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Offline the gorgon

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Who's been a naughty boyo?
« on: February 08, 2015, 10:44:01 AM »
Robert Buckland has been accused of investing in a tax avoidance scheme.

 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31227870



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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2015, 03:03:35 PM »
I have a job to believe this. Surely a Q.C. would have had more sense. I feel confident it is just the news paper desperate for a story.
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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2015, 06:06:40 PM »
This is one of 4 similar investments Mr Buckland is recorded as making.

The main scandal here is this type of investment and it's tax concession. What was introduced as a tax break, designed to encourage fairly risky investment in the British film  making industry, has been hijacked as a tax free investment for people with ready cash to invest. Very little capital actually finds it's way into film making.

The revenue investigation is far from uncommon into this type of investment scheme. The vast majority come to nothing.

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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2015, 09:36:57 PM »
It not so much the (il)legality as the principle of avoiding tax, especially if you're an MP whose wages are paid by the taxpayer  >:(

He'd do well to remember that the people in Swindon whose taxes pay his wages earn an average of around £25,000, a figure which is dwarfed by his £67,000 salary + expenses + £70,000 for being solicitor general

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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 01:42:25 AM »
It not so much the (il)legality as the principle of avoiding tax, especially if you're an MP whose wages are paid by the taxpayer  >:(

He'd do well to remember that the people in Swindon whose taxes pay his wages earn an average of around £25,000, a figure which is dwarfed by his £67,000 salary + expenses + £70,000 for being solicitor general

Yes. Being 'within the rules' isn't necessarily the same as being considered to be acceptable by the electorate.  That said, I'm willing to bet that Parliament is rotten to the core with tax-avoiding MP's of all stripes.

I'm also willing to bet that the majority of Conservative voters would vote for a blue balloon on a stick, even if the balloon in question banks in the Cayman Islands :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2015, 10:43:18 AM »
Come to Gorsehill Geoff, there they would vote for a parrot if he had a red rosette on and if you remember annies record of her pay of over £60,000 and claiming 400 a month for food, furniture and even a carrier bag, who would vote for her and don't forget the po vote also.......

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2015, 12:54:20 PM »
Come to Gorsehill Geoff, there they would vote for a parrot if he had a red rosette on and if you remember annies record of her pay of over £60,000 and claiming 400 a month for food, furniture and even a carrier bag, who would vote for her and don't forget the po vote also.......

Tribal allegiances and core prejudices run deep :)

I have something of a problem this year. I like Bob Buckland but my personal regard for him doesn't outweigh my dislike of Tory policies and attitudes.  Anne Snelgrove is a better MP than Bob Buckland imho but both of them are, without a doubt imho, operating within the strictures and idocies of their respective party political machines.

What I'm struggling with at the moment is the way Labour are attacking Green policies which, to me at least, look almost exactly like the policies I think our country needs, and Labour should therefore be promoting themselves.   No chance that the Tories would use them because it won't put any extra money in their own accounts and run mostly contra to their new-fascist ideologies :)

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« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2015, 05:55:36 PM »
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Anne Snelgrove is a better MP than Bob Buckland imho

Really?

After some of the things you said about Anne...?! (she still blames ME for all the pashmina comments btw, though I think that was mainly Linda rather than you!)-  and the utterly dismissive lack of respect she subjected all of us involved with No2ID to...? I thought you were very much of the conclusion with the rest of us that her fatal flaw was to put her parliamentary career head, shoulders, waist-band, knees and ankles above the interests of her constituents in Swindon, and to assume that her election was a blank-cheque mandate to subsequently ignore us?

I've had call to deal with Robert on a number of issues on my behalf as well as of other constituents, from the technical college, to questions about marrying a foreign national and the changes to entry requirements: He turned up to the meeting about the Regents Circus subsidence and was obviously well briefed and very helpful to residents - in short, he does seem to actually bother about trying to help the people who voted for him.

Anne on the other hand seemed very much more aware of the value of a photo op, but I think its fair to say I was far from alone in thinking that, whatever else her skills (such as her widely publicised praise for Gordon Brown), dealing with or resolving the issues on her doorstep - such as farepack - were much more challenging to her.

Positive anecdotes about her predecessor Julia Drown seem legion... and I'm not alone having heard people say positive things about Roberts constituency work... To me its noteworthy that I've yet to hear a similar comment about Anne.

Has anyone else...?

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both of them are, without a doubt imho, operating within the strictures and idocies of their respective party political machines.

On that much we are agreed... But I'd far sooner have a repeat of Robert locally than a repeat of Anne. I honestly don't know of anyone else except the tribal box-tickers who think otherwise, to be honest

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What I'm struggling with at the moment is the way Labour are attacking Green policies which, to me at least, look almost exactly like the policies I think our country needs, and Labour should therefore be promoting themselves.

I'm intrigued by the idea that you appear to have moved quite that far to the left Geoff. What policies from the Green party do you agree with? Its just that having debated with you for... cough... what,  over ten years now, you'd seem to have some firmly held core beliefs which at first glance would be utterly incompatible with The Greens...?  ???
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it - [attributed to] Voltaire... 'Entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessita' - William of Occam.... 'You have a right to feel offended, but just cos you are offended doesn't mean you are right'

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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2015, 10:39:15 PM »
Green policies.
1. give everybody a wage of £72 a week, has been costed out at an annual charge of 284 billion pounds, where will they get the money from...
2. scrap the armd forces and have a home guard only.
3. have a complete open door to immigration from anywhere.
4. membership of either ISIS or Al Queda is not wrong.
Now Geoff, surprise me and say you think those are policies you can support.. if you do, then your are barking like them.... :WTF:

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2015, 07:47:41 AM »
Gotta say Geoff, the Greens have *some* sensible policies, but they are somewhat undermined by the ludicrous ones.

Almost no criteria for immigration is but one, and as Terry says, their concepts for the British military mean they virtually cease to exist at all.

They're hippies; lovely boys and girls, but with no understanding of the unpleasant reality of living in a world full of nasty, greedy people who want a slice of their cake as well as their own. Giving the Greens national power would have the likes of Putin dancing with joy.
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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2015, 08:59:46 AM »
Sorry, forgot the 5th one, and that is almost no control on drugs... barking...

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Re: Who's been a naughty boyo?
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2015, 11:39:04 AM »
Sorry, forgot the 5th one, and that is almost no control on drugs... barking...

You think we have control over drugs at the moment?

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2015, 11:41:55 AM »
No I don't, and the more it is treated as a crime the more it will be cut out, but they seem to think drugs are not the evil........and they can start by stopping the issue of the wean off drug methodine, and let the users go turkey as they say... that's more money we can spend on the poor who need it and not as a lifestyle....