I for one am diametrically opposed to the utter niavety of unilateral disarmament - especially in an age of Putin and worldwide nuclear proliferation - but don't imagine for a minute that there isn't a new generation of hopeless dreamers who put the lessons of history and human nature to one side. Frankly you'd be amazed at the numbers of people who think that unilateralism is viable...  :(
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